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ASHLAND PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
DECEMBER 9, 2008
AGENDA
I. CALL TO ORDER:
7:00 PM, Civic Center, 1175 E. Main Street
II. ANNOUNCEMENTS
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
IV. CONSENT AGENDA
A. Approval of Minutes
1. November 6, 2008 Planning Commission Meeting
2. November 12, 2008 Planning Commission Meeting
B. Adoption of Findings for 2200 Ashland Street, PA #2008-00911
V. PUBLIC FORUM
VI. TYPE II PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. PLANNING ACTION: 2008-00911
SUBJECT PROPERTY: 2300 Siskiyou Blvd.
APPLICANT: Steve Asher
DESCRIPTION: A request for Site Review approval to construct thirteen condominium units
for the property located at 2300 Siskiyou Boulevard. Also included are requests for a Physical
& Environmental Constraints Review Permit to allow tree removal and parking space
installation on Flood Plain Corridor/Riparian Preservation Lands adjacent to a culverted
section of Clay Creek; Tree Removal Permits to remove 36 of the site’s 78 trees; and an
Exception to Street Standards to not install sidewalks and curbs along Siskiyou Boulevard
frontage. (The approval of this application would replace the previous Performance Standards
Options subdivision approval from PA #96-131).
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION: Low Density Multi Family Residential; ZONING: R-2;
ASSESSOR’S MAP #: 39 1E 14 CA; TAX LOTS: 7700, 7800, 7801, 7802, 7803, 7804, 7805, 7806,
7807 and 7808.
1. Adoption of Findings
B. PLANNING ACTION: 2008-01517
SUBJECT PROPERTY: 232 Vista Street
APPLICANT: Kerry KenCairn
DESCRIPTION: A request for a Minor Land Partition, a Type II to Variance to the requirement
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that the new lot have a paved 20-foot wide access or an unpaved 20-foot wide access with less
than 10 percent slope, and a Physical and Environmental Constraints Permit for development
and tree removal on Hillside Lands.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION: Single Family Residential; ZONING: R-1-7.5;
ASSESSOR’S MAP #: 39 1E 09BC; TAX LOT: 7500
VII. OTHER BUSINESS
A. Select Planning Commission Representative for the Interchange 14 Bridge Design Review
Committee.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
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ASHLAND PLANNING COMMISSION
SPECIAL MEETING
MINUTES
NOVEMBER 6, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
Commission Chair John Stromberg called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Civic Center Council Chambers,
1175 East Main Street.
Commissioners Present: Staff Present:
John Stromberg, Chair Bill Molnar, Community Development Director
Michael Dawkins Maria Harris, Planning Manager
Mike Morris April Lucas, Administrative Assistant
Pam Marsh
Melanie Mindlin
Dave Dotterrer
Michael Church
Absent Members: Council Liaison:
Tom Dimitre Cate Hartzell
Debbie Miller
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Community Development Director Bill Molnar reminded the Commission of their December 18, 2008 Study Session.
He also announced the City Council Public Hearing on the Water Resource Protection Zones Ordinance has been
tentatively scheduled for January 20, 2009.
PUBLIC FORUM
No one came forward to speak.
TYPE III PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Water Resource Protection Zones Ordinance
Staff noted the following items were submitted to the Commission at the beginning of the meeting:
Memo from Parks & Recreation Director Don Robertson which listed questions and concerns about the use of
herbicides, equipment weight restrictions, vegetation replanting requirements, and annual reviews.
Email from Eric Bonetti questioning where the centerline would be measured for creeks with more than one
channel.
Email from Councilor Hartzell regarding the herbicide issue.
Emails from Commissioner Miller.
Stromberg noted the discussion outline that was used at the last meeting and clarified they would pick up where they
left off.
Enforcement & Penalties
Planning Manager Maria Harris stated language was added that references the General Penalties section of the
Ashland Municipal Code, which outlines the procedure for citations and fines. This section also includes language
requiring an owner to re-establish the natural condition when a water resource protection zone is illegally altered and
language that allows the court to impose additional fees for enforcement costs incurred by the City.
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Comment was made questioning how this would be enforced, and whether penalties for intentional violations would
differ from accidental incidents. Suggestion was made that staff should attempt to work with the property owner to
remedy the situation before issuing a citation.
Mr. Molnar clarified this ordinance would be enforced by the City’s Code Compliance Officer. City Attorney Richard
Appicello commented on the General Enforcement section of the Ashland Municipal Code and clarified the maximum
fine that can be applied according to the City Charter is $500; however, the Commission could set a minimum fine for
intentional activities if they desire.
The Commission discussed the proposed language. Concern was expressed with the requirement that regardless of
the violation, the property owner is required to submit a mitigation plan prepared by a natural resource professional.
Staff acknowledged the Commission’s concerns and suggestion was made to modify Section 18.63.140(B) to read,
“Within thirty days (30) of notification by the City of Ashland Planning Division of a violation of unauthorized alteration
of native vegetation or disturbance of land, mitigation shall be required, and the staff advisor may require a mitigation
plan prepared by a natural resource professional.” The majority of the Commission indicated support for this section
as modified.
