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Budget Committee Meeting
Draft Minutes
May 11, 2005, 7:00pm
Civic Center Council Chambers, 1175 East Main Street
CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Jim Moore called the Ashland Budget Committee meeting to order at
7:02 p.m. on May 11, 2005 in the Civic Center Council Chambers, 1175 E. Main
Street Ashland, Oregon.
ROLL CALL
Mayor Morrison was present. Councilor Amarotico, Hartzell, Jackson, and
Silbiger were present. Councilor Hardesty was absent. Budget Committee
members Bond, Levine, Mackris, Olsen, Thompson, and Williams were present.
STAFF PRESENT: GINO GRIMALDI, CITY ADMINISTRATOR
LEE TUNEBERG, FINANCE DIRECTOR
KEITH WOODLEY, FIRE CHIEF
MARGUERITTE HICKMAN, FIRE PROTECTION OFFICER
GREG CASE, EMS DIVISION CHIEF
SHARON LAWS, SENIOR PROGRAM DIRECTOR
DON ROBERTSON, PARKS DIRECTOR
JOHN MCLAUGHLIN, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
DIRECTOR
ADAM HANKS, CODE COMPLIANCE SPECIALIST
MIKE BROOMFIELD, BUILDING OFFICIAL
STEVE GEIS, PARKS AND RECREATION
SUPERINTENDENT
SCOTT WHITMAN, STAFF ACCOUNTANT
CINDY HANKS, PROJECT COORDINATOR
BRYN MORRISON, ADMINISTRATIVE SECRETARY
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Approval of minutes from previous meetings dated:
5/2/05 Budget Committee Meeting
James Bond, Budget Committee member/Councilor Kate Jackson m/s to
approve minutes as presented. All Ayes.
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PUBLIC INPUT
none
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, CDBGpage 3-101to 3-108
John McLaughlin, Community Development Director, Adam Hanks, Code
Compliance Specialist, and Mike Broomfield, Building Official presented the
budget. Mr. McLaughlin explained that the department budget resides in the
General Fund;however the Community Development Block Grant is in its own
Fund. He spoke to the services provided and the Planning Commission. He
added that in the Building division on page 3-107, personal services from 2003 to
2006 shows less than a $1,000 change and is only a 1% increase over last year.
This has been accomplished by having building inspectors cross trained and they
had a retirement last year and restructured without refilling the position. They
also have a .2 reduction this year from conservation that is in the Electric budget.
Materials & Services shows a 13% increase and some of it is due to code
change at the state level and some contractual services are contracted out to
others. Mr. Broomfield spoke to the code change and that the state adopted a
process to implement the code encompassing three codes across the county into
one code. Oregon has its own residential code now, called the Low Rise
Residential Code. Mr. McLaughlin explained that the goal is to cover 100% of
building costs through fees. He explained that they have a surplus now in
revenues. Ms. Jackson asked about the retirement of the building inspector and if
there has been an increase in the time needed for inspections. Mr. McLaughlin
explained that building inspections are more predictable than land permits and
they have not seen an increase. Mr. Hanks added that the position was reduced
in the 2005 budget.
Ms. Jackson asked what the miscellaneous charges and fees were. Mr. Hanks
responded facilities, debt service, and central service. Councilor Cate Hartzell
asked if they expect it to go up large amounts each year. Mr. Hanks explained
that central service is assessed city wide. Lee Tuneberg, Finance Director
added that they had to do a significant increase citywide and Engineering and
Community Development make larger payments due to the new building they are
in.
Mr. McLaughlin spoke to the planning division significant increase in support of
planning due to workload. They are proposing two new positions: and Associate
Planner and a Development Services Manger. They will have an operational
audit that will look at workload and the systems in place for handling work loads.
Currently they support 9 boards and commissions and staff is stretched thin. He
added that Council goals are not being completed as quickly as Council would
like. They have a request for proposal out now and there are specific companies
that do planning department audits. Ms. Hartzell asked about the revenues
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projected. Mr. Hanks responded that it would be approximately $122,000 and the
cost of the positions are $112,000. Ms. Hartzell asked how the Code Compliance
Specialist would change. Mr. McLaughlin explained that it will belinked with the
Development Service Manager position and added that position is doing two
different position responsibilities now. Mr. Moore asked if there were any
performance standards to justify increase of 2 positions. Mr. McLaughlin
responded the workload and demand issue. Mr. Moore is concerned that we are
adding employees faster than adding population and asked if housing specialist
position has paid off. Mr. McLaughlin responded that he thinks it has and the City
has increased the number of units per year. He also added that they will not be
able to provide as good of service if they do not fill those positions. Ms. Hartzell
pointed out that the market here reflects the people that live here, but they need
to think of others that come into the community and the turnover and the kind of
activity changes. She doesn’t think they can relate population to increasing
employees. She asked if they are asking for positions contingent on audit. Mr.
