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ASHLAND PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MAY 13, 2008
AGENDA
I. CALL TO ORDER:
7:OO PM, Civic Center, 1175 E. Main Street
II. ANNOUNCEMENTS
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
IV. CONSENT AGENDA
A.
Approval of Minutes
1.
April 8, 2008 Planning Commission Meeting
2.
April 8, 2008 Hearings Board Meeting
3.
April 22, 2008 Water Resources Study Session/Workshop
V.PUBLIC FORUM
VI. SPECIAL PRESENTATION
Southern Oregon University Intern Project - Special report on photo inventory of riparian areas
VII. TYPE III PLANNING ACTION
A. PLANNING ACTION:
2007-01313
APPLICANT:
City of Ashland
DESCRIPTION:
A proposed Chapter 18.63, Water Resource Protection Zones added to the
Ashland Land Use Ordinance addressing wetland and riparian area protection, and
revisions to Chapter 18.62 Physical and Environmental Constraints regarding Riparian
Preservation Lands.
VIII. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
A.
Planning Commission Rules
B.
Appointment of third member of Hearings Board for June through August
IX. OTHER
A.
Planning Commission Powers and Duties (AMC 2.12)
B.
Planning Commission Annual Retreat
X.ADJOURNMENT
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not allowed after the Public Hearing is closed.
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CALL TO ORDER
Chair John Stromberg called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. at the Ashland Civic Center, 1175 E. Main Street, Ashland, OR.
Commissioners Present: Council Liaison:
John Stromberg, Chair Cate Hartzell, Council Liaison, absent for quasi-
Dave Dotterrer judicial item, arrived at 8:25 p.m. for Type III PA
Tom Dimitre Staff Present:
Mike Morris Bill Molar, Community Development Director
John Fields Maria Harris, Planning Manager
Pam Marsh Derek Severson, Associate Planner
Melanie Mindlin Richard Appicello, City Attorney
Absent Member:
Michael Dawkins, excused Sue Yates, Executive Secretary
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Molnar said the Council passed the Ashland Land Use Ordinance amendments (second reading) and the ordinance will go into effect
July 1, 2008. The Council also passed (second reading) of the Planning Commission’s Powers and Duties.
Molnar announced that Sue Yates will be retiring at the end of April.
The Commissioners will be receiving an e-mail with three possible dates for the May retreat. Choose a date and return the e-mail.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
– Dimitre/Dotterrer m/s to approve the agenda. Voice Vote: The agenda was approved.
CONSENT AGENDA
Approval of Minutes
March 11, 2008 Planning Commission Meeting - Fields/Dotterrer m/s to approve the minutes. Voice Vote: Approved.
PUBLIC FORUM
COLIN SWALES, 461Allison Street
, discussed the Downtown Design Standards concerning the Administrative Variance for balconies.
He showed a photo of the old Ashland Hotel from 1911. It had a balcony/arcade all along the front of the building. It is similar to
what is seen in Jacksonville. The historic balcony/arcade extends out into the public right-of-way, assuming the front of the building
is the property line. He believes this would be a great way for the City to make use of the valuable public right-of-way space and
enhance the Downtown. He recommended the Commission look at the Sanborn map for Downtown for 1911 to see how the
Downtown developed. He would like to have this type of development reviewed if there is any chance of amending the Downtown
Design Standards. Not only does the arcade/balcony enhance the possibilities of upper story restaurants or sitting out over the street,
but would also provide shade and a covering in the rain for pedestrians.
TYPE II PUBLIC HEARINGS
PLANNING ACTION:2008-00182
SUBJECT PROPERTY: 500 Strawberry Lane
APPLICANT:McLellan, Robert & Laura
DESCRIPTION: Request for Outline Plan Approval to allow a six-lot, five-unit subdivision under the Performance Standards Options
Chapter for the property located at 500 Strawberry Lane. The application also requests a Physical & Environmental Constraints Review
Permit for Development of Hillside Lands, a Tree Removal Permit to remove 13 trees six-inches in diameter at breast height (d.b.h.) or
larger, and an Exception to Street Standards to allow the applicants to end street improvements at the driveway of Lot 5 rather than
extending them to the southern boundary of the project.
The hearing was closed at the last regular meeting, deliberation continued, and the record was left open for seven days at which time
the applicant was given seven days to submit a response to any written submissions.
Ex Parte Contact/Bias/Conflict of Interest/Site Visit
Fields walked all the way up and around the property. He noticed the public trail system and the slope of the land. Morris reported
that Mrs. Dimino asked him who did the cabinets in the McLellan house. Dimitre, Mindlin, Marsh, Dotterrer and Stromberg had no
site visit or ex parte contacts.
