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BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING
FEBRUARY 13, 2008 – PAGE 1 OF 5
Budget Committee Meeting
Draft Minutes
February 13, 2008 7:00 PM
Civic Center Council Chambers, 1175 East Main Street
CALL TO ORDER
The Citizen’s Budget Committee meeting was called to order at 7:08 pm on February 13, 2008
in Council Chambers located at 1175 East Main Street, Ashland Oregon.
ROLL CALL & INTRODUCTIONS
Mayor Morrison was present. Councilor Chapman, Hardesty, Hartzell, Jackson, Navickas, and
Silbiger were present. Budget Committee members Douma, Everson, Gregorio, Heimann,
Slattery, Stebbins and Thompson were present.
STAFF PRESENT: MARTHA BENNETT, CITY ADMINISTRATOR
LEE TUNEBERG, ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES/FINANCE DIRECTOR
BRYN MORRISON, ACCOUNT REPRESENTATIVE
GREG CASE, DIVISION CHIEF-EMS
MARGUERITTE HICKMAN, DIVISION CHIEF-FIRE & LIFE SAFETY
ELECTION OF A CHAIR
Douma/Stebbins ms for Lynn Thompson for chair. All Ayes.
Heimann/Everson ms for Allen Douma for vice chair. Douma/Jackson ms for Bill Heimann for
vice chair. Chapman/Hartzell ms for Dee Anne Everson for vice chair. Heimann and Everson
declined. All Ayes for Douma for vice chair.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Approval of minutes from previous Budget Committee meetings dated:
5/09/07 Budget Committee Meeting
5/17/07 Budget Committee Meeting
5/21/07 Budget Committee Meeting
5/22/07 Budget Committee Meeting
Everson/Silbiger ms to accept the minutes as presented. All Ayes.
PUBLIC INPUT
There was no public input.
The Committee discussed a letter submitted from Karen Darling. See attached. Councilor
Jackson mentioned that someone may need to contact her regarding the county assessment.
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BUDGET OFFICER PRESENTATION OF FY 2008-2009 PROCESS
Lee Tuneberg, Administrative Services and Finance Director spoke to the packet and the
schedule. He pointed to the process of the budget as presented and Oregon budget law. The
Committee approved the presented calendar with the majority of the meetings starting at 6:00
PM. The wrap up meeting may be used by another department other than Public Works if
needed. Martha Bennett, City Administrator suggested that it would be helpful to staff if the
Committee would let them know earlier in the process if they had questions or items that they
would like more information on.
Mr. Tuneberg explained that the Social Service grants would not be part of the process this
year. They were approved in the FY 2007-08 budget and applications for the next cycle will not
be available until the FY 2009-10 budget process. The Economic and Cultural Development
grants would be a part of the process this year. The Committee discussed what the
subcommittee’s direction is for the grants. Mr. Tuneberg explained that the subcommittee is to
follow the established resolution. The final decision on the allocations is adopted with the final
budget and the subcommittee provides tentative allocations. The Committee expressed a desire
for the application process to be electronic. Mr. Tuneberg and Ms. Bennett responded that staff
will look into the possibility of accepting the documents this year electronically and submitting
them to the committee electronically. Allen Douma, Budget Committee Member asked if the
adopted budget could be posted to the web by department rather than as a whole document.
Staff responded that would be possible.
Budget Committee Members Douma, Everson, Heimann, and Stebbins volunteered for the
Economic and Cultural Development grant subcommittee. Councilors Chapman, Hartzell,
Navickas, and Silbiger volunteered for the Economic and Cultural Development grant
subcommittee.
Mr. Tuneberg spoke to the appropriation level for the Library tax being reduced after the election
in the FY 07-08 adopted budget. He spoke to the budget survey that was distributed after the
last process and the low percentage of members completing the survey. The Committee asked
about discussing the ambulance presentation made at a previous study session to resolve
questions they had. Ms. Bennett asked the Committee to send questions regarding that
discussion to staff.
Mr. Tuneberg spoke to the financial report presented and offered to answer any questions the
Committee had. The Committee questioned the budgeted electric surcharge elimination and
electric rate increase. Mr. Tuneberg responded that neither had taken place in this fiscal year.
This will be a discussion of Council in March and staff is waiting for a court mandated pay out
from BPA before raising rates. This will be a one time cash payment and may adjust how the
city will need to raise rates.