McLaughlin believes positions are necessary and audit will show that. If audit
says they are overstaffed, they will not fill the positions.
They are proposing a fee increase to the community development fee and it
operates at a 75% cost recovery. The fee is based upon value of structure and
they charge .9% of valuation now, and are proposing to raise it .2% for a total of
.11%. The total cost of the two positions including benefits is $112,000 and there
is a $128,000 increase in personal services total. The goal is to recover the costs
from the fee increase. Marty Levine, Budget Committee member asked if the
increase in the budget would be offset from the fees. Mr. McLaughlin responded
that it would. Dave Williams, Budget Committee member asked to clarify what
percentage of the cost. Mr. McLaughlin responded 100% through the fee
increase. Mr. Levine asked if the 25% remainder of the costs is in the budget.
Mr. McLaughlin explained that they are not; they are charged and seen as a
benefit to the public. Mr. Levine asked if they had done a study to see if non
recoverables are 25%. Mr. McLaughlin responded that they have not.
Mayor John Morrison asked about the org chart and if Development Services
Manager would report to both Building Official and Senior Planner. Mr. Hanks
responded that it would. Lynn Thompson, Budget Committee member asked
what the over all fee was for building permits. Mr. McLaughlin responded that it
depends on the size and expected construction costs. Ms. Thompson asked for
the overall fee percentage. Mr. McLaughlin responded an average of 6% of
construction cost and an example of a 2,000 square foot house would be
$14,500 in fees. The increase would be approx $350-400. Ms. Thompson asked
if there is a policy to encourage or discourage construction through level of fees.
Mr. McLaughlin responded that there is not and Council has decided not to
subsidize development through system development charges (SDC’s). Ms.
Thompson asked if they had seen any resistance in fees. Mr. McLaughlin
responded that they had not seen resistance. Mr. Hanks added that compared to
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other jurisdictions, that the City is in the lower third and the fees are inline with
the rest of the valley.
Mr. Williams asked what the timeline is for Council goals. Mr. McLaughlin
responded that there is a two year window and they are working on setting a time
frame. Mr. Williams asked if when Council establishes goals, can they estimate
cost and hours needed. Mr. McLaughlin responded that they tell Council what the
timeline would be with existing staff and if it is needed at a faster pace, they
would possibly add a position.Ms. Jackson added that many of the goals have
been in place for many years and many are not built into the budget.
Mayor Morrison left the meeting.
Ray Olsen, Budget Committee memberaskedwhat the railroad project was. Mr.
McLaughlin explained that it is a transportation project to centralize the transit
stop. Ms. Jackson asked to clarify what new planner position is they are asking
for. Mr. McLaughlin responded that it is an associate. They did a reorganization
when the previous Associate Planner left and filled it as an Assistant Planner.
Mr. McLaughlinexplained the Community Development Block Grant budget and
that the amount the City will get through Hudwill remain constant. He explained
that they get approximately $220,000 per year, of that 20% is taken for
administration, and the remainder is allocated to non profits for affordable
housing. 25% goes to the housing officer, 25% to the Assistant Planner. Ms.
Hartzell asked if the City did not receive the funding, if the 25% of the positions
would be funded through other areas. Mr. McLaughlin responded that the
remainder of the positions are funded through general fund but they would have
to bring forward $44,000 from another source.
Jackson/ Williams m/s approve budget contingent on results of audit. All Ayes.
Ms. Hartzell asked to clarify. Ms. Jackson responded that they will not fill the
additional positions if the audit determines they are not needed.
Keith Woodley, Fire Chief, Margueritte Hickman, Fire Protection Officer and Greg
Case, EMS Division Chief spoke to the memo presented. See attached. Mr.
Woodley spoke to the proposal to restore the fire inspector position and the
impact of fees, the proposals for funding options, and the workload and potential
for fee increase. Ms. Hickman spoke to the specifics in memo. Her position
handles many calls regarding planning actions. She helps guide citizens to what
fire requirements are. Ms. Hartzell asked if it was possible to hire a consultant.
Ms. Hickman responded that the people requesting the permits could hire an
architect however architects also come to the fire department for code
regulations. Mr. Woodley added that the consultant or architects need from them
where to position fire trucks, where to place ladders, and operational
requirements only they understand. Ms. Hartzell asked if a fee could be applied
to the permit to capture cost. It is a service that has a demand and people would
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expect to pay for it. Ms. Hickman responded one of challenges is that it may
deter people from asking questions and would cause further time on the back
end. Mr. Levine asked if permits are denied. Ms. Hickman explained that they do
not deny, they put a hold on it and ask to correct problems.