STAFF REVIEW OF ISSUES
1. On-street parking on Hitt – The number of homes to be accessed from Hitt Road will increase from five to eight. There is a
parking demand generated by users of the trail system who currently park in the private driveway near the existing gate and along Hitt
Road. (Refer to Staff Report Addendum dated April 8, 2008 for more details.) Staff believes there are options readily available to
address the additional parking demand. The applicant has offered to provide an additional visitor parking space on each of the
proposed lots. Staff believes the Commission could require the applicants provide for additional on-street spaces with parking bays
between the driveways for Lots 2 and 4 and/or near the proposed relocated gate. A Condition has been proposed to require that the
Final Plan submittal identify additional on-street parking spaces on Hitt Road.
2. Application of lot coverage – The flexibility inherent in the intent of the Performance Standards Options can be applied to lot
coverage in terms of the subdivision site as a whole in order to protect natural features of the site while providing architectural
creativity. Staff believes this application of lot coverage provides for the greatest protection of the natural environment.
3. McLellan’s participation in the LID (issue raised by Dimino’s). Severson met with Jim Olson, Interim Public Works
Director, and found the McLellan’s participated for a two lot potential and paid $8,280. According to the City Attorney, this cannot
be reassessed by the Planning Commission’s Condition because ORS specifically prohibits reassessment.
Staff still believes the application is relatively straight-forward. The Commission will need to determine what degree any increase in
on-street parking demand generated by the subdivision needs to be addressed in the Conditions and at Final Plan submittal.
Mindlin questioned the 22 foot road width and 20 foot clear. Molnar said eventually, if the Fire Department sees a need, No Parking
signs will be installed.
Severson tried to leave some flexibility in the Condition (5j) to allow the applicants to submit a proposal after they look into all the
options at Final Plan submittal to demonstrate the most efficient way of providing additional parking. Stromberg summarized that the
Staff Report Addendum has proposed five spaces (one on each lot), four spaces (two in each parking bay). Severson reiterated that the
applicant needs to explore that number and placement and review at Final Plan. There may be other options available to the applicant.
Molnar said they are also looking at adequate fire protection for that area. Severson noted that the property beyond the improved road
is City property and one private lot that is an extremely sloped lot.
Dimitre wondered how many parking spaces are needed to meet adequate City facilities. Severson did not have a specific, but thought
in addition to the five additional private spaces the two bays would be adequate. He reminded the Commission an Exception to Street
Standards has been requested. Molnar explained that each house is required to have two spaces and the applicants are adding a third.
There is no specific requirement for on-street parking in this zoning district.
Stromberg said there is a limitation on the amount of on-street parking for those who drive up to that area to use the trail. What is the
City’s responsibility? Severson said that is the balance the Commission has to find. Molnar said the trailhead exacerbates the
potential for a problem, but Staff does not believe they can place that burden on this applicant.
Morris wondered why we were allowing the road to end at the driveway and not bring it up to at least to the end of Lot 5 with half
street improvements to the start of the open space. Severson said in evaluating it, the cut slopes would be impacted by sidewalk
improvements. If the Exceptions are merited on one set of slopes, it’s equally merited in this area. He did not see a reason to have the
road come up further. He thinks the applicants are proposing to have the road go a little past the drive to allow either parking or
turnaround.
Dotterrer noted the whole issue seems to revolve around safety and adequate access for fire apparatus. Appicello said that’s why the
code acknowledges the use of bays and specifically where they are safe to locate. Equal or superior transportation will be provided
with this Exception.
Dotterrer said a Condition was added to accept the Tree Commission’s recommendation. Do we have the authority to ask the
applicant to take care of mistletoe in the oak trees? Severson does not think we can require mitigation on every tree. We can require
mitigation of the 18 inch tree that is to be removed and when Lot 5 develops we would look at the tree removals proposed as part of
the Hillside Development Permit and look at mitigation based on the entire disturbance proposed. With regard to the mistletoe,
Severson said the Condition states “…where consistent with City standards.”
COMMISSIONERS’ DELIBERATIONS AND MOTION
Mindlin believes the Commission should require as much parking as they ca get. If there are areas that aren’t as steep and bays will fit
in, we should ask for it. Marsh agreed.
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Dotterrer did not feel extending the street beyond Lot 5 makes good sense. He would go along with a couple of parking bays. The
applicant didn’t create this situation.
Morris said even though the applicants have proposed moving the gate up 20 feet, he thinks 50 to 60 feet up the existing road (and
widening the road for turnaround area) would be appropriate. He can’t remember a time when there was just a road that ended. Fields
said there is no way to put a 30 foot cut up that road. It’s just too steep.
Severson said he thought the applicants would be widening Hitt Road to the gate to match the existing improvement to the gate.
Morris/ Fields m/s to approve PA2008-00182, with wording to Condition 5j as follows: That in addition to the third off-street parking space
proposed to be provided on each of Lots 1-5 by the applicants, the Final Plan submittal shall also identify four parking bay spaces to be
provided on Hitt Road near the relocated gate and between driveways 2 and 4. The gate will be moved to the end of the improvements
and Hitt Road to the southern extent of the street improvements. The gate needs to be located sufficiently beyond the bay for the parking
space to function as a parking bay. Hitt Road shall be widened to the gate. Roll Call: The motion carried unanimously.