Removal of Invasive Vegetation
Ms. Harris noted Ecologist Jeannine Rossa’s testimony that it is safe to use glyphosate without surfactants in the
riparian area, and Mr. Robertson’s concerns that this ordinance might prohibit the Parks Department’s use of
herbicides. Staff indicated a compromise might be to allow use of this type of herbicide only if it is applied by a
trained professional. Ms. Harris noted the report on Managing Himalayan Blackberries that was sent out to the
Commission and clarified the findings indicate the most effective treatment for blackberries is mowing or cutting down
the canes and then treating them with herbicide. She stated this report makes the case that it is better to remove
blackberries in riparian areas and replant with native vegetation since blackberries do not provide significant shade,
have shallow roots, and don’t allow any new trees or shrubs to be established in the area where they have taken
over.
Dawkins voiced his opposition to the use of herbicides and commented that DDT is a good example of a product that
was suppose to be really good, but turned out to be harmful. He also disagreed with the proposed removal approach
and stated in his experience, the most effective way to eradicate blackberries is to cut them down and dig out the
roots. He also shared his concerns regarding bank instability once the blackberries are removed.
Stromberg noted the email submitted by Councilor Hartzell and asked if the Commission would allow Hartzell to
share her input. Staff recommended the public hearing be re-opened if the Commission wants to allow her to speak.
Stromberg re-opened the public hearing at 7:44 p.m.
Councilor Hartzell noted the testimony from Rick Landt who told the Commission about successfully removing
blackberries manually. She also noted a study that found that blackberries can come back after herbicide application.
She clarified her email spoke about toxicity and how it affects waterways and noted the proposed ordinance is
suppose to protect the water and habitat; blackberries should not be the main objective.
Stromberg asked if anyone else wished to provide testimony and then closed the public hearing at 7:47 p.m.
The Commission continued their discussion on whether to permit herbicide use. Mindlin noted the ordinance requires
a Type I application approval before herbicides can be used. She commented on trying to find a compromise to the
issues raised and suggested the ordinance be modified to include the following: 1) only allow glyphosate without
surfactants herbicides, 2) application of the herbicide could only be done by a certified professional, 3) include a
limitation on the number of herbicide re-applications, and 4) include language that encourages repeat mowing as a
method for removal. Dawkins indicated he is against the use of herbicides, but is willing to compromise and is
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comfortable with Mindlin’s suggested amendments. Staff clarified the Parks & Recreation Department would be
required to file an application; however, it may cover a longer period of time. It was also clarified the cost for a Type I
application is approximately $900. Dotterrer expressed concern with this cost. Marsh commented that this would
discourage homeowners to use herbicides to remove a minimal amount of blackberries, but would allow herbicide
use in the more extreme situations. Comment was made questioning how the Parks Department applies herbicides
and some concern was expressed with spraying rather than dabbing on the product. Mr. Molnar commented on the
expenses associated with a Type I approval process, including the noticing requirements and the staff time spent
responding to citizens. He also noted there is a provision in the ordinance that allows the fee to be reduced for
restoration enhancement activities. Ms. Harris re-stated the four proposed amendments outlined by Commissioner
Mindlin and the majority of the group indicated support for this section as amended.
Hardship Variance
Ms. Harris indicated the ordinance is required to include a hardship variance. It was clarified this would be a Type II
action and would come before the Planning Commission for approval.
Creeks with More than One Channel
Staff was asked to respond to Mr. Bonetti’s email questioning where the centerline would be measured for braided
creeks. Staff indicated the ordinance is currently silent on this issue, but they could include language if the
Commission desires. Mr. Molnar commented on how other communities address this issue and stated in these
instances measurement is typically taken from the center of the braid. Support was voiced for clarifying this in the
ordinance. Mr. Molnar noted there are situations were there is a dominant channel, and there may be a need for
judgment in some cases. Suggestion was made to include language that indicates where there is an unusual creek
bed, staff will visit and evaluate the site. The Commission voiced support for including language to this effect in the
ordinance.
Setback Issues
Stromberg reviewed the setback issues listed in the discussion outline. Staff clarified the reduction provision
associated with 18.63.080 states up to 50% and only the minimum amount needed would be granted. Comment was
made questioning whether staff would be allowed to take the size of a house into consideration when determining the
appropriate reduction. Mr. Molnar clarified staff generally does not take into account the size of the house, but
evaluates the size of the buildable area outside the protection zone. He added the ordinance states any adjustment
to the protection zone would only be the minimum amount necessary to accommodate the use. Ms. Harris
commented on the Top of Bank issue and clarified the ordinance was amended to include physical characteristics to
help identify top of bank.
Activities Issues
Stromberg reviewed the activities issues listed in the discussion outline. Ms. Harris clarified the replanting standards
were changed to indicated a minimum plant size of 4 inches for ground cover, the ¾ in. caliper for tree size was
removed, and the requirement to identify the plant sources and suppliers was removed. She added staff did not make
any changes addressing the canopy tree planting configuration. Recommendation was made to include language
that provides staff the ability to approve a different configuration so long as the canopy issue is addressed. Ms. Harris
noted the previous language that was inserted into the ordinance and suggested they reinsert the following
statement, “Canopy trees shall be planted at 20 ft. intervals or such other interval as required to install materials
required for tree mitigation …” Support was voiced for replacing this language as suggested by staff.
Council Liaison Hartzell left the meeting at 8:50 p.m.
