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CALL TO ORDER:
Graf called the meeting to order at 6:02 p.m.
Commissioners Present: Bruce Borgerson, Kat Smith, Corinne Vièville, Sue Newberry, David Young, Joe Graf
Commissioners Absent: None
Council Liaison Present: Mike Morris
SOU Liaison Absent: Fred Creek
Staff Present: Scott Fleury, Taina Glick
ANNOUNCEMENTS
None
CONSENT AGENDA
Approval of Minutes: March 15, 2018
Commissioners Young and Smith m/s to approve minutes as amended.
All ayes. Minutes approved.
PUBLIC FORUM
Heulz Gutcheon 2253 Highway 99
Gutcheon believed that an estimate of greenhouse gas production should be provided for all projects. He discussed
the dangers of walking and biking in town and indicated that he had provided Paula Brown a list of areas he believed
are potential hazards. He restated his desire for a 20mph speed limit throughout town and that all accidents involving
autos and pedestrians should be the fault of the driver. He believed that sharrows do harm rather than good and that
drivers throw things at cyclists and that a cyclist’s best bet is to ride on the sidewalk.
Commissioner Young thanked Gutcheon for caring and showing up.
NEW BUSINESS
Draft ordinance relating to vehicles for hire
Fleury presented Katrina Brown, Assistant City Attorney and Dave Lohman, City Attorney to speak regarding this topic.
Lohman introduced Brown to the commissioners and explained her role in developing the draft ordinance that would
allow transportation network companies (TNC) to operate in Ashland. He apologized for the oversight of not bringing
the proposed ordinance to the Transportation Commission initially. Lohman described the difficulties Portland, Eugene,
and Roseburg have had deciding to allow or not allow TNCs. Lohman questioned if Ashland wanted to allow TNCs at
all costs, or should the costs of the service be more clearly defined. Brown indicated that the proposed ordinance
closely mimics Medford’s ordinance. She provided an email response from a representative of Uber regarding the
proposed ordinance. The email is attached to these minutes. The proposed ordinance has been submitted to Lyft but
Brown has not yet spoken with them. Brown spoke of the TNCs strong opposition to police provided background checks
for drivers.
Young felt the issue is complex and has had success utilizing TNCs as a consumer. Young would like to ensure 100%
compliance with business licensing but does not feel that the burden of policing them should be on the City and
suggested a county-wide business license. Young opined that introduction of TNCs at this time does not coincide well
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with the Transit Feasibility Study. Brown stated studies exist that suggest the use of public transportation goes down
once a community allows TNCs.
Vièville questioned the difference in parameters between police checks and those performed by the TNC’s third-party
provider and wondered why TNC’s will not utilize police background checks. She preferred the phrase “reasonable
accommodation” be removed from the proposed ordinance due to redundancy. Vièville informed commissioners of
lawsuits filed against Uber and Lyft regarding discrimination against guide dog utilizing riders with drivers claiming
canine allergies and feeling that qualified as “reasonable accommodation.” Brown spoke to Vièville’s question regarding
police background checks by citing the existing ordinance which allows for no conviction of any crimes of moral
turpitude or dishonesty as well as an unlimited look-back period whereas the TNC model allows a look-back period of
only 7 years from date of conviction. The proposed ordinance loosens the existing regulation regarding allowed drivers.
Brown’s proposed ordinance increases the look-back to 10 years and is more specific regarding sex offenders.
Convicted sex offenders are disallowed from driving under Uber’s contract. Lohman described Uber’s position that
background testing other than their existing model is a reason to choose not to serve an area. Portland was successful
in getting a 10-year lookback for background checks if allowing the third-party organization utilized by Uber. Lohman
stated that Police run background checks utilize fingerprinting, but was unsure what method of identification was used
by the third-party providers. Vièville wondered why we would consider loosening our guidelines to attract TNCs if
fingerprint-based background checks already work for taxi drivers. Newberry inquired about the TNC reasoning for not
allowing police-run background checks: expense, time to receive results, other reason? Brown indicated that the TNCs
have complained such background checks substantially delay the issuance of a license to operate as a driver. Brown
indicated that Eugene is proposing to issue temporary licenses to drivers based on a TNC’s background check while
still utilizing police background checks before issuing the final license.
Newberry inquired if Salem adjusted its ordinance when leadership changed. Brown responded yes and added that
Salem’s present ordinance looks very similar to Medford’s. Newberry supported Vieville’s suggestion to remove the
phrase “reasonable accommodation.” Lohman interjected that wheelchair access service is a topic that Uber preferred
be excluded from any ordinance. Rather the TNCs would like to negotiate requirements for such service outside of an
ordinance. Newberry wondered if other communities have had problems with TNCs related to service animals and
would like to see the ordinance more strongly worded.