Staff spoke to the direction that Council had given them in building the budget for FY 2009
through a slide presentation. See attached. They explained that the budget is in transition and
Council pointed staff toward financial sustainability and employee continuity and retention. They
spoke to the major economic transition and major shifts in cost centers. Fuel is up 150% in the
last three years. Staff expressed to the Committee that they have every confidence in their
ability to manage through this transition.
Mr. Tuneberg spoke to the chart on Ending Fund Balances. This looks at long term projections
and how not raising rates affects the balances. Ms. Bennett explained that staff cannot use the
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same assumptions as in the previous year. The Committee questioned what the increase in
Personal Services would be in 2009. Mr. Tuneberg explained that of the 7% increase in costs,
about 50% is benefits. Mr. Douma felt that the 7% increase was too high. Ms. Bennett explained
that union contracts have had rates behind in the market and now the City is catching up. Mr.
Tuneberg added that the City has been able to keep the costs low by not having all of the
adopted positions filled the entire year. Staff explained that the budget will not be built with any
additional FTE.
It was explained to the Committee that in the past, staff has budgeted to spend down fund
balances in the General Fund, where the savings were a result of vacant positions and under
spending. Ms. Bennett explained that for the first time, the City will have to spend into the fund
balance this year. The departments that were cut last year will spend 97-98% of budgets. By
budgeting so tightly, this leaves no cushion if something unforeseen happens.
Last year the General Fund was cut $750,000. This year the Police department will leave some
positions vacant. It was explained that the City cannot keep rates flat and maintain the existing
service levels. In the General Fund, the City either needs to find new revenue or cut existing
services, for example personnel. Ms. Bennett explained that the natural growth is not happening
like expected. Mr. Tuneberg explained that in March, staff will know better how the increase will
be from last year. The Committee discussed the impacts of the high fuel costs on tourism. Ms.
Bennett explained that staff is trying its best not to assume fuel or any other single factor will
affect tourism. The Committee discussed the Oregon Shakespeare Festival’s projections for
attendance. Ms. Bennett explained that OSF is predicting that they will be at the same or more
than last year. Mr. Tuneberg spoke to the changes in tourism and how people book their trips.
He explained that the City does not have any long term modeling for tourism.
Ms. Bennett explained to the Committee that in this years budget process, they will need to
make some hard decisions. Staff will present their budget and will be required to know how to
explain the different aspects of it. Staff will be prepared to recommend cuts and describe the
impact on citizens. Staff will also be able to speak to the Committee about revenues and rate
increases. It was discussed that every service the City provides has people who care about it,
so if programs get cut, they will have people who come out to the Committee or Council level to
appose. These will be difficult decisions that Staff and the Committee will have to make in
balancing the budget.
It was explained to the Committee that unfunded council goals will be submitted to the
Committee as add packages. The Committee discussed what the word programs referred to. It
was explained that one example of a program in the last years budget was an education
program that was offered at the Nature Center.
Ms. Bennett proceeded to the slide explaining Base Services vs Base Revenue. Base Services
is an optimistic approach and Base Revenue would have a negative affect on morale.
The Committee discussed if there could be more efficiencies throughout the City so the base
revenue approach may work and expenditures could be reduced. Ms. Bennett explained that
would be an assumption that staff is not doing things efficiently, and that staff cannot do things
any more efficiently in some cases.
The Committee emphasized the need for all departments to really know their budgets when they
present to the Committee and be prepare to answer where cuts or adds are appropriate. They
also wanted staff to be prepared to speak to both base services and base revenue. Ms. Bennett
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explained the result of building a base revenue budget and if the Committee does not want to
increase rates, departments will need to sell their budgets to the Committee.
Navickas/Hartzell ms to go with the base services budget approach. Councilor Navickas
added that the Parks Department is having to raise fees in order to keep services and if basic
maintenance is put off, it will increase costs in the long run substantially. He encouraged the
Committee to look at increasing the property tax rate and to listen to staff carefully. The
Committee and Council have kept any excess out of the budget and the departments are
running with a too tight budget.
The Committee discussed where the library portion was in the budget and the community voting
on the Youth Activity Levy and any other library levies that may happen. Staff explained that the
library is shown in the Administration Department budget and they do not expect to need all of
the approved 25 cents in FY 08-09, but will ask the Council to possibly add a third year of funds
and look at a long term option to help the county.