Comment was made questioning the ability for backyard food production in the riparian zone. Staff clarified this would
be permitted in the 50/50 zone. It was also questioned if a property owner would be permitted to protect this area with
fencing. Mr. Molnar commented on the floodplain regulations and stated solid fences are restricted within 20 ft. of the
floodplain. It was questioned if other types of fencing might be acceptable in riparian areas. Ms. Harris stated the idea
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is for fencing to be generally prohibited, but they could make an exception for deer fencing in specific cases. The
Commission discussed what type of fencing might be acceptable and where it could be located. Comment was made
that this issue also pertains to people who might want to install fencing for other reasons besides garden protection in
the riparian zone. There was agreement among the Commission to prohibit solid wood fencing and Staff was directed
to develop ordinance language that would permit open fencing in the 50/50 use area.
The Commission continued their discussion of the activities issues and whether the ordinance should restrict a
property owner from rebuilding a structure in the same location if it has been damaged by a flood for the second time.
Comment was made that such a provision is not necessary and if someone’s house is washed away twice, they are
not going to want to put it back in the same place if they can avoid it. Dawkins noted that he can’t remember a single
case since 1955 where this has been a problem.
Apply Proposed Ordinance to Specific Sites
Staff commented on two sites the Commission visited during their site visits. In regards to Mr. Brambacher’s property
on Tolman Creek Rd, he will be able to continue to manage his property as is. However if he wishes to make
changes to the channel, that would trigger the requirements of the proposed ordinance. And in regards to the
Duncan’s property, this ordinance is not going to affect the landscaping work they have already completed. They will
be able to leave their landscaping in place and maintain it.
General Issues with the Ordinance as a Whole
Stromberg read the issues listed on the discussion outline aloud. Staff provided clarification that the concerns raised
by the Public Works and Parks Departments have already been addressed in the ordinance. Mr. Molnar added the
Planning staff will continue to keep these departments abreast as this ordinance moves forward. The Commission
briefly reviewed the remaining issues and no changes to the ordinance were proposed.
Commissioners Morris/Dotterrer m/s to extend meeting to 9:45 p.m. Voice Vote: all AYES. Motion passed.
Recommended Additional Programs or Actions
Mindlin provided an explanation of the stormwater infiltration and rainwater catchment issues and read aloud her
proposed recommendation which was submitted to the Commission at their last meeting. Comment was made that
this language may be too specific and recommending the Commission make a more general recommendation to the
Council instead. Marsh suggested they include a note to the Council explaining this issue came up and the
Commission agreed that while this issue is much broader than the scope of the ordinance, it should be placed on the
City’s agenda. Mindlin felt this language was too vague and voiced her preference to use the language she drafted
instead. Suggestion was made to take Mindlin’s language and add Marsh’s proposed statement to the end. The
Commission voiced their support for this combination.
Mindlin commented on her second recommendation which addressed the need for ongoing assessment of the native
plant requirement. She recommended the City conduct an on-site review of the projects permitted under this
ordinance every three years to determine how well the native plants are performing. Church commented that they
may want to recommend that the entire ordinance be reviewed, not just the plantings. Dotterrer noted the Stream &
Enhancement Guide (which includes the native plant list) will likely be evaluated and updated periodically, and
questioned if they could use this instead of a mandatory site visit by staff. Dawkins questioned if there was a way to
bring the Parks Department into this since they have the immediate expertise and may be able to help evaluate.
Mindlin clarified she is not attached to the methodology of how this is completed, but does believe this needs to be
reviewed. Stromberg summarized the intent of this recommendation is to review not only the native plants list, but
also the usability of it in actual situations, and somehow involve the Parks Department with this process. Church
suggested an additional recommendation that states, “Three years from the effective date of the ordinance, staff will
field check all projects that have been subject to the ordinance and report to the Commission on the effectiveness of
the provisions.” Suggestion was made to incorporate both of these concepts into one recommendation. Church
suggested the language, “Three years from the effective date of the ordinance, staff will field check projects that have
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been subject to the ordinance and report to the Commission on the effectiveness of the ordinance, including review
and usability of the native plants list.”
Commissioners Dotterrer/Marsh m/s to extend meeting to 10:00 p.m. Voice Vote: all AYES. Motion passed.
Commissioners Marsh/Morris m/s to recommend approval to the City Council of adoption of the ordinance
adding Chapter 18.63 Water Resource Protection Zones to and modifying Chapter 18.62 Physical and
Environmental Constraints of the Ashland Land Use Ordinance with the amendments and changes as
delineated in the meeting minutes and noted by staff. DISCUSSION: Dotterrer provided an explanation of why he
will be voting no on this ordinance. He expressed his concerns with the way this ordinance was developed and felt
citizens will find the ordinance confusing and difficult to implement. He voiced his support for staff’s efforts, but does
not think this is a model for how they should be doing business. He felt the Commission failed to define what the
problem was and wished they would have established water quality baselines so that it would have been possible to
determine whether or not this ordinance improves the City’s water quality. Roll Call Vote: Commissioners Marsh,
Mindlin, Morris, Church, and Stromberg, YES. Commissioners Dotterrer and Dawkins, NO. Motion passed
5-2.
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 9:55 p.m.
Respectfully submitted by,
April Lucas, Administrative Assistant
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ASHLAND PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MINUTES
NOVEMBER 12, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
Commission Chair John Stromberg called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. in the Civic Center Council Chambers, 1175 East
Main Street.