Newberry shared Young’s concern about the impact of TNCs on transit in small communities. She understands that
there are hilly areas and we need to keep a balance between helping those who could use the convenience of TNCs
and existing transit infrastructure. She feels that the inclusion of TNCs should be on our terms.
Borgerson does not feel that approval of TNCs is urgent and agreed TNCs will impact transit, specifically climate
change and greenhouse gas emissions. He would like to see a comparison of climate change impact between TNCs
and expanded transit in similarly sized communities. Borgerson believed that TNCs view our area as a regional entity,
not a collection of small municipalities and wondered if the time has come to meet with other local municipalities to
discuss TNC impact. Lohman informed commissioners that Uber met with only one local municipality which seems to
be their standard procedure. Vièville asked if Central Point allows TNCs. Brown replied that CP chose not to regulate
TNCs, as it was not regulating taxicabs. Young interjected his believe that Phoenix and Talent are the same as Central
Point. Brown added that Jacksonville has chosen not to regulate vehicles for hire services at this time. Lohman added
that the Portland area responded similarly, with Portland having the ordinance and the other regional municipalities
relying on Portland to be the regulator. Brown added that when discussing Portland’s TNC model, Uber stated it is not
willing to duplicate that model elsewhere.
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Graf felt that vehicle inspections are important and the requirement should not be eliminated. He felt that exclusion of
registered sex offenders as drivers is important. Graf believed that background checks show local, state, and national
criminal history, but questioned the feasibility of international criminal history for immigrants? Brown believed that
international criminal histories would be difficult to obtain, even if the police were conducting the background check.
Graf questioned the ability to revoke the license of a driver who becomes a criminal after approval. Graf asked about
omission of a word in section H. Brown responded that the word “application” was missing. Under Operational
requirements: maintain accurate records, Graf wondered about inclusion of zip codes for pick up and drop off when
rides stay in the same zip code, but wondered about a better way to track where rides originate and end. Brown asked
for any suggestions from the commission. Lohman indicated that Portland rides are GIS located.
Young sought to clarify his position. While agreeing that TNCs could fill a void in our transit system, he felt that there
should be reasonable requirements. He wondered about a termination clause in case TNCs working in the city have
a negative impact? Brown responded that ordinances can be amended or repealed, if necessary. Lohman indicated
that Portland has a clause in its ordinance that required it to evaluate services after a determined amount of time.
Young supported waiving the business license fee for disabled drivers and electric vehicle drivers. Young stated his
understanding that the ordinance would not preclude a local TNC from starting up. Lohman cited an example of private
entity service in Austin, TX that started due to the inability of the city and the TNCs to reach an agreement on
background checks, but that service was undermined when the TNCs were able to get the Texas legislature to preempt
local regulations of vehicles for hire.
Vièville asked about policy for wheel-chair accessible transportation compared to an ordinance. Lohman responded
that policies are not as strong as ordinances and opined that Uber’s hope may be that the city quickly pass an ordinance
then work out details such as wheel-chair accessible rides after the fact.
Community Comment
Mark Thomas 500 Allison St
Spoke as both a consumer and a driver. As a user, his opinion is they are brilliant in high density areas with demand.
In speaking as a driver he states in a 12-hour shift that he only gets 6-7 rides. He feels that TNCs have to flood the
market in order to be successful and does not feel that there is demand in this area to support TNCs. He felt there is a
population segment that will not be served due to a lack of use of technology, specifically the elderly. He felt that the
disabled will be underserved by TNCs. He believed that the City treats small business fairly, but does not feel that cab
companies receive the same consideration. See attached.
Smith asked if there is a taxicab union in the area. Newberry asked him to describe the perceived benefit of TNCs.
Thomas described ease of use, but that taxi companies provide the same except not having an app to utilize. Newberry
asked if rideshares were cheaper. Thomas indicated that in some instances it is, however he described surge pricing.
He wanted to make sure the City knows exactly who they are choosing to do business with, citing examples of cities
who have chosen to not allow TNCs and the various reasons why. Vièville asked if Thomas’ company is the only
company that has a wheelchair accessible van. Thomas’ understanding is that they are. Vièville stated that the vans
are expensive to run and maintain and did not believe that a policy supports keeping those vans in operation.
Donald Stone
395 Kearney St
He is in favor of mass transit and has spent time as a board member and budget committee member of RVTD. He is
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in support of TNCs and believed the service will be well utilized by seniors and students as it is a door to door operation.
