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Budget Committee Meeting
DRAFT minutes
May 11,20156:00pm
Civic Center Council Chambers, 1175 East Main Street
CALL TO ORDER
The chair called the meeting to order at 6:00pm
ROLL CALL
Present:
David Runkel
John Stromberg
Greg Lemhouse
Rich Rosenthal Arrived at 7:15
Pam Marsh
Mike Morris
Carol Voisin
Stefani Seffinger
Mary Cody
Traci Darrow
Garrett Furuichi
William Gates
Pamela Lucas
Shaun Moran
Other Attendees:
Dave Kanner Budget Officer/City Administrator
Lee TunebergFinance Director
Kristy Blackman Administrative Assistant
APPROVAL OF MINUTES DATED:
None
PUBLIC INPUT
The following members of the public spoke during public input in support of Voisin’s add
package being the proposal for a Solar Energy Park.
JeffSharp, 533 Fordyce St, Ashland OR 97520–applauded the city and its staff
for the budget preparation and their hard work. Referred to the House Bill 3470
Carbon Tax Bill that would impact fuel costs and lent his support proposed solar
parkand believes that this would compliment the City Sub Station projects S3
&S4A that were a part of the 10 year electrical planning study.
JerryPaschen(on behalf of Syd Pashcen) representing Green Energy
Windpower, 865 Oak St, Ashland OR 97520 -asked for his question from last
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week to be answered –is the City of Ashland in a long term contract with
Bonneville Power?
Steve Maryanoff, 654 Oak St, Ashland OR 97520 -Asked how long the act of not
incentivizing energy savingshas been a part of Citypolicy. He also noted that he
is not satisfied with AFN.
Huelz Gutcheon , 2253 Hwy 99, Ashland OR 97520–believes new staff are
needed to facilitate the new solar park who are experienced with this project.
Chair recommendedmoving the Electric Department’s presentation to the beginning of
the group inorder to field questions for public interest.
ELECTRIC
MarkHolden & Dan Hendrix presentedthedepartment’s budget as presented in the
proposed BN2015-2017 Budget document.
Questions from the Committee
Stromberg
asked if any systems are stillusing aluminum conductors. Holdenanswered
some are. The biggest issue in the past has been copper. He went on to explain that
part of the 10 year study is to measure the carrying capacity andreceive
recommendation of whether theyshould upsize conductors.
Voisin
asked if she hadsolar on her roofand it was producing a lot of energy,can she
sell excess energy back to the city? Holdenanswered yesif she was on a net meter
anything that is not used and comes back and the utility and the City will pay for the first
1000kwhours at 11/4 times the retail rate. Beyond that your rate drops to what we pay
as a wholesale ratewhich is3/10s ofa cent.
Runkle
asked for clarification on smartgrid technology.Holden explained that meter
reading technologywas the forbearerand that in our technology everything is being
connected sowe can gather all that information and tune the systemto gain optimum
performance.He noted that in terms of the customer the individual can monitor in real
time however, this ability wasquitesome timeaway. He went on to explain that progress
stopped at AMR and now there is a new technology called AMI. Runkel asked what the
timeline was. Holden answered thiswill beapproachedin this next biennium.
Morris
asked if it is the City’sgoal to go to demand based structure. Holden answered
yesthey wouldwhenthey have the meters to supportthat.Morris asked whenpeak
demandsoccur. Holden answered from 7am–8am and 6pm –7pm.
Seffinger
asked if there were any plans to extend underground cables. Holden
answered new construction iscommonly undergroundand they haveno plans to replace
overheads with these.
Morris
referred to 3-138 and asked if those Materials and Serviceswerecharges.
Holden answered they are transmissions. Morris referredto pg4-59and asked what the
donationsare. Tuneberg explainedthis relates to the heat program.
Stromberg
asked how you donate to thatprogram. BrynMorrisonanswered the heat
program is a onetime $100 donation.
Runkel
asked if the solar park program had beenpresented to their department. Holden
answeredno. Runkel asked what their reaction is to the concept. Holden responded it is
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hard to say at this point andnoted they area distribution, nota supply company and as
long as it’s low cost and green, theyare okay with it.
Gates
asked if the City hasrenewable energy standards. Holden answerednot that he
isawareand that theirs isconsidered 87%which is84% hydro 3% wind.
Voisin
asked what the prediction of BPA in the ratesis.Holden explained that this is a
controversial subject, BPA are being hit hard by customers complaining about rate
increases. Voisin asked if they are at competition with naturalgas. Holden responded
yes.
IT
Mike Holden & Dan Hendrix presentedthedepartment’s budget as presented in the
proposed BN2015-2017 Budget document.
Questions from the Committee
Runkel
asked what Holdenfeels is the most pressing issue. Holden responded the
network then voicemail.
