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Joint Council/Park Meeting
March 29, 2016
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ASHLAND CITY COUNCIL & PARKS COMMISSION
JOINT STUDY SESSION
MINUTES
March 29, 2016
CALL TO ORDER
Park Commissioner Chair Mike Gardiner called the meeting to order at 5:30 p.m. in the Civic Center Council
Chambers, 1175 East Main Street.
City Council Present: Park Commissioners Present:
John Stromberg, Mayor Mike Gardiner - Chair
Rich Rosenthal Rick Landt
Stefani Seffinger Matt Miller
Carol Voisin Vanston Shaw
Greg Lemhouse Jim Lewis
Pam Marsh - arrived at 5:43 p.m.
PUBLIC INPUT
Kathryn Thalden/550 Ashland Loop Road/Invited the Council and Park Commission to a special presentation by
James Urban, FASLA. The Tree Commission was able, through the help of a special grant, to bring Mr. Urban here
to provide guidance and recommendations on the trees in Ashland. This is scheduled for Wednesday, April 6 from
2:00 to 5:00 p.m.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
1. Update on Swimming Pool
Park Director Michael Black presented the update on the research for a new swimming pool in our community. He
provided the following points of options that were previously discussed:
• McNeal Pavilion - Issues with Timing and Funding,
• Daniel Myer Pool Bubble - Issues with Funding and Partnership
• Daniel Myer Pool Winterization - This had been implemented and was used this past winter
• YMCA Partnership - Unable to meet on public amenity and permit process - until we can meet on major
items this is not a viable option
• Daniel Myer Pool Evaluation - Next step - creating year-round pool to accommodate all programs -
look at Daniel Myer Pool - get direction on if it is going to remain a priority to move forward with
evaluation
Councilor Marsh arrived at 5:43 p.m.
• YMCA Park - areas suitable for building were reviewed
• Hunter Park - amenities - current size of pool is not deep enough for sports and not deep enough for
diving. May need to partner with school district for additional parking but this has not been discussed
with schools district.
• Hunter Park Pool Potential - A new pool would have to be installed that would include eight lanes and
required depth. An attached recreational pool could be built and a seasonal cover provided for the entire
pool area. There is potential with this option in that it could work in the Daniel Myer Pool area without
encroaching on other property. The cost for this option is still being determined but an initial budget of
$2.5million could start the project.
Jocelyn Sanford/Voiced her support for a larger swimming pool that would accommodate swim clubs and
swimmers. She shared her experience as physical therapist and swimming coach and encouraged an opportunity for
physical education in swimming.
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Todd Lanary/11158 Corp Ranch RdNoiced his appreciation to the Park Commission and Park staff for their
support in moving forward with a new pool. He identified himself as the Ashland High School Swim coach and
shared the importance of this to his students and the community.
Mr. Black recommended a rectangular pool shape and noted that because of the size of the pool, additional parking
spaces would be required. He estimated the cost of additional spaces as $200,000 based on $4,000 per space. He
stressed that this is all variable as this has not been discussed with the school district or city planning department.
City Administrator Dave Kanner spoke on potential funding mechanisms that include the Capital Improvement Plan
and partnerships formed with those that use the pool. Mr. Black stated that to move forward with this option, cost
and space requirements would need to be determined and partners identified. He did not think that this would be
sustainable without the support of the school districts. He stated that he had some discussion with the school district
but not to the point of coming to an agreement.
Mr. Black confirmed that he was not aware of any other sites in the community that could accommodate this option.
He stated that the operational costs during the winter months is estimated at $6,000 - $8,000 and that these costs were
contracted out as there was no monies budgeted to operate during the winter. He understands that there are issues to
be dealt with, including condensation issues, and that staff has been in contact with other cities that have the same
type of pool and cover which they are reviewing.
It was suggested and agreed upon that Southern Oregon University (SOU) should be approached as a potential
partner.
Additional suggestion that there be discussion on recreational upgrades for all facilities and what it would take to
renovate other facilities. That a package project should be considered if a bond measure is put to the voters that
includes the pool and other costs associated with recreational facilities.