Approval of Findings – Morris/Marsh m/s to approve the Findings according to the approved motion. Roll Call: The Findings were
unanimously approved.
The Commission took a five minute recess. Councilor Cate Hartzell arrived at 8:25 p.m.
TYPE III PLANNING ACTION
PLANNING ACTION: PA2007-01318
SUBJECT: An ordinance amending the Ashland Municipal Code Land Use Ordinance concerning special \[arterial\] setbacks and
associated street standards.
APPLICANT: City of Ashland
DESCRIPTION: The proposed amendments to the Special Setback Requirements expand the exception from the 20-foot front yard
requirement for properties abutting arterial streets to include all properties abutting Lithia Way. The current ordinance has an exception
to the 20-foot front yard requirement for properties zoned C-1-D which applies to the lots on the south side of Lithia Way. The proposed
amendment would also include the lots on the north side of Lithia Way in the exception from the 20-foot front yard requirement.
Additionally, the proposed amendments to the Street Standards Handbook specify that the minimum width for a commercial tree well is
five foot by five foot, and that the minimum required sidewalk with on arterials in the Downtown Design Standards Zone is ten feet.
STAFF REPORT
Harris did a brief slide show that explained the information in the Staff Report. The proposed amendments have two pieces: 1)
Review to Special Setback Requirements, and 2) Some revisions to the Street Standards.
1. Special Setback Requirements – Currently there is an Exception to the 20-foot front yard requirement for properties in the C-
1-D zone. The new language expands that to the C-1 properties abutting Lithia Way. That means the Exception will apply to both
sides of the street.
2.Revisions (or clarifications) to the Street Standards
a.Commercial parkrow minimum width is five feet.
b.Tree grate size of five feet by five feet.
c.Structural soil required in hardscape parkrow
d.Ten-foot wide sidewalk is minimum width on arterial streets in the Downtown Design Standards zone.
What does this mean? Harris showed a photo of Lithia Way. Under the proposed ordinance, as new buildings developed on the south
side of the street, the required sidewalk and tree well improvements would be required. On the north side (Post Office side), a 20 foot
setback to the building from the property line would be required. Staff has estimated the property line is approximately seven feet
back from the curb line. Both sides of the streets should match so the buildings could be placed adjacent to the back of the sidewalk
with a standard and commercial parkrow installed.
Harris showed some photo renderings to help the Commissioners visualize what the ordinance would mean. The result of the
amendment is to get a Main Street development pattern on the north side of Lithia Way. The official downtown boundary is
established in the Downtown Plan adopted in 1988. That includes both sides of Lithia Way. That was reaffirmed during the
Downtown Designs Zone development in 1998.
Benefits of the amendment:
Support the urban principles currently captured in the Comprehensive Plan and the Site Design and Use Standards.
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Preserve downtown character by maintaining the continuity in the established building pattern.
Provide consistency with the Site Design and Use Standards, Transportation Element and TSP.
Provide clear direction for land use application process.
Staff Recommendation: That the Planning Commission recommends approval to the City Council.
Harris noted that when they talked about this in January, Staff had presented a different draft ordinance package. They heard quite a
few concerns during and after that presentation about that approach being complex and confusing. Tonight’s draft is more straight-
forward.
Marsh asked what Staff’s sense is of the other arterials that have been left undiscussed. Ultimately, Harris believes it would be good
to look at Ashland Street because it, along with Lithia Way, has the highest percentage of undeveloped lots. She reminded the Lithia
Way process has taken about nine months. Marsh believes it is important not to lose sight of how we were going to look at all the
arterials and we go back and pick it up where appropriate.
Stromberg referred to Page 22 of the Street Standards under Street Design Standards concerning the parkrows. It states seven to eight
feet on both sides, hardscape parkrow with street trees planted in wells shall be used in commercial areas. It doesn’t say anything
about reducing the size of the parkrow. Harris said she believes the intent was to use the City specification for the tree grate all along.
It used to be four by four feet and recently changed to five by five feet.
Dimitre asked how the sidewalk on the south side of the street compares to what is proposed. Fields said the width in front of the
Jasmine building is ten feet, six inches from curb to building. Dimitre said the five-and-a-half feet remaining does not give
pedestrians much room to pass. Harris said the ten foot measurement is from the commercial parkrow to the face of the building so
that would be a clear ten feet in width in addition to the parkrow.
Dimitre asked if we approve this amendment tonight, how does this impact previously approved projects that may not have been built
out yet? Harris said this amendment would not apply to an already approved project. Dimitre further asked if there is a way for
applicants to come back and ask for an amendment to an earlier approval. Molnar said we are talking about one of the first
applications on Northlight that set the building back roughly 27 feet from the curb. They could propose a modification to their design
through a public hearing according to the ordinances on the books.
