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ASHLAND HISTORIC COMMISSION
ELECTRONIC MEETING
Meeting Minutes
April 6, 2022
Community Development/Engineering Services Building –Electronic Meeting
CALL TO ORDER:
Hovenkampcalled the electronic meeting to order at6:00pm.
Commissioners Present:Council Liaison:
ShostromShaun Moran
WhitfordStaff Present:
EmeryBrandon Goldman; PlanningManager
HovenkampRegan Trapp; Permit Technician II
Swink
Von Chamier
Commissioners Absent:Skibby
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Shostrom/Emery m/sto approve minutesforMarch 2,2022.Voice vote. ALL AYES.Motion passed.
PUBLIC FORUM:
Elk’s building mural project -Peter Finkle and John Pugh
John Pugh(local muralist)presented hisideasregarding the muralto the Commission. John showed the Commission
some of his work that he has done in many places. He likes to create illusions with his art to create the human
experience. Theproposalencompasses the original Chautauqua Dome, paintedblue with Native American vibe and
the idea that Ashland represents a spiritual energy. The name of the painting is called “Enchantment” which depicts
and tells the story of Ashland. There is no time frame on this projectyet becausehe wants to make sure that everyone
is on the same pageand approves of the design. He will be working with the Elks to raise money for the entire project.
Commission feedback:
This is creating interest with the 3D design and allows it to feel more real.
Loves the whimsical way of the design on one of the most historic buildings in Ashland.
Work is spectacular and will be a nice addition to downtown. Wonderful to have indigenous representation.
This type of mural will stand out and looks very provocative and fun.
Will dominate the whole historic street which could be controversial in a negative way.
The mural will engage people to ask questions about the community and invite visitors to see what Ashland
has to offer.
COUNCIL LIAISON REPORT:
Councilor Moran gave the liaison report. Items discussed were:
New City Manager Joe Lessard -Making necessarypersonnelhires and dealing with fiscal issues.
New Assistant City Manager Sabrina Cotta welcomed.
Departments within the general fund will have to cut 5-10%.
Council working with SOU on community survey regarding City services.
PLANNING ACTION REVIEW
PLANNINGACTION:PA-T2-2022-00037
SUBJECTPROPERTY:165WaterStreet,160HelmanStreetand95VanNess
(cornerofVanNess&WaterStreets)
APPLICANT:RoguePlanning&DevelopmentServices,LLC,agentfor
OWNERS:MagnoliaInvestmentGroup,LLCandGilLivni
DESCRIPTION:Arequestforaneight-lotcommercialsubdivisiontoconstructaphasedmixed-usedevelopmentfor
thethreepropertiesatthecornerofVanNessandWaterStreetsincluding95VanNessStreet,165WaterStreetand
160HelmanStreet.Theapplicant’sPhaseIrequestsSiteDesignReviewapprovalforfivemixed-usebuildings
consistingoftwogroundfloorcommercialspaceswithtworesidentialunitsaboveineachbuilding,aswellas
associatedsurfaceparking,utilityinfrastructureandstreetimprovements.Theremainingthreebuildingsiteswouldbe
developedinalaterphase.TheapplicationalsoincludesarequestforaPhysical&Environmental(P&E)Constraints
ReviewPermitbecausetheproposalincludesdevelopmentonsevereconstraintslandswithslopesgreaterthan35
percentandonfloodplaincorridorlands;arequestforanExceptiontotheDevelopmentStandardsforHillsideLands;
arequestforaTreeRemovalPermittoremove20treesonthesubjectpropertiesandwithintheadjacentrights-of-
way;arequestforanExceptiontotheSiteDevelopmentandDesignStandardstoallow3,087squarefeetofplaza
spacewherethestandardsrequire5,624squarefeet;andarequestforanExceptiontoStreetStandardstoallow
parkingbayswithstreettreesinbump-outsalongVanNessAvenueratherthanstandardparkrowplantingstrips.
COMPREHENSIVEPLANDESIGNATION:Employment;ZONING:E-1;ASSESSOR’SMAP:391E04CC;TAX
LOTS#:2000,2100&7100
Hovenkamp disclosed that she had ex-parte contact with Mr. Brouillard, a neighbor who submitted his comments to
the Commission via email. Hovenkampexpressed that this would have no impact on her decision moving forward.
Von Chamier recused herself from the meeting as she is working with the applicants on this project.
Severson gave the updated staff report for PA-T1-2022-00037.These include the latest revisions submitted to
Planning.