He described difficulty seniors experience when living up-hill from a bus stop. He has utilized Uber in larger cities in
CA and described the vehicles as clean, on time, with courteous drivers, but has not had the same experience when
utilizing cab companies. He shared the experiences of family members regarding transit challenges. He felt that
allowing TNCs would benefit downtown businesses. He feels that Ashland has a habit of overthinking things to the
point of obsurdity. He encouraged commissioners to approve steps to allow TNCs.
Nancy Buffington
3295 Hwy 66
Buffington had not had an opportunity to look over the whole proposed ordinance. She questioned why we would lower
our background check standards to allow a business into the city. She stated that Uber was fined $8.9 million dollars
in November 2017 in Colorado for allowing drivers who did not have background checks to drive. Among those non-
compliant drivers were sex offenders, those with revoked licenses, and those who did not try to complete a background
check. She felt that lowering standards would not protect citizens. Through the years she has met with Barbara
Christensen and Steve McLennan arguing that many unlicensed taxi operators work in the City. If we can’t keep track
of the few companies already in the area, how will be able to regulate a flood of drivers? She questioned why TNCs
are allowed to have fluctuating rates and stated that her company is currently operating in Ashland without a taxi
license.
Graf queried Lohman and Brown about what they want from the Commission. Brown would like to hear any
recommendations regarding the proposed ordinance as written or additions or deletions to the proposed ordinance.
Lohman informed commissioners that the attorneys have taken notes about the concerns expressed by the
commissioners during this meeting to share with City Council and invited commissioners to come to the next Council
meeting to share opinions and concerns. Graf added he would like to see 15 minute zones utilized for pick up and drop
off by TNCs and taxi companies before and after plays. Newberry asked about inclusion of parking regulations in the
ordinance. Young inquired if there is public pressure to approve the ordinance and wondered about slowing down the
ordinance approval and examining the possibility of a regional approach. Lohman responded that the issues take time
to work through and that Council is divided on the topic so did not feel that a decision will be made hastily. He informed
commissioners of similarities faced when short term home rentals were introduced to the area.
Borgerson felt Uber’s email response was fortunate, so he would be comfortable supporting Council’s approval of the
ordinance on first reading as it is likely that Uber will reject it, giving the City more time to work through details of the
ordinance.
Newberry liked that the proposed ordinance levels the playing field for the TNCs and existing taxi companies and
supported inclusion of police provided background check.
Vièville agreed with Newberry regarding background checks. Vièville does not support discussion of wheel-chair
accessibility outside of an ordinance and questioned if the fares really will be lower than existing taxi companies. Brown
responded that there in anecdotal evidence that TNC rates increased once the service becomes established in an
area. Lohman informed the group that Uber is losing money nationally and is being supported by investors. RVTD
indicated to Lohman that they are not concerned about the impact of Uber, at this point, because bus fares are cheaper
than Uber rides.
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Vièville felt that Uber will impact the plan of the commission to get more in town circulators in place. She felt there is
more work that needs to be done.
Young described his use of Uber as a consumer as positive, but supported the need for TNCs to adhere to the same
rules as taxi companies. Young agreed with the need for availability of wheel-chair accessible vehicles.
Morris asked if the TC needed more time to consider the issue. Vièville preferred more time. Other commissioners did
not feel the need for more time. Newberry inquired about the opinion of the City Council.
Election of Chair and Vice Chair
Vièville nominated Newberry for Chair. Young seconded. All ayes.
Smith nominated Borgerson for vice chair. Young seconded. All ayes.
TASK LIST
Discuss current action item list
Newberry requested information from ODOT about the plan to solve large radius turn problems around Bellview. Fleury
indicated that engineering has calculated the radius for right turns on the Siskiyou corridor from Walker to Bellview and
they are 30-40’. ASHTO design standards when turning right from a major roadway to a minor roadway with a high
pedestrian volume are 10-15’ radius. The data has been forwarded to ODOT and Fleury has not heard back from them
about this but felt the fixes will likely be easy. Morris asked if ASHTO design was for perpendicular streets as there are
very few perpendicular streets in that corridor. Fleury elaborated that the design changes would consider if a driver
turns-back or not and that some improvements may not be physical treatments, but rather a stripping treatment. Vièville
asked if those calculations were for streets on the uphill side of Siskiyou Blvd.
Newberry addressed #9 Siskiyou Tolman Creek Rd intersection, expressing concern about how the sidewalk will look
and wanted to view ODOT plans prior to the start of the project. Fleury did not know how that intersection will be
handled and reminded commissioners that chasing the roadway back a significant distance will be necessary to make
the repair to current ADA standards. There are significant issues to consider when repairing this intersection.