Molnar said the Design Standards encourage public spaces in front of the building. Through the process we might be looking at a
transitional setback if the contrast in the building line along Lithia Way is too stark.
Molnar reflected on what we did before we created the Street Standards (before 1999). There were just two provisions in the code
(Subdivision and Performance Standard) that referred to a couple of street standards with a footnote “standards variable based on
specific situations.” Streets were done internally between Public Works and Planning by looking at the order of the street such as
zoning, how much parking, etc. There were no Exceptions ever needed because it was done through discussions with the professional
engineering staff. Then we adopted the section that provided for Exceptions. We’ve gotten hung about where street improvements
were built to what was on the books at the time. As we have redevelopment, how do the new standards apply? For a couple of years,
there was some learning how to work with the new process. Molnar said it was never anyone’s intention to do anything intentionally.
PUBLIC HEARING
COLIN SWALES, 461 Allison
, said neither the Zucker Report nor Siegel Report led the Council to ask the Planning Commission to deal
with this issue. He does not know why the Planning Commission is dealing with this now. Stromberg said the Planning Commission
has the independent authority to initiate changes in the Land Use Ordinance. The direction the Council gave was to form a committee
that Fields, Morris and Stromberg were on to only process those parts of the Siegel Report that were non-policy items.
The drawings in the PowerPoint presentation showed a 15 foot parkrow and sidewalk throughout the Lithia Way corridor. Swales
said the whole of the street wall on the south side of Lithia Way has been moved forward right up to the property line with an
inadequate sidewalk. The Commission did point out that to move the curbs would be a multi-million dollar job. The curbs on the
front of the Northlight property have been removed this week and he doubts this was a multi-million dollar job.
The ordinance provision reads: “In order to protect and benefit the health, safety and welfare of existing and future residents of the
City, it is necessary to modify the setback as relates to certain arterial streets, namely Lithia Way. It’s apparent from the Staff Report
that the reason this is being changed is to allow more development on the north side of Lithia Way, specifically for the Northlight
property. Swales thought it should read: “In order to protect and benefit the wealth and profits and welfare of the existing and future
private developers of the City…” He cannot see a downside if the ordinance change is not approved.
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JEROME WHITE, 253 Third Street,
is speaking as an architect and citizen. He heard from a local builder that back in the 1960’s when
this ordinance was created, they were trying to address light and air due to smog from logging trucks and mills in town. The arterials
were congested before the freeway went in. He thinks this ordinance tried to address this problem. We don’t have that problem now.
He is looking forward to clear standards – a standard that addresses the street front and an ordinance that doesn’t harken back to some
former issue that no longer exists. The Downtown Plans consistently have said to build to the property line.
Planners from the state came to Ashland to speak last year and told the attendees that it would be a disaster to have a 20 foot setback
all along Lithia Way and to have the plaza space. An occasional mid-block setback is a good thing. He would like the Commission to
approve the amended ordinance and move on.
RON ROTH, 6950 Old 99 South,
stated he has worked in downtown Ashland for over 31 years and has been involved with different
issues downtown. He is supportive of this new ordinance. It makes a lot of sense to have this setback. The existing buildings such as
the Post Office and the Copeland buildings were not set back 20 feet.
GEORGE KRAMER, 386 N. Laurel,
congratulated Staff on this change. He applauded the Commission for jumping in and doing Lithia
Way first. This is a good change to make sure whatever gets built on Lithia Way will be the right thing. The old language is old
planning. The 20 foot setback is a car oriented standard. What we enjoy about North Main and the downtown has to do with the
street wall and the zero setback.
He works as a design consultant. They design standards that require buildings to have zero setback. People don’t like vacant land. A
couple mid-block plazas work. Lithia Way needs to reflect a traditional downtown pedestrian core. He is supportive of the proposed
compromise. It will provide the flexibility of building designs and still provides for adequate public amenities.
MIKE HAWKINS, 500 Oak Street, Jacksonville, OR,
asked for explanation of the setback. Harris said currently the setback is 20 feet
from the property line. The proposed amendment says you don’t have to do a 20 foot setback from the front property line. Hawkins
had no other comments.
MARK KNOX, 700 Mistletoe Road,
believes this proposed ordinance is a positive contribution to Ashland’s primary streetscapes. He
believes it will provide clear and objective criteria on which to base their decisions. The current ordinance is a remnant from the
automobile era and does nothing to enhance the pedestrian environment. What is the goal of anyone opposing this ordinance? The
ordinance amendment is sound planning practice, not developer driven. He would like to see an amendment to the Table 1 footnote
allowing an option for a planter bed similar to East Main Street. It provides a simple amenity and provides seating and additional
landscaping and a more human scale experience.