Hovenkamp opened the public hearing to the applicants.
Applicants present:
Amy Gunter –Rogue Planning and Development
Gil Livni –Owner
Amy Gunter addressed the Commission regarding the revisions since the last meeting. She stated that this is an
eight-lotsubdivision reduced to six lots with eight condo buildings. A solar setback waiver is no longer required, and
lot consolidation eliminates frontage issue for previously proposed lot 5. Detail site design review plaza area
exceeds minimum area and no longer seeks an exception. Looking into public alley to possibly be named “factory
alley.”
See presentation –Attachment A
The Commission had comments and questions for the applicant’s regarding the following:
How much lower overall can the 3-storybuilding be?
o Gunter-Height will be reduced by 2 ft. all buildings along Helman average 36.5 –38.5 ft tall. They
could bring the decks in a bit to create less massing.
How do we understand transition zone compliance? Does one take precedence over the other?
o Severson-Transition between R3 and Employment zoningis findinga balance between the two
and still finding ways to respond to the transition while allowing development to happen.
There is nothing in the code to help out the residences on the west side regarding solar.
Public Testimony and commentssubmitted:
Eric Bonetti–Ashland resident(see attached photos–Attachment B)Ownsadjacent property at 105 Water Street.
Mr. Bonetti presented photos of the area and spoke about how much he enjoys the Railroad District. He said that this
project is a good opportunity to clean up the area, bring jobs and new residents to the area.He spoke about several
buildings in the area that are similar in detailing and materialsand feels the designs submitted are appropriate for the
area.
Cat Gould –See comment attached(Attachment C)
Mark Brouillard –See comment attached (Attachment D)
Amy Gunter stated that It’s critical that property owners pay attention to what they are buying into when they purchase
properties near transitionalzones.
Hovenkamp opened to the Commission to comments.
The Commission deliberatedthe following before rendering their decision:
The business of the City is to create tax lots and to make revenue –In that way, the rules are stacked against
the residents and in favor of the developer. Incongruity in building height between commercial and residential
zones.
The transitionalzone was added to realize that there does need to be a balance between the two zones. How
can you adjust to make it more compatible?
Balancing design standards and zoning standards.
Commission should be forthright and compelling about their recommendations.
Mostbuildings in the area stand alone and these proposed buildings stand together and will look like three
big apartment buildings.
Do the changes that the applicant made conform to the recommendations?
Shostrom/Whitford m/s to deny PA-T1-2022-00037until recommendations below have been met. Voice vote.
ALL AYES. Motion passed.
Recommendation:
The HistoricCommissionwould like to thank the applicants for the proposed building design modifications since the
Commission reviewed the project last month. The Commission finds that most of the incremental changes are effective in that
they address some of the Commission’s concerns regarding the building façades and pedestrian amenities, but these revisions
fall short in focusing on the major issues identified in the March meeting, which had to do with the height, scale, and massing
of the buildings as they relate to the Historic District Design Standards (AMC 18.4.2.050.B.2-B.4.)
This massive development of eight nearly identical “cookie cutter” designs has no precedent in Ashland or its historic districts.
The Commission cannot support approval of a project that has demonstrated such disregard in their attempt to comply with
our historic standards and the scale of our city andneighborhoods. In particular, the three buildings facing Helman Street with
a height of up to 40 feet and three stories will overwhelm the mostly single-story historic residences across the street.
These proposed buildings fail to achieve an appropriate scale and façade compatibility to the adjacent historic streetscape.
Additionally, the zero setback to the sidewalk exacerbates the building mass and scale that will overwhelm the adjacent
pedestrian traffic. By comparison, the Plaza Inn & Suites hotel on the same side of Helman Street, nearer to downtown, has
15-to 20-foot setbacks and is only two-stories in height.
In the Historic Commission’s view, the building architecture and landscape design on this project is very attractive and high
quality, but, the buildings are just not compatible with the scale of the historic district residences in the impact area, across
Helman Street. For these reasons, the Commission cannot support moving this application forward.
With that in mind the Historic Commission voted unanimously to recommend that the project be denied.