Young requested an update of downtown super sharrows. Fleury stated there no changes at this time as the focus has
been on N Main crosswalks. Fleury informed the group that flashing beacons are available again and some adjustments
to the plan will be made as a result. Young wondered when any of these treatments will be in place. Fleury responded
that appropriation for these projects was approved in the current biennial budget. Crosswalks and refuge island work
should happen this summer as design approval is close. ODOT has pushed back somewhat regarding the super
sharrows, mostly related to how they tie in together. That project will begin with final design approval from ODOT.
Morris discussed the crosswalk that crosses Siskiyou Blvd at Harmony Ln which ends in a driveway. Morris received
a citizen request to investigate the area in front of the Minute Market parking lot. Fleury reminded commissioners of
the ARTS grant and informed commissioners that he submitted Ashland St between Siskiyou Blvd and Clay St, Ashland
St at Normal Ave, Iowa St, and Siskiyou Blvd from Walker to Tolman Cr Rd to the consulting traffic engineering firm to
see if the crosswalk and lighting improvement projects meet grant qualifications. Ashland does not experience the
fatalities necessary to qualify for the auto grant, but does have pedestrian issues that could qualify for the pedestrian
grant.
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OLD BUSINESS
Community meeting follow up
Fleury described his additions to the summary notes and asked for comments, additions or corrections. Young asked
if the notes would be sent to attendees. Fleury responded yes. Newberry would like an email containing a letter as well
as the original summary and Fleury’s edits sent to all attendees. She further described what she believed the content
of the letter should be and commissioners discussed. Graf directed attention to the section detailing paid parking and
advised commissioners to consider this topic in case oversight becomes the responsibility of the TC.
FOLLOW UP ITEMS
None
INFORMATIONAL ITEMS
Transit Feasibility Study update
Fleury indicated that Nelson Nygaard will be here next week. The stakeholder interviews have been set up with
Mountain Meadows, Chamber, SOU and citizen interviews will be conducted at the Grower’s Market. GIS creating a
map to track citizen survey comments similar to RVTDs website survey. TFS information will be presented to TC at
either the May or June meeting depending on Nelson Nygaard’s needs. Graf wondered if there are any events that
commissioners can attend. Fleury indicated that commissioners could attend the Grower’s Market and the TAC
meeting, but the TAC is not an open meeting for citizens. Fleury clarified the role of the TAC and how information will
be disseminated.
Accident Report
Graf was pleased that the map provided an easy way to spot problem areas. Fleury informed commissioners that the
police department radar speed trailer is no longer functional but a replacement may have been found. The new trailer
will acquire data for traffic studies and can be set to flash when exceeding the speed limit by a determined amount. It
can be used in conjunction with tubes to verify data.
Draft City of Ashland ADA Transition Plan
Fleury described the draft of the ADA Transition plan which was drafted similarly to Eugene’s plan. All municipal
organizations must have a transition plan for the right of way. Comments should be directed to Fleury. Vièville and
Newberry inquired if problems or violations could be reported by means other than a formal letter. Fleury indicated yes.
Vièville inquired about an ODOT lawsuit and wondered if proceeds were expected by the city. Fleury responded that
ODOT is obligated to bring everything in their system up to standard by 2032 and will be completing an inventory to
determine which of their facilities are compliant and which are not. Fleury did not yet know if ODOT will perform
upgrades or pay the City to make upgrades but that the scope of this is only to bring ramps up to standard. Newberry
questioned if sidewalks are included or just ramps. Newberry questioned if a grievance could be filed by a disabled
person when lack of sidewalks inhibit a person’s ability to access public transportation and cited a lawsuit filed in NV
that required the local city to install sidewalks from a residence to a bus stop due to lack of ADA compliance. Graf
instructed commissioners to forward questions and edits to Fleury.
Fleury described the CIP update spreadsheet and indicated that it is provided to City Council to keep them updated on
capital project status. Newberry questioned why the E Nevada St extension still exists on the CIP. Fleury clarified that
it is part of the approved CIP projects and that It will not be included with the next approval of the CIP.
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COMMISSION OPEN DISCUSSION
Graf reminded commissioners of the commission vacancy. Young questioned if the vacancy had been posted. Fleury
responded that it had. Borgerson found the position he was appointed to in the classified section of the newspaper and
wondered how often ads such as that are placed. Morris indicated his belief that it is an ongoing ad that changes as
vacancies occur.
Newberry inquired about an email she received regarding a potential liaison appointment. Fleury responded that
Jackson County is updating their Active Transportation Plan and are looking for citizen members. If commissioners are
interested in being appointed, contact Fleury.
Newberry thanked Graf for his time as chair and for his good leadership. Young echoed Newberry’s sentiments.
FUTURE AGENDA TOPICS
High and Church St 4-way stop
Parking Permit Policy
TGM grant application
ADJOURNMENT: 8:05
Respectfully submitted,
Taina Glick
Public Works Administrative Assistant