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ASHLAND HOUSING COMMISSION
MINUTES
JUNE 21, 2000
CALL TO ORDER – The meeting was called to order at 4:10 p.m. by Chair Larry Medinger. Other
Commissioners present were Nancy Richardson, Carlus Harris, Joan Legg, and Jan Vaughn. Madeline Hill
arrived at 4:25 p.m. Absent members were Joe McKeever and Gerry Sea. Staff present were Bill Molnar and
Sue Yates.
GUEST SPEAKER – Doug Neuman
Molnar introduced Doug Neuman and explained to the Commissioners that he built a subdivision off
Mountain Avenue. He built some homes in this subdivision that fell under the City’s affordable housing
program. Neuman said he built 41 homes and 11 of those were affordable. The houses proved to be very
popular and he quickly sold all the affordable homes. They got a lot of first-time homebuyers. Because the
market has done so well, some of the affordable homeowners decided to sell their homes after owning them
only a short time. In doing so, they made a windfall on their property, paid off their Systems Development
Charges and were able to buy a nicer home with the money they made from their home. One person bought
their home for $105,000 and sold it for $169,000. About five of the eleven homes are no longer in the
affordable program. The program does not seem to be in keeping with what the City wanted to accomplish
in the first place. Neuman’s idea would be to require the owner live in the house for three to five years
before selling it. If they sell before the five years are up, they have to sell to someone who qualifies for the
affordable program. He understands some people have to move but he would like to see a way to keep the
houses in the affordable program longer.
Medinger noted that when he was building developments with affordable housing and receiving density
bonus points from the City, that the market had not jumped quite so dramatically. The City, is therefore
giving away an irrevocable density bonus. The affect of it is lost in six months to three years. Medinger
mentioned a recapture agreement drawn up by the City that never got implemented. He said the appraisers
were confused and would write appraisals based on comparables not in the affordable program.
Molnar said the recapture agreement came under so much fire, they got rid of it. Vaughn believes we should
look at this again.
Harris explained the land trust concept to Neuman. Molnar thought it might be easier for Neuman or other
developers to give up one to two lots for the land trust. Harris understood Molnar and Medinger are working
on a three-prong program. The developer could do something less than 25 percent affordable and call it
good by giving the land trust a lot. The land trust negotiates with the buyers.
The Commissioners discussed how much more difficult it would be for those at 130 percent of median to live
in Ashland now. Harris said, in reality, the median income has gone up between one and four percent over
the last ten years. The cost of housing has gone up anywhere as much as ten percent per year. If the
housing market is going up in cost double what the median income is going up, the disparity is getting
greater and greater.
Legg thought the Commission needed to take a planning day and look at income groups and how they all
work together. It is as important that we address the 130 percent people as land trust people.
Medinger thinks, in the meantime, we should reinstate the recapture clause. He asked if Molnar could find
that part of the ordinance, review it, and send it to the Council for approval. Fine thought it could happen in
August if they could get it to the Council.
INCLUSIONARY ZONING AMENDMENTS - Medinger and Molnar are working on this.
NEW BUSINESS
Fine told the Commissioners that he talked with the Council about the problem of emergency responders
who cannot afford to live in Ashland. It is important to have people connected with the community they
serve. Mayor Shaw thought it should be thought out for other city workers and for teachers in the
community. Councilor Reid did not want to displace people at the very low end of the income scale in order
to try and find housing for moderate income people who get good benefits. The sense of the Council was
that it should not be considered by the Council but by the Housing Commission.
Fine said the salary level for each position is in the budget document. The concern is primarily for new hires.
Harris believes this requires a comprehensive study. First of all, what are we trying to get our arms around?
Besides income, continue providing affordable housing through the land trust (in perpetuity). Harris thought
we should discuss a number of scenarios. What happens if a police officer is no longer with the police
department? How does that property get back into the affordable pool if it does at all? When the
Commission presents something to the Council, all the data needs to be there in a comprehensive way. He
is not sure we have the time to do this. He wondered about bringing someone in on a contractual basis to
see the outcomes and the costs associated with this. This can be presented to the Council and they can
decide which parts of the plan will work.
Hill noted just a few scenarios too. What if a police officer gets a year or two of paid leave because of sexual
abuse. Do they get to keep living in the house that the taxpayers are helping with? What about single moms
who are waitresses? What about the person who has not bought the toys and have saved up for a house?
Fine said although it is important to take care of these people’s needs for pure equity and moral reasons,
there is also a public interest. If Fine’s neighborhood catches fire and his house is in danger, it does him
very little good to call in waitresses and schoolteachers.
Legg said we don’t have a comprehensive way of dealing with the citizens of Ashland. We have to sit down
with the experts, union people and others.
Harris said the Council is asking the Commission to look at emergency response employees. If we heap on
other people, then that will not be addressing what the Council wants.
It makes Medinger nervous when we talk about studies. He believes we have the brains in this committee to
come up with ideas and the direction to explore. He would rather see the Commission work on it first before
looking to outside consultants.
The Commission wanted to continue to pursue the VISTA volunteer.
After much discussion, it was decided that the next meeting will be Wednesday, July 26th from 2:30 to 5:30
p.m. Some ideas of things needed are programs from other communities, entry incomes, household size,
other community subsidized programs, recapture guidelines, and what happens after people leave the city’s
employment.
Legg said she would go along with this only if it were a first step toward the whole process. Fine said at the
end of that meeting, that hey could find a time for a broader planning retreat.
ADJOURNMENT - The meeting was adjourned at 5:30 p.m.
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