PLANNING ACTION:PA-T1-2022-00179
SUBJECT PROPERTY:247 Seventh Street
OWNER:Bar-Gem Vineyards, LLC
APPLICANT:Rogue Planning & Development Services, LLC
DESCRIPTION:A request for a Conditional Use Permit to expand an existing non-conforming structure by
approximately 30 square feet. The existing building was constructed prior to current regulations and encroaches into
a six-foot side yard setback. In the area of this encroachment there is a small bathroom, and the applicant is requesting
to enlarge it to increase the floor area and headroom. The proposed addition is approximately 29.75 square feet, of
which approximately 19.2 square feet encroach into the setback.COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION: Low-
Density Multi-Family Residential; ZONING: R-2; MAP: 39 1E 09BA; TAX LOT #: 2800
There was no conflict of interest or ex-parte contact indicated by the Commission.
Seversongave the staff report for PA-T1-2022-00179
Hovenkamp opened the public hearing to the applicants.
Applicants present:
Amy Gunter –Rogue Planning and Development
Jean and John MacConaghy –Owners
Carlos Delgado -Architect
Amy Gunter addressed the Commission regarding the project.
See presentation -Attachment E
There were no questions from the Commission.
Whitford/Swink m/s to approve PA-T1-2022-00179as submitted. Voice vote. ALL AYES. Motion passed.
PRE –APP REVIEW
160 Lithia Way:Pre-application submittal
See presentation -Attachment F
Applicants present:
Raymond Kistler –KSW Architects
Tom Lamore –KSW Architects
Amy Gunter –Rogue Planning and Development
Guidance to applicants:
Appreciate the idea of eliminating the juliet balconies.
Good design
There is a hole in that side of thestreetthat needs to be filled and it works well with the neighborhood.
485 A Street:Pre-application submittal
Applicantspresent:
Steve Hoxmeier -Applicant and Owner
Steve Hoxmeierspoke about his project. He stated that he would be extending towards A’ Streetusing the same
materials and design to match with the building. There will be more focus on the commercial frontage of the building.
Goldman noted that the drawings would need to be submitted by a design professional once a formal planning
application is submitted.
Guidance to applicant:
Scaled drawings showing windows on lower level and detail in the gable ends.
More detailed drawings submitted by a design professional.
Show on site plan what the plan for phase 3 would be.
Show existingand changes inelevation.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Historic Preservation Week –PastForward
th
Historic Preservation Awards scheduled for Tues, May 17@12:30
2022 nominations -Decide on winners
HPW Addition Winner:542 Siskiyou
Commissioner assigned:Whitford
HPW Addition Winner: 73 Pine
Commissioner assigned:Shostrom
HPW MU-Commercial Winner:185-199 Lithia Way
Commissioner assigned:Von Chamier
HPW Individual Winner: 175 Church
Commissioner assigned:Swink
HPW Civic Winner: MAPS Project
Commissioner assigned:Hovenkamp
Wildfire Mitigation Construction Standards (R327.4)
Goldman briefly discussed the standards with the Commission to make sure that they were familiar with it. He went
on to say that if there were any questions of the Commission regarding these standards that he would direct them to
the City of Ashland building official.
ADJOURNMENT
Next meeting is scheduled forMay 4,2022,at6:00pmvia Zoom.
There being no other items to discuss, the meeting adjournedat9:30pm
Respectfully submitted by Regan Trapp
Eight lot subdivision reduced to six lots with eight condominium buildingsLot consolidation eliminates frontage issue for previously proposed Lot 5Solar Setback Waivers no longer requiredDetail
Site Design Review Plaza Area exceeds minimum areaHistoric District Design Compliance and Modifications
•••••
TO PROPOSAL
OVERALL MODIFICATIONS
Eric Bonetti Public Comment – Historic Commission 4/6/2022
Photos presented during oral testimony:
Eric Bonetti Public Comment – Historic Commission 4/6/2022
Photos presented during oral testimony
Eric Bonetti Public Comment – Historic Commission 4/6/2022
Photos presented during oral testimony
Eric Bonetti Public Comment – Historic Commission 4/6/2022
Photos presented during oral testimony
Eric Bonetti Public Comment – Historic Commission 4/6/2022
Photos presented during oral testimony
Eric Bonetti Public Comment – Historic Commission 4/6/2022
Photos presented during oral testimony
Eric Bonetti Public Comment – Historic Commission 4/6/2022
Photos presented during oral testimony
Eric Bonetti Public Comment – Historic Commission 4/6/2022
Photos presented during oral testimony
Eric Bonetti Public Comment – Historic Commission 4/6/2022
Photos presented during oral testimony
Attachment B
From:Cat gould
To:Planning Commission - Public Testimony
Subject:4/12/22 PC hearing testimony
Date:Monday, April 04, 2022 3:51:21 PM
\[EXTERNAL SENDER\]
Dear commissioners,
I live very close to this proposed development and feel for the following reasons it is not a
good fit for our neighbourhood in the Skidmore historic district, nor responsible
development for Ashland as a whole. The design has not made any attempt to blend into
the historic nature of our modest neighbourhood. Nor takes into account the necessity to
curtail energy consumption in every household.