The Committee discussed the question of whether it is realistic to build the budget with
expenses exceeding revenue. Staff explained the need to look at the revenue side in the
beginning of the process. Mr. Tuneberg explained that staff will go through a balancing act , look
at the disconnects, and then the departments will meet with the City Administrator and discuss
what needs to be reduced before the proposed budget goes to the Committee.
The Committee discussed how some revenues are within the City’s control while some are
affected by outside influences. It was discussed that the City, in the past, has chosen not to
increase the property tax to bring in more revenue and that Staff will need to prove why there is
a need to raise taxes and that rate increases are sometimes hard for Council to impose.
The Committee discussed that they need to have a clear picture on what they will be able to add
on or get to keep and not cut, for the tax rate increase. Mr. Tuneberg explained that regardless
of the process, eventually staff will have to deal with gaps or disconnects. He explained that
staff would like to develop the budget with the services they are providing now, and calculate
what the cost is. Then staff will identify any rate increases that will need to happen to balance
that. If they cannot balance the budget that way, they will make cuts and bring those back as
add packages. One of the problems for staff is that if they identify cuts immediately, before
using the preferred approach, it will have a morale implication.
Staff explained to the Committee that the labor contracts dictate the wage increases that are
built into the budget and only non bargaining employee’s rates can be altered.
Ms. Bennett explained to the Committee that if they chose to build the budget using the base
revenue approach, the proposed budget will be presented to the Committee with personnel
being cut. The Committee questioned if that is inevitable and if the City is just deferring the
problem. It was discussed that a good first step would be if the City moved to a budget based
on outcomes, so the community could see what the services actually cost.
It was explained to the Committee that in the previous budget process, the base revenue
approach was used. Staff will not propose a wish list budget. Committee members discussed
the possibility of finding a way to address the growth of expenditures in basic City operations
and building the budget based on the previous year’s actual figures so true costs are known.
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The Committee discussed the need to look at financial sustainability, employee retention, and
institutional knowledge. Ms. Bennett spoke to the visioning process that will take place in the
next few years and that the City should be in a better position after that. Some members of the
Committee felt that staff should be allowed to build the budget the way they think and bring it to
the Committee balanced that way.
The Committee asked Mr. Tuneberg what the difference is in taking the base revenue approach
compared to base services. Mr. Tuneberg explained that the difference would be, it would be
built under capped revenue, and could come with three positions already cut. As apposed to a
budget with no positions cut in the beginning and a list of possible cuts if the Committee did not
want to raise rates or taxes. They would have to prioritize and make cuts.
It was discussed that the City’s long term, internal policies, and levels of service needs to be
looked at. Some Committee members did not want a budget built where only vacant positions
were cut, they wanted to see what the departments really needed to provide the service. It was
explained that staff will be prepared to explain what the impact on the citizens will be if cuts are
made or if services are affected.
Motion passes 8 to 6, Chapman, Everson, Hartzell, Jackson, Morrison, Navickas, Silbiger,
Slattery voted yes. Douma, Gregorio, Hardesty, Heimann, Stebbins, and Thompson voted no.
The Committee was notified that there will be local budget law training on February 27 in White
City. Budget training with Mr. Tuneberg was offered as well as City tours.
Ms. Bennett explained that all public meetings need to be properly noticed and asked the
Committee not to deliberate over emails.
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 10:06 pm.
Respectfully Submitted,
Bryn Morrison
Account Representative
What do we face with the FY
2008-2009 Budget?
Proposed Assumptions
Costs of existing services in the General
FY 2008-2009 Budget
Fund are growing faster than revenues
Other funds also have challenges (Parks,
Budget Committee Initial
Water, Central Services)
Discussion
In General Fund, substantial cuts cannot be
February 13, 2008
achieved without cuts in personnel. This may
also be true in Parks and Central Services.