Commissioners Present: Staff Present:
John Stromberg, Chair Bill Molnar, Community Development Director
Michael Dawkins Derek Severson, Associate Planner
Mike Morris Angela Barry, Assistant Planner
Debbie Miller Richard Appicello, City Attorney
Pam Marsh April Lucas, Administrative Assistant
Melanie Mindlin
Dave Dotterrer
Michael Church
Tom Dimitre
(Arrived at 7:25 p.m.; joined the meeting after the first public hearing at 9:45 p.m.)
Absent Members: Council Liaison:
None Cate Hartzell, absent
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Community Development Director Bill Molnar reminded the Commission there is a Study Session scheduled for December 18,
2008. He also introduced Mike Faught, the City’s new Public Works Director.
APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Commissioners Dotterrer/Church m/s to approve Agenda. Voice Vote: all AYES. Motion passed.
CONSENT AGENDA
A.Approval of Minutes
1. October 14, 2008 Planning Commission Meeting
2. October 28, 2008 Planning Commission Meeting
B.Approval of Findings for 281 Fourth Street, PA #2008-01526
Church noted an error on the October 14, 2008 meeting minutes \[under Planning Action 2008-01526, Ex Parte Contact\]. He
stated Dotterrer is not listed and he is listed twice.
Commissioners Miller/Dotterrer m/s to approve Consent Agenda. Roll Call Vote: Commissioners Dawkins, Dotterrer,
Church, Marsh, Miller, Mindlin, Morris, and Stromberg, YES. Motion passed.
PUBLIC FORUM
No one came forward to speak.
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TYPE II PUBLIC HEARINGS
Stromberg read aloud the public hearing procedures for land use hearings.
A.PLANNING ACTION: 2008-01318
SUBJECT PROPERTY: 2200 Ashland Street
APPLICANT: Coming Attractions Theatres
DESCRIPTION: Request for Site Review approval to redevelop the existing 5,418 square foot, single-story
office building located at 2200 Ashland Street into an 18,791 square foot, three-story office and retail building.
The property is located within the Detail Site Review Zone and the development is subject to the Additional
Standards for Large Scale Projects and Ashland Boulevard Corridor Design Standards. Also included are
requests for: Administrative Variance to the Site Design and Use Standards and Exception to Street Standards
relating to the reconfiguration of off-street parking between the building and Ashland Street and to Ashland
Street improvements, and Tree Removal Permit to remove six trees greater than six-inches in diameter-at-
breast-height.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION: Commercial; ZONING: C-1; ASSESSOR’S MAP #: 39 1E 14 BB; TAX
LOT #: 300.
Declaration of Ex Parte Contact
No ex parte contact was reported. Dawkins and Stromberg both stated they performed site visits since the last hearing.
Staff Report
Associate Planner Derek Severson noted this item is a continuation from the October 14, 2008 meeting. At that meeting, a
request was made by Evan Archerd to extend the public hearing so that he could familiarize himself with the project and
provide input. Mr. Severson explained the median was the main issue that came up during that hearing and clarified the
proposed median would restrict left hand turns from the proposed driveway onto Ashland Street and would also restrict left
hand turns from Clay Street onto Ashland Street. Mr. Severson stated the notice area for this planning action was extended
and the residents on Clay Street were provided notice of tonight’s hearing. He also commented on the revised findings which
were distributed to the Commission at the beginning of the meeting, and noted the modifications that were made to Condition
3(L) and Condition 6.
Public Works Director Mike Faught came forward and introduced Marc Butorac with Kittleson & Associates Transportation
Engineering. Mr. Faught clarified Kittleson & Assoc. was hired by the City to review the application, findings, and traffic studies
for this planning action.
Mr. Butorac addressed the Commission and noted the Transportation Impact Analysis and Access Management Review
Memo that was submitted to the Commission at the beginning of the meeting. He explained the intersection of Clay and
Ashland has site distance issues and operational safety issues, and stated they concur with the need to restrict left hand
turning movements. He commented on where the existing south bound left turning movements from Clay Street would be
diverted to if the median were installed, and noted their concern of vehicles making u-turns on Ashland Street without
sufficient site distance. He also indicated traffic coming from I-5 would also need to turn around in order to access the
proposed development. For this reason, they are recommending a raised median be installed between Clay and Faith Streets
which would enable vehicles to make their u-turn at the Faith. He stated this is consistent with the City’s Transportation
System Plan and recommended a reimbursement agreement between the City and the Applicant.
Tom Dimitre arrived at 7:25 p.m. and indicated he would wait in the lobby until the next hearing.
Mr. Butorac commented on the need for an east-west connection between Tolman Creek Road and Clay Street, and stated
this connection would minimize the number of u-turns on Ashland Street. He recommended the City review this possibility
separate from this application. Mr. Butorac noted the commercial uses in the area and clarified larger vehicles, including
buses, moving vans and semi-trucks would not be able to turn around at Faith Avenue due to the width of the street.
It was clarified vehicles would still be able to make left hand turns from Faith Avenue onto Ashland Street. It was also clarified
it is not possible to restrict left hand turns from Clay Street, but allow left hand turns into the project site because Ashland
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Street is not wide enough to accommodate the vehicle storage space that would be needed. Comment was made questioning
if there is an alternative to the u-turn at Faith. Mr. Butorac stated the ideal alternative is the east-west connection, which would
significantly reduce the need for making a u-turn at Faith. He clarified the volumes on Ashland Street are not an issue; it is the
reduced site distance caused by the overpass that are creating these issues. Church commented that the site distance at the
Faith and Ashland intersection is also an issue, and if you add in u-turns that could significantly affect this intersection. Mr.