PLANNING ACTION: PA-T2-2022-00037
SUBJECT PROPERTY:165 Water Street, 160 Helman Street and 95 Van Ness (corner of
Van Ness &
Water Streets)
Sincerely,
Cat Gould
114 Van Ness Ave, Ashland, OR 97520
Sustainability and Affordability
Ashland does not need more unaffordable housing that demands huge energy consumption
to keep cool in summer and warm in winter due to the high ceilings and exposure. What are
the projected energy costs to keep these large high ceilinged apartments comfortable?
Ashland needs housing for lower income workers that we rely on to work in our
restaurants/schools/and retail stores. Many employees of the Ashland City administration
can't even afford to live here.
Energy costs are skyrocketing and this is not just pocket book costs, it is costs paid out in
climate chaos on the poorest of the world who do not have the freedom to simply pay more
to live elsewhere. It is irresponsible to be building anything less than energy efficient
Energy consumption is reduced by 1% for each 10 cm of ceiling height reduction.
housing.
Parking
Most houses in the area already use street parking which is strained during high season,
this can not have been assessed by the traffic analysis due to lack of high season for the
past 2 years.
Flood Plain
While we are in a drought cycle now we all know that this will be over at some point and the
unpredictable natureof climate chaos that we have unalterably entered will continue. I have
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Attachment B
to wonder why Gil Livni, who only recently lost his entire development to climate chaos and
had to completely rebuild after the Almeda fire, would once again throw his buildings in the
path of zoned "extreme or severe risk" of flooding.
This land has Severe Constraints meaning "development of this land is discouraged"
Application itself explains "the embankment was likely first created by Ashland Creek" .
Shading caused by mass of structure on neighborhood and traffic
The following image was taken off google earth and you can see where the 28 foot pole
reaches (yellow). At a proposed average height of 40 feet the development will be
approximately 40% taller than the existing pole. I have conservatively projected in orange
the extent of the shadow that will be cast from this building on the homes and intersection.
This intersection and the steep downhill slope of Van Ness Ave to Water st is in heavy use
throughout the year by commuters, school traffic, recology vehicles, delivery trucks and the
official bike corridor from the greenway and will be extremely icy throughout winter due to
this shading from the building.
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Attachment A
From:City of Ashland, Oregon
To:planning;Regan Trapp
Subject:Historic Commission Contact Form Submitted
Date:Monday, April 04, 2022 6:31:16 AM
\[EXTERNAL SENDER\]
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Full Name: Mark Brouillard
Phone:206 661 7085
Email:Mtbrouillard@msn.com
Subject:PA-T2-2022--00037
Message:To whom it may concern: I am unable to be at this week's meeting but wanted
to follow-up from the last meeting. First, as a point of reference we have heard about the
photo showing Ashland Iron Works and its supposed 40 foot height. That height was on
the Water Strret frontage. Second, I implore you to revisit the Helman Street side. Stand
in front of 173 Helman. Look at the subject property and notice a lamp post next to the
gate. The propsed Buildings would be 8+ feet taller than that. Third, it seems like a
rather flippant response to the Commisiins asking for different heights on the Helman
Street side. Two deck/balcony changes and that is considered an elevation change?
Fourth, this project still doesn't meet the AMC criteria I laid out in the last meeting.
Setbacks, scale, massing, height are not even close to the homes in the on or across the
street. Fifth, buildings are.still cookie cutter and don't follow the AMC which states
different buildings and residential accommodation (have AMC at home, currently on an
airplane). All we are asking for is something reasonable on the Helman Street side.
Buildings taller than a telephone poll is not reasonable. No setbacks; again revisit the site
and look at it from the sidewalk on the east side of Helman. Walk from Central towards
Van Ness and invision a monolithic building with zero setback. It will block the openess
of the street and any view that there once was. Doesn't seem like any equity; social,
mental health, economic, or justice. This is a David versus Goliath moment that you as
the historic commission have a lot of say in. Respectfully, Mark and Donna Brouillard
159 Helman Street
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