Fund Balance Projections from
From FY 2007-2008 Budget
Last Year’s Process
Message -General Fund Over Time
ENDING FUND BALANCE CONDITION2004200520062007200820092010201120122013
General Fund
$16,000,000
CDBG Fund
Street Fund - Operations
$14,000,000
Airport Fund
$12,000,000
Capital Improvements Fund
Debt Service Fund
$10,000,000
Water Fund
$8,000,000
Wastewater Fund
$6,000,000
Electric Fund
Telecommunications Fund
$4,000,000
Central Services Fund
$2,000,000
Insurance Services Fund
Equipment Fund
$0
2005 Actual2006 Actual20072007 Actual20082008 Trend
Cemetery Trust Fund
BudgetAdopted
Parks and Recreation Fund
With sale of strawberry
YAL Fund
RevenuesExpenditures
removed on both revenue
Parks Capital Imp Fund
and expenditure side
Exceed EFB TargetTrouble meeting EFB in all areasNegative EFBRequires renewal
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General Fund –Cuts in General Fund –Cuts in
FY 2007-2008 BudgetFY 2007-2008 Budget
Cuts in Fire Department overtime and specialized
Reductions in Staff
training
Budget reduced FTE, including:
Reduced Police Department materials and services
Eliminated Community Outreach Officer
budget
Did not fund Division Chief position
Significantly cut professional services funds in many
Eliminated CERT Asst. Position but left it up to the
departments
Fire Chief to substitute other cost reductions
Eliminated Associate Planning Position
Eliminated Visioning Project funding
Reduced building inspectors to part time.
Delayed hire of several positions, including some
that remain (and will remain vacant)
From 2007-2008 Budget MessageWhy do the assumptions matter?
“Staff balanced the budget without proposing Tone/ nature of building the budget
any increases in taxes, fees, rates, and
Who decides?
charges for FY 2007-2008 beyond those
When do they decide?
approved for FY 2006-2007. As illustrated in
the long-term projects, it is not possible to
hold rates flat and maintain existing service
levels in the long run, largely because most
City programs have required expenses that
are either constant or grow.”(page I-7)
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What proposed assumptions are
What are the givens?
the same as last year?
Staff have to know their budgetsNo new positions in base budget
Staff have to be prepared to recommend cutsNo new programs
Staff have to describe impacts on citizensAll contractual services must be justified
Staff have to fully outline revenue Departments will prepare cut packages
implications
Any new positions or programs will be
considered “add”packages, which will be
Budget Committee has to reconcile revenue/
expenditure discrepanciesprioritized prior to budget message
FY 2008-2009
Base services v. Base revenue
Assumes that all current Assumes that community
Questions, answers, discussion
services are needed by cannot afford or does not
communitywant to pay more
The question is “Can we The question is “Have we
afford to keep doing what cut services too much?”
we’re doing? “
Asks Budget Committee to
Asks Budget Committee to decide that it must tap into
prioritize reductions if cost additional revenue to avoid
of continuing current cuts made by staff that
services are unaffordable.reduce services too much
Optimistic approach for staffNegative effect on morale
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Property Tax Rate per $1000 of
Taxes Compared to Others
Assessed Valuation
2005-062006-072007-08
CityPop.Property Hotel Motel Food andElectricAnything
Tax LevyTax?Bev. tax?Users Tax?else?
Tax RateTax RateTax Rate
Ashland21,430$5.725 yYy
(with YAL)
(not GF)
General Fund1.62190$ 1.70690$ 1.67690$
$4.335 (City)
General Fund- Technology Fee- - 0.17500
Ashland Library Levy0.20000
Forest Grove20,380$5.41ynnPublic safety
levy
Debt Service Fund- 0.17500 -
Parks 2.09280 2.09280 2.09280
McMinnville30,215$5.88ynnLocal gas tax
Ashland Youth Activities Levy1.38000 1.38000 1.38000
1997 Flood Restoration Bonds0.14340 0.04740 0.04590
Klamath Falls20,720$5.442ynnFire District
2000 Flood and Fire Station Bonds0.01720 0.09450 0.09110
Milwaukie20,835$6.5379nnnFire district
2005 GO Bonds - Refinanced- 0.06670 0.06330
($4.0512)
$ 5.563305.25530$ 5.72500$
Less Youth Activities Levy1.38000$ 1.38000$ 1.38000$
Redmond23,500$6.06ynn
TOTAL FOR CITY/PARKS SERVICES3.87530$ 4.18330$ 4.34500$
Central Point16,550$4.4699ynnFire District
Assessed Valuation1,677,271,999$ 1,761,135,599$ 1,853,307,500$
Types of taxes in Ashland
Property taxes broken down
FY 2007-2008 Adopted Budget
Food and
Beverage Tax,
Property Taxes -
$2,032,000
Bonded Debt
Hotel/Motel
Tax, Levies, $357,475
$1,575,000
Property Taxes -
Property Taxes -
General Fund,
Licenses, YAL (mostly
$3,853,236
$185,600
schools),
$2,658,000
Franchises,
All Property
$2,662,100
Taxes,
$10,890,111
Electric Utility
Tax, Property Taxes -
$2,600,000
Parks,
$4,021,400
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