Butorac noted the vehicles making u-turns at Faith have plenty of site distance since they are looking at opposing east bound
vehicles, but acknowledged Church’s concerns and stated the site distance issue affects both ends of the overpass.
Mr. Butorac commented that the City does not have the most desirable street system in this area; however installing a median
would diminish the existing safety issue. He stated the system would be aggravated slightly at the Faith intersection, but on a
whole, the Applicant is maintaining or slightly improving the current system. However, for future development to occur in this
area, he recommended the City create an additional connection between Tolman Creek Road and Clay Street.
David Pyles and Dan Dorrell with the Oregon Department of Transportation (ODOT) addressed the Commission and
summarized their letter that was handed out at the beginning of the meeting. Mr. Pyles stated ODOT concurs with the
Applicant’s Facts, Findings and Conclusions in their Traffic Impact Study, which identifies the need for a median at this
location. He stated the scale of the identified improvement is in proportion to the proposed development. Mr. Pyles noted there
has been development in this area over the past several years that has bumped up the need for mitigation in this area. He
also noted the potential future development on the north side of Clay Street and clarified with or without this project, there is
development pressure that is creating this issue. Mr. Pyles concluded his testimony by clarifying the two key conditions of
approval that they have requested are: 1) the condition for the raised median, and 2) the condition for the legal access permit.
Dan Dorrell commented on why it is not possible to allow a left hand turn into the proposed development. He agreed with Mr.
Butorac’s assessment and stated there is not enough vehicle storage space. He clarified the concern is that the vehicles
waiting to make this left turn could back out into the west bound traffic lane. Mr. Dorrell also provided a brief explanation of
what the channelized median would look like and clarified it would be signed appropriately to help prevent driver confusion.
Marsh questioned if this section of Ashland Street would be included in the study being completed for the Exit 14 Interchange
Area Management Plan (IAMP) and asked if the proposed mitigation is consistent with that project. Mr. Pyles stated the IAMP
for Exit 14 does not look at an access management strategy west of Tolman Creek Road. However, there may be an
opportunity to include this type of system level planning in the final recommendation for the TSP system analysis. Or, it could
be done as a follow up, or some type of refinement plan that updates the City’s Transportation System Plan. He clarified this
type of system level planning is different from the study being completed for the IAMP.
Applicant’s Presentation
Mr. Knox agreed to allow a few members of the audience who had time constraints to give their testimony first.
Public Testimony
Greg Jones/641 Faith Avenue/Stated he is not opposed to the proposed development and believes this is a good thing for
the area. However, the proposed median and u-turns that would occur at Faith would make one of the City’s worst
intersections even worse. Mr. Jones stated he has spoken to staff, the City Council, and the Traffic Safety Commission about
the problems at Faith and he has yet to see any type of study or mitigation for this area. He stated there has got to be another
solution and warned them about creating a worse situation at Faith.
Robin Jokinen /311 E. Hersey Street/Stated she is a small business owner and does deliveries throughout Ashland. Ms.
Jokinen explained she has been using Clay Street for 25 years and has never had a problem making a left turn onto Ashland
Street. She noted the alternate routes available and explained she does not use Oak Street because of the speed bumps,
does not use North Mountain because of the high school and college students, and avoids Walker because of the elementary
and middle school. Ms. Jokinen reminded the Commission of the fatal accident that occurred at the intersection of Faith and
Ashland and questioned if the proposed development could be accessed from behind the Oil Stop to prevent the median from
being installed.
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Applicant’s Presentation
Mark Knox/ 485 W Nevada Street/ Applicant’s Representative/Stated the Applicant agrees with the conditions proposed by
staff and ODOT and clarified when they are able to obtain an easement through the Bi-Mart shopping center, the Applicant is
willing to pave the driveway to make that connection. Mr. Knox noted the amount of time the Applicant, staff and ODOT has
spent working on the median issue and stated no one is taking this situation lightly. He stated the Applicant is willing to pay for
their fair share of the median and stated the turning movements out of this site are dangerous with or without this application
going through. He clarified it is not this application that is creating the problem and noted ODOT could decide to go in and
install the median on their own. He clarified this is a safety issue and stated they do not want to put anyone is a position that is
unsafe.
Mr. Knox clarified where the property line ends and where the fencing would be located. Dawkins expressed concern with
individuals not being able to connect to the bike path. He stated people will not be inclined to create a new informal path on
the slope and stated it would be great if the Applicant could obtain a partial easement for this.
Miller questioned the likelihood of the Applicant getting permission from the Bi-Mart shopping center to access the
development site. Mr. Knox noted the informal access that exists today, but clarified they have not yet obtained a legal access
from the Oil Stop property. He stated the shopping center is a conglomeration of 17 different owners and it is difficult for this
group to come to a decision.
Public Testimony (Cont.)
Mike McGuire/321 Clay Street #51/Stated he would like to continue to be able to make left hand turns from Clay Street onto
Ashland Street. He stated he would like to see this development move forward, and stated if the Applicant could get an
easement behind the Oil Stop, this would solve the problem.