Furuichi
asked for clarification of revenues on pg3-24 for BN2015-2017 under Charges
for Servicestotaling $6.9 millionand asked if revenues flow through the
telecommunications fund on pg 4-63.Tuneberg noted that these are combined for
telecommunications and IT. (Inaudible)
Kanner
pointed out that the $400,000 isan interfund loan from the reserve fund for next
phase of AFN business plan and this is part of the capital outlay.
Seffinger
asked if thenew voicemailwouldincludevoicemail for councilors. Hendrix
answered the capability would be there.
IT TELECOMMUNICATIONS
Mike Holden & Dan Hendrix presented thedepartment’s budget as presented in the
proposed BN2015-2017 Budget document.
Questions from the Committee
Moran
referred to pg4-64 under telecommunicationsfund charge for service of $4.3
million an increase of 11% and asked for justification.Holden responded as shown in the
business plan, expected revenuewillincrease because of;
Better product after upgrade
Cost structure is better and more competitive
Better customer service
Moran
asked how they plan to penetrate theremaining untapped market in Ashland.
Holden answeredby having abetter cost structure and offering incentives. Stromberg
addedthere is a turn over incustomer base all the time and new customers come to the
City for utilities thereforethey can sign up for AFN.
Marsh
noted there are twoprojectsin the strategic plan and asked if this budget
accommodates those. Holden responded no,this is just the internet project. Marsh
asked how the fund transfer has gone from $250,000 to $400,000. Holden explained that
is costs $250,000 for the technology and $150,000 in operational expensesand they will
have overlapping costs as theyswitch providers. Marsh asked what the total cost of the
project is. Holden replied $400,000 and noted this was talked about in the strategic plan.
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Gates
asked what theadvantage is for customers. Holden respondedbetter service for
the customersand less bottlenecks streaming quality.
Moran
asked how longAFN has been running and if they have made a profit. Kanner
responded hadthey not been paying$1.2 million a year indebt servicethey would have
and explained the telecommunications fund pays $400,000 of the debt whilethe
remainderis spread amongstthe electric, general, water and wastewater funds and
won’t be paid off till 2024. Kanner addedhe believes this should be kept going and kept
competitive.
Stromberg
noted the roll outof AFNwas internally funded and ran up and internal debt
of $15.5 million and as a result the City had to issue bonds which the city must pay off
regardless.
Morris
asked how they will guarantee the quality of service will stay the same. Holden
answered that they employ an engineer to come once a year and tune the service.
Seffinger
wondered if Ashland residents are aware that by signing up with AFN they are
helping with the debt service. Holden noted that in the marketing campaigns staying
local is mentioned.
Stromberg
noted he has been periodically proposing this.
CITY RECORDER
Barbara Christensen presented the department’s budget as presented in the proposed
BN2015-2017 Budget document.
Christensen thanked staff and thecommitteefor their support.
Questions from the Committee
Furuichi asked if you can you legally charge 50¢per merchant transaction. Christensen
responded, by law as a municipal government theycannot and if theydid they would
have to charge everyone the same regardless of payment type. Furuichi then asked
what the discount rate is for merchant services. Christensen responded about 3.5%
ADMINISTRATION
Dave Kanner presented the department’s budget as presented in the proposed BN2015-
2017 Budget document.
Kanner acknowledged members of the administrationteam who were present being,
DavidLohman/City Attorney, Tina Grey/HR Manager, Ann Seltzer/Management Analyst,
Adam Hanks/Management Analyst,VanessaBidwell/Court Clerkand Judge Pam
Turner.
Questions from the Committee
Moran
askedwhat the increase in fringe benefits was.Kannerrespondedthe biggest
increase isinHealth Benefitscosts. The City budgeted for a 5% increase but will not
take that if the plan continues to do well. Kanner explained the employee contribution
aspect of the plan and noted that the 5% paid by employees of the premium is
contractual.
Marsh
asked for clarification of contractual services. Kanner noted budget to budget
there is a slight decrease and explained this is the cost of thirdparty administrative
servicesand stop lossinsurance. He stated he is unsure why they only budgeted
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$282,000 in the first BN because the actual cost was considerably higher.He noted that
he is cautiously optimistic that the actual cost will be lower.
Furuichi
referred to bottom of page 3-16 –premiums claims and judgments and asked if
this will be about the same each year. Kanner answered this will be slightly higher.
COURTS
Judge Pamela Turnerpresented the department’s budget as presented in the proposed
BN2015-2017 Budget document.
Turner explained that her remarks are limited to the code and gave the committee a
hand out of the Oregon Code of Judicial conduct.
Questions from the Committee
Marsh
asked why there weremore cases completed thanfiled in 2014.Vanessa Bidwell
answeredthis is a result of reconcilingold cases.
Seffinger
noted that fees are down in 2015and asked if it is feasible to continue
operating.Judge Turner believes that the court runs on a thinbudget and that her staff
work hard and are needed.