Stromberg closed the public hearing.
COMMISSIONERS’ DELIBERATION AND MOTION
Marsh/Dotterrer m/s to approve the draft ordinance revisions regarding arterial setbacks on Lithia Way and refer them to the City Council.
Marsh said clearly there is a great deal of ambiguity and dysfunction around the current arterial setbacks. It’s the Planning
Commission’s job to address those kinds of gaps in the ordinances and to make clear to applicants what we are looking for.
Marsh continued that the change in the setbacks on Lithia Way have several distinct advantages. They provide consistency on Lithia
Way. Inconsistency causes people to feel uncomfortable on the street. The change will allow us to provide a pedestrian environment
that feels safe and provides an enclosure to people using the street. We will be implementing an appropriate commercial environment.
If we want buildings in the core of our downtown areas that relate to pedestrians and have retail uses in them that mimic the type of
commercial development we have on Main Street, we need to allow those buildings to hug the public sidewalk. Do we want offices in
the bottom floor of the downtown core?
Is the proposal a wide enough sidewalk? She would like to get rid of the whole concept of a hardscape parkrow and move toward the
kind of concept presented by the planners from the state. She would like to see a width of sidewalk and within that sidewalk we have
certain zones – furniture zone by the curb, passage zone in the middle. We are looking at a 15 foot sidewalk with trees in it. It’s a
broader street than on Main Street and it’s hard to argue that it should be any broader than it is laid out. We have a good proposal that
we’ve discussed for a year, and Marsh hoped the Commissioners will join her in approving it.
Dotterrer appreciates White and Kramer filling in the history. Two standards for two sides of the street are not balanced. He likes the
idea there is flexibility to applicants and yet still having a good streetscape.
Dimitre wondered how we get plaza areas if the buildings are less than 10,000 square feet. Molnar said it’s not a hard and fast
requirement but there is a standard that we encourage hardscape and people areas in the Detailed Site Review Zone in the Downtown.
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It is identified as an amenity.
Dimitre is more interested in deferring this ordinance change until we get a Downtown Plan, and will vote against the change.
Fields believes sidewalk width is a little too wide, but we can live with it. He likes the sidewalks on the south side because it
idiosyncratic and has character. Talking about developing better transportation systems, etc. means having densities that will support
it. We want to see concentrated commercial areas that have a mixed use of residential above them that encourage people to live, work
and support public transportation that changes the way we move ourselves around and how we live. What makes downtowns
interesting is the urban part of our lives that create interest and excitement, economy and jobs. What Staff has proposed is a simple
solution and a tiny step. He favors the change.
Morris would like to see this go forward. Everywhere you go and anyone you talk to from downtown planners to Siegel to ODOT, the
streetscape and activity is generated by the narrower sidewalks and the buildings built to the street. He much prefers the energy
created compared with walking in Medford where it is spread out and open. He believes we need to allow Staff to use the Downtown
Design Standards to break up the masses.
Stromberg has resisted doing away with the 20 foot front yard for a long time. He has put a lot of time and effort into getting the City
Council to do what he thinks is a badly needed Downtown Plan. He has been discouraged by the City Council’s unwillingness to
commit itself and commit the resources to do something the downtown and City greatly needs. He can no longer in good faith hold
out on the 20 foot front yard that he does not think is appropriate for this area. He may still vote against it because he doesn’t want to
shrink the sidewalk and parkrow as part of the deal.
Molnar talked with Donn Todt, Parks Department. He told him the Planning Commission had been discussing tree grates. Todt told
Molnar that soil amendments are what make the difference to trees. The tree grate size won’t make that much difference.
Stromberg said Siegel gave us language to fix the front yard setback. Also, all yards abutting arterial shall be no less than 20 feet. He
believes we should make that correction. And, recommend to the Council that they rescind the complex interpretation they made a
couple years ago to deal with the problem.
Stromberg added that he did not understand in the Downtown Design Standards it says there should be a zero setback between the
either the sidewalk or the property line. He thinks it should be a zero setback from the sidewalk as prescribed by the Street Standards.
It seems we are perpetuating an ambiguity.
Molnar said that would be easy enough to clear up.
Mindlin asked if we want to allow for planter boxes. Molnar did not think the standard precludes us from looking at that. We need to
come up with a standard to allow for those items that improve the pedestrian environments that could be included through a City
encroachment permit
Roll Call: The motion carried with Dotterrer, Marsh, Morris, Fields, Mindlin voting “yes” and Stromberg and Dimitre voting “no.”
Hartzell agreed with Stromberg that the Downtown Plan is important. She wants to make sure we are stewards of the public space. In
giving space to a private building, we must ensure that we are getting a quality of exchange on the public space that is left.