Helen Leider/321 Clay Street #34/Voiced her concerns with losing access to Ashland Street from Clay Street. She also
expressed objection to the noticing that was performed by staff. Ms. Leider stated the proposed median would cause more
driving and would affect her quality of life. She noted the upcoming development on Clay Street and stated the City needs
more arteries to deal with the traffic.
Elise Thiel/321 Clay Street #19/Stated she is not against to the proposed building, but would oppose this application if it
means left hand turns onto Ashland Street would no longer be allowed. She commented on how this proposal would affect the
Faith intersection and noted there are a lot of pedestrians who cross at that location. Ms. Thiel voiced her support of retaining
the left hand turns from Clay onto Ashland and suggested the City deny any new buildings for this area until an overall traffic
study has been completed. She added she hopes the Applicant will be able to gain access to their property from the Oil Stop.
Evan Archerd/2200 Ashland Street/Commented on the importance of supporting local businesses, but stated approving this
application with the median installation would cause harm to those who live and work in that area. He stated the issues that
have been raised by the traffic engineers are accurate, but stated he does not agree with Kittleson & Assoc.’s conclusions. Mr.
Archerd commented on safety and stated there have only been 5 accidents at the intersection of Clay and Ashland in the last
5 years, and 2 of them were on his property and had nothing to do with the intersection. However, there have been 2 fatal
accidents at the Faith and Ashland intersection and voiced his objections to diverting traffic to that intersection instead. Mr.
Archerd commented on the traffic counts, and stated the traffic study was based on approximately 120 new units on Clay
Street; however that development has been reduced to 60 units. Therefore the actual vehicle trips on Clay Street will go down,
not up from what was listed in the study. He also noted the proposed development has a much lower number of vehicle trips
than the hardware store that previously occupied the site. Mr. Archerd stated the proposed median is not necessary and
recommended the Commission approve the application without this condition.
Ron Roth/6950 Old Hwy 99 S/Commented on the driving route he uses daily and stated denying left turn access from Clay
onto Ashland Street does not make any sense. Mr. Roth stated he uses Clay Street everyday, but if the median goes in, he
will have to use Walker instead, and noted the two schools on this road. He stated it would be in the Bi-Mart shopping centers
best interest to provide the easement and stated the existing steep driveway would be impassible in the winter. Mr. Roth
encouraged the Commission to decouple this application from the median issue.
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Russ Dale/230 Wilson Road/Noted the many properties he has been involved with in this area and strongly encouraged the
Commission to approve the proposed development. However, he stated the median is a disaster and stated the Clay/Ashland
intersection works fine without any new impediments. He recommended they approve the project, but remove the median
condition.
Alan DeBoer/2260 Morada Lane/Noted he is the former owner of the property and voiced his support of Coming Attractions
building their headquarters at this location. Mr. DeBoer agreed with the previous speakers that diverting vehicles to make u-
turns at Faith is not a good solution, and stated the proposed median would increase vehicle miles traveled. He recommended
the Commission approve this application without the median requirement, have the Applicant sign in favor of participating in
future improvements, and then direct staff to work on an overall plan for this area.
Dawkins read aloud the written testimony submitted by Donald Abel/566 Faith Avenue/The email stated the traffic
consequences caused by the proposed median have not been adequately considered, and the fact that he was not notified as
an affected party to this change indicates that the larger ramifications were not considered. It stated u-turns are slow and
dangerous and take up both lanes. It also indicated these u-turns will interfere with the traffic on Ashland Street, but will also
interfere with cars turning either right or left off Faith. Mr. Abel urged the Commission to look at this issue more closely and if
necessary do an actual traffic study that addresses the reality of the situation.
Church read aloud the written testimony submitted by Colin Swales/The email questioned whether 4 lanes on Ashland Street
are needed at the Clay intersection, and whether 3 lanes with a central turn lane would be better. It questioned whether
pedestrian crossing and bicycle turning movements were considered in the traffic study, and asked how the median would
affect the intersection of Faith and Ashland. It asked what the traffic impacts would be when all of the Clay Street properties
are developed to their maximum potential and whether ODOT has considered installing a roundabout at this junction to make
turning movements more efficient. It also questioned whether Ashland Street complies with the recently approved changes to
the Street Standards in regards to sidewalk width and protection for pedestrians.
Applicant’s Rebuttal
Mark Knox/Stated if the Planning Commission decides to not require the median, the Applicant would be supportive of that.
However, he cited the 5 traffic engineers who have indicated the median will need to go in, regardless of whether it’s this
application or the next development. He noted the median issue was talked about with Barclay Square and stated safety
matters more than adding one more minute to a driver’s commute. Mr. Knox stated the Clay and Ashland intersection is
operating at a level of service “F”, but the median would bring it to level “B”. He stated he hopes the Commission will come to
the conclusion that this application stands on its own and should be approved, and the median is more of a community issue
that needs to be resolved. He noted ODOT feels strongly that this median needs to go in, and regardless of this project,
ODOT is likely to do this on their own in the near future.
Stromberg closed the Public Hearing and the record at 8:50 pm. He also announced the Vista Planning Action would not be
heard tonight and would be continued to the December 9, 2008 Planning Commission meeting.