Cody
noted that most of the cases are municipalcode violationsand asked what kind of
cases the courtseesthe most of. Turner notedwhilepeople can come into the court; the
majority of cases arehandled at the counter.
FIRE
John Karns,Terry Eubanks,Chris Chambers,Margueritte Hickman&Greg Case with
the aid of a slideshow, presented their department’s budget as presented in the
proposed BN2015-2017 Budget document.
Questions from the Committee
Stromberg
noted employees overlappingin responsibility coupled with demands for
transport increasingmeans a need to look at fundamentalpolicydecisions. He believes
the budget hasn’t been able to determine needs because of this.
Seffinger
asked about slip and fall assessments and what this means for keeping
seniors in the home. Karns responded by outliningthe slip and fall programexplaining
that they offer clients home assessments after a slip and fall.
Morris
asked why responsetimeshavedeclined.Karns answered staffing can
contribute to this but statisticscan be skewed with varying situations however,for the
most part they are steady.
Rosenthal
asked what would happen if the city chosetowithdraw from transport.Karns
noted that staffing targets couldbe loweredand that some revenue would be lost.
Rosenthal asked in regard to the add packages that were not approved, which would be
Karn’s most important one. Karnsanswered staffing.
Runkel
asked what overtimecosts were and if theywere under control. Karns answered
that they are non discretionary. Runkel asked if there was a savings cost in overtime if
they added a new position. Karns answered this would be an additional position on a
shift.
Moran
asked aboutthe15%increase in chargesfor service. Karns noted it is
ambulancerevenueand explained that the County dictates the ratesand they would be
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asking for a $100 increase.He saidthe last timethey did thisit netted $19 per callbut
most of the ambulancerevenueis paid by private insurance.
Voisin
asked how servicesbalance betweenthe cities. Karnsanswered that fire and
rescue are fairly even.
Stromberg
talked to overtime and dual mission of medicaltransport and firefighting. He
stated it seems intuitiveif the City wereable to get out of that business and have a
provider take over for that, we would be more effective and efficient in firefighting as well
as benefit from reduced overtime. Karns agreed.
Kanner
noted that ambulance transport is a net revenue generator and if it went away
the Citywould need to fill that gap with another service.
Stromberg
understands but feels that quality of staff time is more important. Believes
there istoo much overtime.
Marsh
askedwhat the impact would be onthe community.Karns answered the City
provides excellent transport serviceandthe event of thisbeing dissolvedthere would be
longer wait timesdue toless ambulance inventory.
Voisin
asked for gross revenue of the ambulances. Kanner responded $250,000to $
300,000a year.
Darrow
asked if they have broken out the diversions. Karns said while he can’t quote
the figures accurately it is cyclic, several daily and that in the 2013 calendar year to 2014
it almost almost tripled. Darrowstated she agrees with Stromberg in regard to looking at
Ashland Community Hospitalsand how staffing levels effect emergency services
transport.
Seffinger
asked if the ambulance services would be out of Medford or Ashland. Karns
answered theywould be stagedin Ashland.Seffinger asked if the limited servicescould
result in fatalities.Karns responded there could be some delays. Seffinger asked if the
department would beinvolved in the visitor center. Karns answeredit depends on the
severity of the call. Seffinger asked if all firefighters aretrained as paramedics. Karns
responded they are.
Gates referred to pg
3-72 and noted increasesin request for training. Karns explained
this is a goal to provide oneweek long trainingeventfor line personneland multiple
trainingsfor officers.Gates asked with regard tocall loadincrease, what is the increase
and what are the nature of these calls. Karns answered they generate around 3,600
calls a year and approx 70% are strictly EMS in nature. Gates asked howadditional
responsibilities inthe interface mitigation haveaffected the manning and the cost of the
department. Chambers responded that it doesn’t impact the line personnel.
Voisin
asked Karns if it concerns him that hisstaff hasdualresponsibilities. Karns
responded no, it is very common across the country and at entry level testing the City
won’t even accept candidates unless they are certified medics.
Stromberg
asked when is it that youdecide the model being usedisn’t a viable model.
Karnssuggested that thismight bea policy decision to be discussed separately.
Runkel
asked where the extra $1million came from. Chambers explained $2.16million
came from a joint grant from the Forest Service and the USDA NaturalResource
Conservation Service and an additional $1million came from the hazardous fuels budget
in the Forest Service as a result of lobbying.
ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES
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Lee Tuneberg, Administrative Services & Finance Director presented the department’s
budget as presentedin the proposed BN2015-2017 Budget document.
Questions from the Committee
None
Tuneberg thanked staff and the committee for their support.
A question was submitted by Elizabeth Paschenduring the meeting and it was explained
that someone would contact her with an answer. Her question was “Is there a
commitment in council to achieve an increasing proportion of the electric power budget
from nature’s gift of wind?”
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 9:17pm
Respectfully submitted
Kristy Blackman
Administrative Assistant
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