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Budget Committee Meeting
Draft Minutes
May 5, 2005, 7:00p.m.
Civic Center Council Chambers, 1175 East Main Street
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Jim Moore called the Ashland Budget Committee meeting to order at
7:01 p.m. on May 5, 2005 in the Civic Center Council Chambers, 1175 E. Main
Street Ashland, Oregon.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Morrison was present. Councilor Hartzell, Jackson, and Silbiger were
present. Councilor Amarotico and Hardesty were absent. Budget Committee
members Bond, Levine, Mackris, Olsen, Thompson, and Williams were present.
STAFF PRESENT: GINO GRIMALDI, CITY ADMINISTRATOR
LEE TUNEBERG, FINANCE DIRECTOR
KEITH WOODLEY, FIRE CHIEF
MARGUERITTE HICKMAN, FIRE PROTECTION OFFICER
GREG CASE, EMS DIVISION CHIEF
MIKE BIANCA, POLICE CHIEF
RICH WALSH, DEPUTY CHIEF
LINDA HOGGATT, ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES
MANAGER
CINDY HANKS, PROJECT COORDINATOR
BRYN MORRISON, ADMINISTRATIVE SECRETARY
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Approval of minutes from previous Budget Committee meetings dated:
2/10/05Budget Committee Meeting
3/9/05 Social Service Grant Meeting
3/10/05 Social Service Grant Meeting
3/30/05Economic and Cultural Grant Meeting
3/31/05 Economic and Cultural GrantMeeting
James Bond, Budget Committee member/Marty Levine, Budget Committee
memberm/s to approve minutes as presented.All Ayes.
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PUBLIC INPUT
None
Lee Tuneberg, Finance Directorspoke to the memo presented on total budget
comparison clarification. See attached. He stated that there is no policy on the
Parks budget adjusting as the City’s does. He added that there were some
replacement pages also for the committee to insert into the proposed budget and
the budget is available on the website. One of the sections to replace is the
capital improvements section and the other is a few pages in the parks budget.
The YAL was overstated and money was moved into materials and services, 3%
change. This amount was approved by the parks commission.
POLICEpage 3-43 to 3-50
Mike Bianca, Police Chief, Rich Walsh,Deputy Chief and Linda Hoggatt,
Administrative Services Manager, presented the budget. Mr. Bianca spoke to the
items that they asked for at beginning of the process and explained how they
were asked to scale down. He added that no new positions were requested. He
explained the changes in the last few years. Dispatch going to Medford has
saved some money;they have added temp positions, personnel costs have
increased, and have operated at times with many unfilled positions. He added
that the actual figures are somewhat less than what they askedfor because of
unfilled positions and that is not good for service levels.
He spoke to the value of the police department. They will not compromise on
ethics, the law, and the respect of citizens. He identified the priorities of the
community: traffic, street scene and various people that hang out in Ashland.
Councilor Kate Jackson asked to clarify why the contractual services costs have
increased. Mr. Bianca responded that the increase is related to the
communication system and would be $40,000 this fiscal year. Ms. Jackson asked
if they expect contractual services and miscellaneous charges and fees to
stabilize. Mr. Walsh explained that it is based on percentages of police and fire
cases compared to Medford and they cannot predict.
Mr. Bianca pointed to the department summary and explained the change in
divisions. Mr. Levine asked where the youth diversion officer was. Mr. Bianca
responded that it has been renamed community outreach officer and is the same
person with a little different job description. Lynn Thompson, Budget Committee
member asked if Jan Jansen would not be at the high school. Mr. Bianca
explained that their hope is to spend more time there. Ms. Thompson stated that
she is concerned about drug abuse in Ashland and that it seems that we spend
little money on supporting programs on abuse. Mr. Bianca responded that they
invest a significant amount on enforcement. Mr. Levine asked if more money was
spent in this area if less would be needed in enforcement. Mr. Bianca responded
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that it is shocking the elements of crime that happen in Ashlandand it is a good
investment in the long run.
Dave Williams, Budget Committee member asked about the consolidation of
dispatch and what the goal was. Mr. Walsh explained that it would have taken
more man power to run it here than we had and would have been a significant
cost. Ray Olsen, Budget Committee member asked if they had statistics on
response and if could be put in the budget document. Mr. Bianca responded that
some are in the memo that was distributed and they are available.
Councilor Cate Hartzell asked what the cost of state accreditation and benefit
was. Mr. Bianca responded $2,000, 1/3 of FTE staff time and the benefits are
that they have modified policies and provide a foundation for the City and
officers. Mr. Walsh added that it helps with policies being implemented and they
are constantly looked at and revised.
Ms. Hartzell asked about the SRO program and cost and the grant that would
possibly support. Mr. Bianca responded that they cost is $79,000 plus salary and
benefits, $4,500 in support of officer, training, equipment, and material costs. He
also added that the school has not participated in the last few years, but will this
next fiscal year. Ms. Hartzell asked how much time was spent by the officer at
the schools. Mr. Walsh explained that they are in the schools all week, part time
at the high school and part at middle school. He added that the school feels the
program is very valuable to students. Ms. Hartzell questioned that it is more like a
security guard and if the schools are the most dangerous places in town. Mr.
Walsh added that they are looking at having them teach a class. Ms. Hartzell
suggested that theycould provide service to other events and asked how they
will evaluate the position over time, would like performance measures and costs
benefits. Mr. Levine stated that he would like to hear from the schoolwhy they
think the program is important. Mr. Olsen added that they should determine the
benefit to the City and the advantage of being a police officer rather than and non
city officer.