Advice from Legal Counsel and Staff
Comment was made questioning how the City can better control the traffic at the Faith intersection. Mr. Butorac explained the
concerns regarding the u-turns at Faith will go away once the new east-west connection is made. He stated the issue at Clay
and Ashland is simple and explained there is 330 ft. of intersection site distance and AASHTO requires 412 ft. He stated this is
a very black and white line. He added while the Faith intersection does have issues, it meets the AASHTO site distance
standards and it also meets City standards.
Church questioned the possibility of severing the requirement for the median from this planning action. Mr. Faught clarified this
is an ODOT facility and it is their jurisdiction, and they are requiring this median. He added staff has looked into this and
concur with the need for the median. Mr. Butorac stated they have a study before them that indicates this intersection is
deficient of site distance; if they defer and any issue (such as a crash) occurs, it puts ODOT, the Applicant, and the City in a
very tenuous situation.
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Miller noted this site has already been in use, and if the proposed development is built as planned, it will have less traffic than
the previous uses. She questioned why these traffic mitigation efforts need to be installed now. Mr. Butorac clarified when this
intersection was originally designed, the standards were different. He added this Applicant is required to comply with the
current standards.
Deliberations and Decision
Commissioners Dawkins/Marsh m/s to approve Planning Action #2008-01318 as written. DISCUSSION: Several
members indicated they would like to discuss dropping the median requirement. Dotterrer suggested they consider removing
Conditions 3(L) and 6. Comment was made voicing support for decoupling these issues and taking a more holistic approach to
the issues on Ashland Street. Comment was made noting the liability issues, and the 5 traffic engineers who have stated this
is an unsafe intersection. Concern was voiced regarding the situation at Faith. Support was voiced for the City to work on a
connection between Tolman Creek Rd and Clay Street. Church commented that in his own experience, the proposed median
would not solve the problem, and would only push the problems down to the Faith intersection. Miller suggested they work
towards putting in arterials before installing the median. She also recommended they hold off on any further urbanization on
Clay Street until some comprehensive traffic arrangements have been made. She added the more growth they allow on Clay,
the worse the situation will get. Dotterrer commented that they are trying to solve a major transportation problem through land
use planning, and this is backwards. Stromberg stated the proposed median would create a new situation at Faith, and they
do not have the equivalent ability to evaluate the danger at that intersection. He added to make the Clay/Ashland intersection
safe, it would make the Faith/Ashland intersection more dangerous. He noted there would be no ability for larger vehicles to
make the u-turn at Faith. He also noted the testimony which indicated the proposed median would divert traffic to Walker
Avenue, which has two schools along it.
Commissioners Dotterrer/Miller m/s to amend motion to remove Condition 3(L) and Condition 6. Roll Call Vote:
Commissioners Church, Dawkins, Mindlin, Miller, Dotterrer and Stromberg, YES. Commissioners Morris and Marsh,
NO. Motion passed 6-2.
DISCUSSION on Main Motion as Amended: Marsh suggested they ask the Applicant to pursue the extension of the
bikepath through their property. Comment was made questioning whether they could legally require this since it would have to
cross the railroad tracks. Mindlin voiced her support for asking the Applicant to have a future access in the event legal access
is granted.
Commissioners Dawkins/Dotterrer m/s to extend meeting to 10:00 p.m. Voice Vote: all AYES. Motion passed.
Commissioners Mindlin/Marsh m/s to amend motion to require the Applicant to provide a future connectivity route to
what is now the informal pathway, connecting to the bikepath and through the property to sites on southeast side, at
such time a legal connection is made.DISCUSSION: Marsh stated they have an opportunity here, and if they do not act on
it, once the lot is developed the opportunity for the path is lost. Mr. Molnar clarified this condition would be activated if and
when there is a legal crossing of the railroad tracks. Miller noted that if this property were to change hands, this condition
would ensure that this future connection happens. Roll Call Vote: Commissioners Marsh, Church, Miller, Dawkins,
Dotterrer, Mindlin, Morris and Stromberg, YES. Motion passed 8-0.
DISCUSSION on Main Motion as Amended: Mr. Appicello clarified it is the Commission’s job to make a defensible decision
and noted the criteria requiring adequate transportation facilities. He recommended the Commission provide clear justification
for their decision so that staff can prepare findings. He also recommended the Commission address what would happen if
ODOT denies the Applicant’s approach permit unless the median is installed. Stromberg clarified the Commission is interested
in the safety of the entire transportation system for this area, not just one intersection. He noted the lack of a sufficient turn
around for larger vehicles at the Faith/Ashland intersection and noted additional traffic would be diverted onto other streets
that have their own hazards. He stated the proposed median focuses on one intersection and does not take into consideration
the effects it will have at the Faith intersection. He also noted the lack of a model to evaluate Faith Street as stringently as the
Clay intersection was evaluated. Mr. Stromberg added it is the Commission’s feeling that what is being proposed is not a
responsible, safe solution. Mr. Appicello recommended the Commission consider including a provision that states nothing in
this approval stops ODOT from granting approach permits with whatever conditions they deem necessary.
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Commissioners Dotterrer/Dawkins m/s to amend motion to include that this approval does not preclude ODOT from
imposing conditions on the approach permit to the Applicant. Roll Call Vote: Commissioners Church, Dawkins,
Dotterrer, Marsh, Miller, Mindlin, Morris and Stromberg, YES. Motion passed 8-0.
Roll Call Vote on Main Motion as Amended: Commissioners Church, Dawkins, Dotterrer, Marsh, Miller, Mindlin,
Morris and Stromberg, YES. Motion passed 8-0.