OTHER
nd
There will be a Water Resources Protection Zone Workshop on April 22 at 7:00 p.m. at the Council Chambers.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 10:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by,
Susan Yates, Executive Secretary
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CALL TO ORDER
Commissioner John Fields called the meeting to order at 1:35 p.m. at the Ashland Civic Center, 1175 E. Main Street, Ashland,
OR 97520.
Commissioners Present:: Council Liaison:
John Fields Cate Hartzell, (Council Liaison does not attend Planning
Melanie Mindlin Commission meetings in order to avoid conflict of interest.)
John Stromberg
Absent Members: Staff Present:
NoneDerek Severson, Associate Planner
Angela Barry, Assistant Planner
Amy Anderson, Assistant Planner
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
March 11, 2008 Hearings Board Minutes – Approved as written.
TYPE I PLANNING ACTIONS
PLANNING ACTION: PA2008-00338
SUBJECT PROPERTY: 600 Siskiyou Boulevard
APPLICANT:Laura Bixby Fox
DESCRIPTION: Request for a Modification of an existing Conditional Use Permit and Site Review for the establishment of
an office use for the property located at 600 Siskiyou. No physical alterations to the site are proposed.
This action stands approved.
PLANNING ACTION: PA2008-00316
SUBJECT PROPERTY: 339 Morton St.
APPLICANT:Jason Eaton
DESCRIPTION: Request for a Conditional Use Permit for an Accessory Residential Unit for a property located at 339
Morton Street.
This action stands approved.
PLANNING ACTION: PA2008-00080
SUBJECT PROPERTY: 750 Roca St.
APPLICANT:Kerry KenCairn
DESCRIPTION: Request for a Modification to an approved building envelope and Physical and Environmental
Constraints Permit to locate a home on Hillside Lands and Severe Constraint Lands and for development in the floodplain
for a property located at 750 Roca Street.
This action stands approved.
PLANNING ACTION: 2008-00183
SUBJECT PROPERTY: 167, 185 and 203 North Mountain Avenue
APPLICANT:Havurah Friends Investment Group, LLC
DESCRIPTION:Request for Final Plan Approval to allow a 12-lot, 15-unit subdivision for the properties located at 167, 185 and 203
North Mountain Avenue. Requests for: the modification of a previously approved Site Review and Conditional Use Permit (#2001-
0039) for the Havurah Jewish Synagogue; Site Review approval to construct a two-story, six-unit residential building; a Tree
Removal Permit for the removal of one nine-inch diameter pine tree from Tax Lot #1701; and a boundary line adjustment with Tax
Lots 1600, 1701, 1800 and 1700 were included in the Outline Plan Approval PA #2007-01398.
This action stands approved.
TYPE II PUBLIC HEARINGS
PLANNING ACTION: 2008-00355
SUBJECT PROPERTY: 140 Central Avenue
APPLICANT:Lois Van Aken
DESCRIPTION: Request for a Conditional Use Permit and Site Review approval for a two unit Travelers Accommodation
for the property located at 140 Central Avenue. The application also includes a Variance request to not pave the existing
driveway off of Central Avenue due to the proximity of the driveway improvements to a large Cedar tree.
Site Visits or Ex Parte Contacts
Mindlin is a personal friend of the applicant, but does not feel it affects her ability to make an impartial decision. Fields and
Stromberg had no site visits or ex parte contacts.
STAFF REPORT
Anderson gave the staff report.
PUBLIC HEARING
Lois Van Aken
spoke as the applicant. The driveway will disturb the cedar tree.
COMMISSIONERS’ DISCUSSION AND MOTION
Stromberg/Mindlin m/s to approve the action. Voice Vote: Unanimously approved.
APPROVAL OF FINDINGS
Stromberg/Mindlin m/s to approve the Findings. Voice Vote: Unanimously approved.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS – Adoption of Findings, Orders & Conclusions
Planning Action 2008-00035, Oak Street, Cleo Smith
Mindlin/Stromberg m/s to approve the above-noted Findings. Voice Vote: Unanimously approved.
ADJOURNMENT
- The meeting was adjourned at 1:49 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by,
Angela Barry, Assistant Planner
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CALL TO ORDER
Chair John Stromberg called the meting to order at 7:05 p.m. at the Ashland Civic Center, 1175 E. Main Street, Ashland, OR.
Commissioners Present: Council Liaison:
John Stromberg, Chair Cate Hartzell, Council Liaison, present
Dave Dotterrer
Michael Dawkins Staff Present:
Mike Morris Bill Molar, Community Development Director
John Fields, left the meeting at 7:30 p.m.Maria Harris, Planning Manager
Pam Marsh Derek Severson, Associate Planner
Melanie Mindlin Sue Yates, Executive Secretary
Absent Member:
Tom Dimitre
APPROVAL OF REVISED AGENDA
Stromberg asked that “Presentations” be included first on the agenda. Dawkins/Dotterrer m/s to approve the revised agenda.
Voice Vote: Approved.
SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS
Departing Commissioners Olena Black (served since 2003) and John Fields (served for ten years) were recognized and thanked
for their extraordinary years of service to the community while on the Planning Commission. Sue Yates, Executive Secretary
for the Planning Department, retiring after 21 years of service was warmly recognized and presented with an engraved set of
wind chimes that can be used by her in perpetuity to remember her wonderful friends, past and present, on the Planning
Commission.
{Short recess for cake}
ADDITIONAL AGENDA REVISIONS
Follow the Water Resource Protection Zone presentation with Revised Planning Commission Rules. Dawkins/Dotterrer m/s to
approve the revised agenda. Voice Vote: Approved.
WORKSHOP
ORDINANCE AMENDING ASHLAND MUNICIPAL CODE, LAND USE ORDINANCE (ALUO) REGARDING CHAPTER 18.63 WATER
RESOURCE PROTECTION ZONES
PLANNING FILE: 2007-01313
Presentation by Bill Molnar
Molnar stated about 1800 notices were sent to property owners around or adjacent to wetlands and stream areas. Tonight is an
opportunity for the Planning Commission and Staff to listen to citizens’ concerns and questions. Molnar invited anyone with
questions specific to their property and how the ordinance might affect the use of their property to come into the Planning
Department or arrange a site visit.
Molnar gave a PowerPoint presentation that will be included in the record.
PUBLIC COMMENTS & QUESTIONS
ROYCE DUNCAN, 1065 Paradise Lane,
expressed the following comments:
1. He will submit technical questions in writing (ordinance redundant in places)
2.Look at ordinance through the eyes of the individual homeowner.
3.What is justification for the increased buffers? The mapped areas for the riparian make up only one to two percent of
the area of Ashland. Look at runoff from City as a whole from roofs, yards, gardens, streets, storm sewer, and what
could possibly be in the buffer that is more polluting that 99 percent of the rest of the City’s runoff?
4.What are unintended consequences? Taking away usage of private property. If the homeowner can’t use it, will they
lose interest in maintaining it? Will blackberries take over in those buffer areas?
5.The more we control property owners, the more we alienate ourselves from pulling together as a community.
6.What other values are we compromising? Are we excluding human use? He would like to see natural drainage areas
more heavily used by humans.
7.More property will fall under the existing non-conforming use and will be subject to process and fees if they make
modifications to their homes.
8.Larger lots will be able to split less. Works against our infill policy.
9.He is opposed to “native” plants (not referring to the channel or noxious and invasive plants).
10.Fencing is a standard human right. Make a provision for open fencing a certain distance from the creek with openings
for small animals to pass through.
11.Do we really want to exclude the use of mechanical equipment?
RICK VEZIE, 446 Walker Avenue
, said “water feature” is not defined in the ordinance.
HILLARY TIEFER, 565 Wrights Creek Drive,
asked for clarification of the following: Land use process for reduction of the
protection zone – Would developers be exempt if they have already bought land for development in the future? Molnar said it
would not be exempt from the ordinance. The primary purpose for adding the reduction section is an understanding that
existing developed lots with single family homes developed previously might not have planned in accordance with the
proposed ordinance, therefore, it allows for some opportunity to reduce the requirement, with mitigation required.
BARRY PECKHAM, 303 Oak Street,
asked for clarification of “top of bank.” What are the natural banks of a stream? Molnar
said they have tried to provide a definition that a lot of communities have used and rely for some flexibility. Staff has discussed
this option rather than going to a more objective standard that is very simple for a property owner to figure out (go to center
line of creek). The problem with the objective standard is that more or even less regulation might occur.
Dawkins commented that it seems Ashland Creek is the only creek that has a problem with top of bank. Most secondary and
intermediate streams are clearly way below stream bank.
Peckham stated he would rather have a more concrete definition.
TERRY CLEMENT, 290 Grandview Drive,
made the following comments:
1.More regulations, more hurdles to cross. Would like a package of how ordinance is applied.
2.Doesn’t trust Staff’s information. – difficult getting to Planning Director and Planning Manager. Feels forced to hire a
professional.
3.Would like a written determination from the City giving the go ahead.
Molnar responded there is a pre-application process whereby an applicant is given a package of how the ordinance is applied.
TRENT STOY, 955 Grandview Drive
, lives out of the City Limits and in the Urban Growth Boundary. Molnar said the ordinance
would not apply to him unless his property is annexed into the City. His land would be subject to County regulations. Story’s
other questions and comments follow.
1.Who has ownership of the resources? Molnar said, generally, the property owners have ownership. The ordinance
would not require a property owner to dedicate the property to the public.
2.Wants to maintain his property rights.
3. Who pays for implementation of the proposed ordinance? Molnar said this ordinance would not require the City to
increase Planning Staff. Individual applications for some of the activities or reductions would trigger a land use application
and our fees are based on approximately 75 percent of the time it takes to Staff to process it and go through a decision-making
process.