Mayor John Morrison asked if the traffic concern is reflected in the budget. Mr.
Bianca responded that there are no additional vehicles and 2 people in the
department are dedicated to traffic however every uniformed officer is a traffic
officer. Ms. Hartzell asked if the budget correctly reflects the needs of the
department in handling situations. Mr. Bianca responded that it does, but once in
a while no; there are only so many people and so many pieces of equipment.
Mr. Bond sated that the level of vandalism is on the increase and is concerned,
and asked what programs are addressing this. Mr. Bianca responded that they
are seeing sporadic instances and it is not increasing.
Ms. Hartzell asked about the $10,000 increase in communications on 3-49. Mr.
Bianca will look it up and get back to them. Ms. Hartzell asked why there is
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$6,000 in programs this year but not next. Ms. Hoggatt responded that it is the
citizen’sacademythat will not be in the budget in 2006.
Levine/Bond m/s approve of budget as presented. All Ayes.
FIRE AND RESCUE page 3-51 to 3-61
Keith Woodley, Fire Chief, Greg Case, EMS Division Chief, Margueritte Hickman,
Fire Protection Officer presented the budget. Mr. Woodley corrected page 3-56
and the two goals that will not be funded: development of fire safety inspection
program and fire inspection plans review within seven days. He added that the
overall budget is $100,000 less than last year. They are proposing a
reorganization and spoke to the org chart provided. They have proposed the
addition of a third division chief and reduction of the assistant chief which saves
$7,000 per year. The intention is to split EMS from Fire.
They would like to see a fire prevention officer added. Mr. Morrison asked for the
salary range. Mr. Woodley responded $53,408 to $56,287. Gino Grimaldi, City
Administrator added that it is a non management position. Mr. Woodley spoke to
options for funding: increase property tax, or full cost recovery for position.
Councilor Russ Silbiger asked what the cost would be for fire protection. Mr.
Woodley responded double. Ms. Hickman added that they are collected at time
of plan review and it is a percentage of the building plan fee. The range is $100-
$1,000. Mr. Silbiger asked if they could charge for annual inspections. Ms.
Hickman responded that they are not sure that is the best place to charge, there
are many options. Mr. Woodley added that they found that it is common for a city
our size to have two code enforcement people for fire prevention. Ms. Hartzell
asked if they would like 50% recovery of costs and if the proposal is to capture all
costs on new construction. Mr. Woodley responded that the bulk would come
from new construction. Ms. Thompson would like actual cost of additional fee for
prevention officer and how the City will recover the costs. Mr. Grimaldi responded
that they will bring that back to the committee. Ms. Hickman added that it is
based on the cost of the project. Ms. Thompson asked if it was appropriate to ask
the planning commission to raise the permit fee. Ms. Hartzell responded the
budget committee does not make decisions to raise fees, Council will make that
decision.
Ms. Hartzell asked why the budget is $100,000 less than this year. Mr. Woodley
explained that it is due to a reduction in the general fund. Mr. Morrison asked if
not having this position would cause a delay in Community Development
because of the delay in fire prevention plans. Mr. Grimaldi suggested that
question should be addressed in the Community Development presentation.
Mr. Case explained that the City provides ambulance service and bills for
service. The revenue stream has remained flat and call volume has increased.
Ms. Thompson asked if the City applies to Medicare to get reimbursed and the
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City subsidizes the rest. Mr. Case responded that they do and that happens to
all ambulance providers.Mr. Olsen asked how other cities and providers of
ambulance service are dealing with reimbursement. Mr.Case explained that
there is legislation that is trying to support ambulance services and the state will
also try to supplement. Mr. Caseadded that 54% that are transported are
Medicare patients, and 35% also have secondary insurance. Ms. Thompson
asked if the net numbers are the money that goes into general fund after
insurance reimbursements. Mr. Caseresponded that it does go back to the
general fund. Ms.Hartzell asked if they were able to recover more of the costs
for ambulance service. Mr. Woodley explained that they raised the rates in order
to help cover the costs.
Ms. Hartzell asked if the budget supports adequate funding for the CERT
program and if it allows for a change. Mr. Case responded that it does and it only
funds the functional portion of the program. Ms. Hartzell asked if less of the water
fund will be used for the water shed. Mr. Woodley responded that they could not
take full advantage of all of the grants that are available because they have to
show those in totality in the budget and they don’t fit under the caps that have
been established, so if there is a grant that they could apply for, they would have
to show the equal amount available in the fund to reimburse it. He also added
that it is according to Oregon budget law. They have to be authorized to spend it.
Ms. Hartzell asked if they cannot raise the authorization level. Mr. Tuneberg
clarified that each grant is different and they would have to look into that. Mr.
Woodley added that Staff has to manage grants and they are a tremendous
amount of work. He added that the work that they are doing on our own lands will
remain the same but the work on private lands will be limited. Mr. Silbiger asked
about the caps imposed on the budget to balance. Mr. Grimaldi clarified that
they are not capping the grant amount; the problem is matching the grant. Mr.
Woodley added they would have to show enough money in the budget to ear
mark for the grant in order to receive it. Mr. Olsen asked if they could spend the
money if it did not get put in the budget originally. Mr. Tuneberg responded that if
there is a grant that we can obtain 100% funding for, we could ask for a
supplemental budget from Council to meet appropriation levels but they must
perform within the requirement of the grant in order to be reimbursed.
Bond/Thompson m/s to tentatively approve budget as presented. All Ayes.
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 9:04 p.m.
Respectively Submitted,
Bryn Morrison
Administrative Secretary