Ms. Jackson stated that the Budget Committee can decide if wants to add extra
position and would like to put off until hears all of the budgets and make a
decision then. Councilor Russ Silbiger preferred to pay for the position through
fees as much as can and let the growth pay for itself. Ms. Hartzell agreed with
Mr. Silbiger.
Hartzell/ Bond m/s to authorize position contingent on it is done on basis of full
cost recovery. All Ayes.
Ms. Thompson stated she is concerned about all the increases in fees and thinks
they should keep that in mind. Mr. Moore stated he is not willing to increase
property taxes for this position. Ms. Hartzell added she supports the position if
the demand is there. If demand is gone, position should be eliminated.
PARKSpage 3-119 to 3-135
Mike Gardiner, Chairman Parks Commission, Don Robertson, Parks Director
presented the budget. Mr. Gardiner spoke to the eight goals in 2005 budgetand
that there is a significant budget increase in the recreation budget due to the
activities that have increased for 2006.
Mr. Gardiner shared the goals for 2006. See attached.
Mr. Gardiner explained how they hope to have a long term agreement with
schools for maintenance of the grounds but they are still in negotiations. He
spoke to personnel increases of an environmental coordinator .4 FTE and the
addition of the senior program of 1.75 FTE. He spoke to the senior program
moving to parks and the belief that it will strengthen services to community. He
added they are looking forward to recommendations from the Charter Review
Committee. Ms. Hartzell asked what they heard from the public on senior
program moving and how the integrity will be maintained. Mr. Robertson
explained that they had a meeting at the senior centerand both he and Rachael
Teige have a long history with senior centers and are strong advocates in senior
centers and programs. There is also an advisory board in place and will remain.
Ms. Thompson stated she appreciated what they do and asked about the YAL
monies being the same as the school maintenance $125,000 and if they could
use it for that. Mr. Robertsonresponded that it is a coincidence and there are
restrictions on use, it cannot go toward physical education related facilities.
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Mr. Levine asked about the $30,000 spent on the lower duck pond and if it was
under budget. Mr. Robertson responded that the originalbudget was $70,000 for
both ponds.
Mr. Bond asked about the skateboard program. Mr. Robertson responded that
they are responsible for the park and monitoring it. Mr. Bond asked about the
usage level. Mr. Robertson responded that they have not done any statistical
gathering of figures but it is a very well used facility. Mr. Bond asked if there was
any data on accidents. Mr. Robertson responded that there us not, and most of
the accidents go unreported. Mr. Bond asked about the insurance implications.
Mr. Robertson explained that they went through a review with providers, and it
was determine that it is a well cared for facility and does little to impact insurance
requirements.
Mr. Levine asked if the costs of the goals were evaluated. Mr. Robertson
responded in February they looked at the costs.
Ms. Hartzell would like to know how their budget is related to meals tax income
and how they use some funds from the General Fund for acquisition. Mr.
Gardiner responded that in the past year they have tried to establish a stream of
revenue and over the next two months, they will look directly at that. Ms. Hartzell
asked if there was no plan now for a large acquisition. Mr. Robertson responded
that there are no deals in place.
Ms. Thompson asked if there is money for lights on the baseball field in the
budget. Mr. Robertson responded all but 35% and that was the condition when
the soccer field was set that they would be responsible for raising the first 35%,
which is $35,000. He explained that the money in the budget doesn’t get spent if
$35,000 doesn’t get raised. Ms. Thompson stated that she is concerned about
the smaller amount of people that use the baseball field rather than soccer field
and the amount they are required to raise. Mr. Bond asked for the position on
maintaining the playground areas at Briscoe and Lincoln. Mr. Robertson
explained that they have maintained all school grounds and the commission feels
strongly that those spaces remain for public playgrounds. Kathleen Mackris,
Budget Committee member asked about status of greenway extension project.
Mr. Robertson responded that they have run into snags on issues with where the
creek lays. Ms. Hartzell asked if the urban forestry is maintained. Mr. Robertson
responded it is. Ms. Thompson asked about plans for an indoor pool. Mr.
Robertson explained that the only public pool in the area is SOU and it needs to
be done on a regional effort for the financial burden. He added that the
Commission is very concerned about it and made it one of their goals. Ms.
Hartzell asked what the fiscal impact is of the golf contract. Mr. Robertson
responded that it previously was 22% of gross, now 18% and they have a better
handle on business practices now.
Bond/Williams m/s to approve the budget as presented. All Ayes.
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ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 9:55pm.
Respectively submitted,
Bryn Morrison
Administrative Secretary