RICHARD LUCAS, 1621 Peachey
, said his properties border Paradise Creek. Lucas expressed the following concerns:
1.Why are changes necessary if there are going to be unintended consequences? Property owners with established
pieces of property should not fall under the new ordinance.
2.By requiring 30 foot center stream, 20 foot top of bank could make his property unbuildable.
3. He has a conservation easement on his property. Molnar said a conservation easement is used over an area to
manage a certain area of the creek. The conservation easement does not necessarily line up with the parameters of this
ordinance.
4. If a neighbor on the other side of the creek likes to play with hydrology and ends up moving the creek a little,
Lucas doesn’t have a problem with that, but if it impacts his setback, then he would have a problem with it.
5. He does not agree with the requirement for specific plantings within the buffer zone. He and others have cleaned up
their properties and they take pride in it. If they have too many regulations and restrictions, the buffer areas will
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become blackberries again. Encourage and educate property owners to plant local varieties, but don’t tell them they
can’t plant certain things.
GRAHAM SHELDON, 70 Water Street
, owner of Ashland Creek Inn, stated he is generally in favor of the ordinance. What
happens if there is a flood and a structure such as a deck is removed? Would they be allowed to put the deck back in the same
place again? Molnar said the bigger question is under those circumstances, we do have situations in town where historic
development, whether appropriate or note, extended structures far too close to the stream. Should they be allowed to do that
again or should there be some review and an opportunity to back it off and bring back the creek environment. Molnar will do
more work on this.
FRED WALTER, 770 Walker Avenue
, had an application that required him to build 65 feet from the creek. His waterway is a
five foot culvert. With the new ordinance would he have an opportunity to reduce his setback to 20 feet? Molnar asked Walter
to set up an appointment to come see him.
RICK LANDT, 468 Helman Street,
was a member of the Technical Advisory Committee a few years ago when this ordinance
process began. He expressed his concerns as follows:
1. The proposed ordinance is lengthy and in places tries to be a one-size-fits-all. Oftentimes we won’t be protectinglower
top of bank on one side of the creek while protecting a lot more on the higher top of bank side. That is not addressed
in the ordinance. He has an alternative approach.
2. Incorporate the way protection for the floodplain occurs. The riparian zone follows closely to the floodplain.
3. Non-conforming uses. Some are problematic for the long-term. What are we trying to get for our future? He gave
examples.
4. Don’t hurry the ordinance. It is better to do it right than get it off the checklist.
5. Definition of the protected area. It should be clear so anyone is able to make the measurement. Use the center of
creek and throw out the other language. Subtract distance for elevation gain. We already have a well-defined
floodplain and it may be that would be another way of defining it.
6. Is there evidence that using local native plants are an advantage? He challenged that requirement. It isn’t always easy
to obtain local plants.
7. He would favor taking a look at “use of machinery” section.
RICHARD DAVIS, 1335 Seena Lane,
said the properties in his neighborhood (lower Roca Creek) have ten foot setbacks from top
of bank. Perhaps up the hill would need a different standard. By increasing his setback another ten feet, he’ll lose 3600 square
feet of buildable area. He encouraged the Planning Commissioners to visit the affected neighborhoods.
BILL RICHEY, 675 Carol Street,
said he has a ten foot easement and had questions. Molnar said he would meet with Richey.
OLENA BLACK, 2110Creek Drive
, had the following comments and questions:
1. TID ditches use the riparian corridors to return water to Break Creek.
2. Delineate TID leakage.
3. Are we allowing storm drainage to create high water events for downstream users?
4. No safe place for kids to play by increasing the setback.
NEXT STEPS
Stromberg stated that Staff will take into account what has been heard this evening. The Planning Commission will need to
review the rationale for why we are doing this. Dotterrer said he would like to know what is dictated by state and federal
regulations. Marsh plans to walk a lot of properties before the next meeting, and asked for a map.
PLANNING COMMISSION RULES
Stromberg noted the Planning Commissioners have all been provided with a copy of the proposed Planning Commission Rules.
They are not discussing tonight. It is required to have the Rules presented at a public meeting 14 days prior to making a
decision. Stromberg noted three changes:
1. The existing Rules call for an election of officers the first meeting in May. We have two new commissioners coming
on and he would like to consider moving that to the first meeting in June.
2. Quorum. There is a conflict with the Powers and Duties Section of Chapter 2 of the AMC. In order to pass a
recommendation on an ordinance change, the Commission has to have five affirmative votes. That language will be
incorporated into the Rules.
3. They will formally adopt the ability to extend public hearings to 10:30 p.m.
The Rules will be discussed at the next meeting.
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ADJOURNMENT
– The meeting was adjourned at 9:45 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by,
Sue Yates, Executive Secretary
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VIII. UNFINISHED BUSINESS
IX. OTHER