Staff received general agreement and support to move forward on the potential of a larger pool at Hunter Park. Staff
will begin meeting with potential partners and bring an update back to both bodies and the public.
2. Update on Performance Audit
Director of Parks Michael Black provided an update on the Performance Audit that has been ongoing with the Parks
Department. He explained that this began with interviews in February which included general observations of
conditions. The profile was received on March 21 and was reviewed and returned on March 29. He expects the Best
Practices portion of this audit on March 30 with a draft report due May 2. The final report is due May 9 and will then
be forwarded on to the Park Commission. Mr. Black stated that he will then bring the report to the council for their
information.
Mr. Black explained that finding comparators was difficult and provided a list of the cities that were used. The cities
varied in size but all had similar parks and recreation characteristics for comparison.
3. Update on PERS
City Administrator Dave Kanner presented the overview of the Public Employees Retirement System (PERS) which
explained the different categories that determine the PERS rate that the city pays. He provided a list of the current
rates and the new rates along with PERS rate changes impact comparison information for budget years into 2019.
Mr. Kanner explained that there are two different retirement plans, PERS - for those employed prior to 2003 and
Oregon Public Service Retirement Plan (OPSRP).
Mr. Kanner explained the PERS funding equation as the following: Benefits = Contributions + Earnings and that
every two years the PERS Board adjusts contributions so that, over time, those contributions will be sufficient to fund
the benefits earned, if earnings follow assumptions. He also provided information on how the system is funded and
the problems with the equation that PERS uses in comparison to how the system is funded. A chart was provided
that indicated expected benefit payments by status as of 12/31/2014
4. Food & Beverage Tax Proposal
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City Administrator Dave Kanner presented proposal for an ordinance regarding the Food & Beverage Tax that would
increase the share that goes to the Parks & Recreation from 20% to 25%. He explained that this proposal would
redirect a portion of the increase to the Parks Equipment Fund and to the pavement management program and take
the burden off the operating budget. He provided charts that indicated the Food & Beverage revenue compared to
the annual debt payments into 2023. He agreed that the council that is seated when the Wastewater Treatment Plant
debt service is paid full will need to make a decision on what to do the Food & Beverage Tax after 2022. That this
was not a decision to make today but to be made in the future.
Councilor Voisin left at 6:45 p.m.
Park Director Michael Black explained examples of what the current equipment fund provides for and that previous
to the current budget, the equipment fund was not funded and all costs were out of the capital improvement plan. He
stated that it was important to have a vehicle fund and that Parks has had to borrow from the city vehicle fund. He
felt that this option is a solution for a funding source for equipment.
Mr. Kanner understands that Food & Beverage Tax funding provides for purchasing property but that it also provides
for maintaining the properties that are purchased. That there is a progression on the acquisition of properties and this
is a logical option.
Comment was made that it was important to be transparent and clear on what the voters are being asked to pay for.
5. Recreation Division Move to the Grove
Park Superintendent Rachel Dials presented the move of the Recreation Division the Grove and provided pictures of
the new space.
Mr. Black explained that there has been some reorganization and that the office at the Lithia Park is still being used.
The intent was to bring staff closer to their supervisors.
6. Other Business from the Council and Parks Commission
Councilor Rosenthal requested that the council be copied on the Park Commission agenda electronically. He felt that
this would make it easier to keep the council updated.
Councilor Seffinger commented that park cleanup in other cities due to transients have resulted in increased cost.
Mr. Black did agree that there has been some impact due to use of facilities by transients but has not been tracked at
this time. He stated that staff will be keeping data that will enable tracking any future impacts.
Commissioner Shaw noted that the Parks Department has done a good job of educating citizens on use of Dog Park
in terms of dog waste. He suggested that this type of education be used in the further in the city area during the tourist
season.
Councilor Marsh noted that the Park staff has been meeting with individuals from the Shelter and will report back to
the council.
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 7:09 p.m.
Respectfully submitted
Barbara Christensen, City Recorder