B.PLANNING ACTION: 2008-00911
SUBJECT PROPERTY: 2300 Siskiyou Blvd.
APPLICANT: Steve Asher
DESCRIPTION: A request for Site Review approval to construct thirteen condominium units for the property
located at 2300 Siskiyou Boulevard. Also included are requests for a Physical & Environmental Constraints
Review Permit to allow tree removal and parking space installation on Flood Plain Corridor/Riparian
Preservation Lands adjacent to a culverted section of Clay Creek; Tree Removal Permits to remove 36 of the
site’s 78 trees; and an Exception to Street Standards to not install sidewalks and curbs along Siskiyou
Boulevard frontage. (The approval of this application would replace the previous Performance Standards
Options subdivision approval from PA #96-131).
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION: Low Density Multi Family Residential; ZONING: R-2; ASSESSOR’S
MAP #: 39 1E 14 CA; TAX LOTS: 7700, 7800, 7801, 7802, 7803, 7804, 7805, 7806, 7807 and 7808.
Declaration of Ex Parte Contact
No ex parte contact was reported. Commissioners Stromberg, Dawkins, Church, Dotterrer, Miller, Marsh and Mindlin all had
site visits.
Commissioners Mindlin/Church m/s to extend meeting to 10:30 p.m. Voice Vote: all AYES. Motion passed.
Staff Report
Associate Planner Derek Severson presented the staff report and provided a brief overview of the project. He noted the
location of the site is on the corner of Bellview and Siskiyou, adjacent to the Ashlander Apartments. Mr. Severson commented
on the 1996 subdivision approval and clarified the current proposal would replace the previous one in its entirety. He stated
this application includes a request to construct 13 condominium units, as well as tree removal permits to remove 38 of the
site’s 78 trees, an exception to the Street Standards to not install sidewalks and curbs along the Siskiyou Boulevard frontage,
and a request to allow parking space installation on Floodplain Corridor/Riparian Preservation Lands.
Mr. Severson noted this application could have been approved administratively; however, staff felt there were issues that
warranted this application coming before the Planning Commission, including: 1) the open space requirement, 2) the location
of the surface parking, and 3) the request for an exception to the Street Standards to not install curbs or sidewalks along the
Siskiyou frontage. He clarified the Applicant is proposing to install street trees and patch the path that currently exists along
the Siskiyou frontage rather than installing a new sidewalk. He stated staff is recommending approval, without the exception to
the Street Standards.
Comment was made noting a newer development down the street does not have a sidewalk in front of it, and applying the
City’s public improvement standards project by project may be causing more problems than it is solving. Additional comment
was made questioning the placement of the open space. Mr. Severson clarified numerically, the Applicant meets the standard;
however, the Commission must determine whether it functionally meets the standard.
Applicant’s Presentation
Mark Knox/485 W Nevada Street/Representing the Applicant/Stated this is one of the most complex projects he has
worked on due to a number of factors including the trees, the shape of the property, and the density. Mr. Knox commented on
the open space requirements and noted they did have to spread this space out, but they do meet the requirements. He added
the minimum requirement is 8% and they are proposing 17.5% of open space. He commented briefly on some of the smaller,
narrower spaces and clarified they were not required to include these areas, but felt the residents would need some extra
space to store some of their things. He added these smaller spaces were never intended to be “recreational spaces.” He
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added if you eliminate these areas, this application still meets the open space requirement. Mr. Knox noted the central green
area and stated they do believe this will be used as a recreational space. He also commented on the improvements to
Siskiyou Boulevard and displayed a photo of a section of the current path. He stated they feel very strongly that this type of
pathway is superior to what is being recommended by staff. He noted it is setback further from the street and provides better
protection to pedestrians. However if the Planning Commission disagrees, he indicated they will comply with the Street
Standards. Mr. Knox clarified they are proposing to install trees and patch the pathway to make it look consistent with the
section shown in the photo.
Carol Sunahara/919 Bellview Avenue #3/Stated the application does not meet the approval criteria for Physical and
Environmental Constraints and does not think it should be approved. She stated potential impacts to the property and nearby
areas have not been considered and adverse impacts have not been minimized. Ms. Sunahara stated the Applicant has not
considered the potential hazards the development may create and stated this area of Siskiyou and Bellview is densely
populated and there should really be a sidewalk and crosswalk there. She also expressed her concerns with the proposed tree
removals and stated these trees are needed to prevent the erosion of Clay Creek.
C.PLANNING ACTION: 2008-01517
SUBJECT PROPERTY: 232 Vista Street
APPLICANT: Kerry KenCairn
DESCRIPTION: A request for a Minor Land Partition, a Type II to Variance to the requirement that the new lot
have a paved 20-foot wide access or an unpaved 20-foot wide access with less than 10 percent slope, and a
Physical and Environmental Constraints Permit for development and tree removal on Hillside Lands.
COMPREHENSIVE PLAN DESIGNATION: Single Family Residential; ZONING: R-1-7.5; ASSESSOR’S MAP #: 39
1E 09BC; TAX LOT: 7500
This item will be continued to the December 9, 2008 Planning Commission meeting.
OTHER BUSINESS
A.Update – APA Legal Issues Forum
This item was not addressed due to time constraints.
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 10:30 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
April Lucas, Administrative Assistant
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PUBLIC HEARINGS