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BUDGET COMMITTEE MEETING
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Budget Committee Meeting
Minutes
May 22, 2008 6pm
Civic Center, Council Chambers, 1175 East Main Street
CALL TO ORDER: The Citizen’s Budget Committee meeting was called to order at 6:00 pm on May
22, 2008 in Council Chambers at 1175 East Main Street, Ashland Oregon.
ROLL CALL: Committee members Chapman, Douma, Everson, Gregorio, Hartzell, Heimann, Jackson,
Morrison, Navickas, Silbiger, Stebbins, Thompson were present.
COMMITTEE ABSENT: Committee Members Hardesty and Slattery were absent.
STAFF PRESENT:MARTHA BENNETT, CITY ADMINISTRATOR
LEE TUNEBERG, ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES/ FINANCE DIRECTOR
BRYN MORRISON, ACCOUNT REPRESENTATIVE
DIANA SHIPLET, EXECUTIVE SECRETARY
APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
Douma/Morrison m/s to approve minutes of April 21, 2008. All Ayes.
DISCUSSION: Hartzell pointed out that even though the minutes stated that Medford no longer wants to
subsidize the dispatch service, there is actually a contract for the current level so subsidize is probably not
the best word, even if it does reflect what was actually said.
Committee member Jackson arrived 6:07 pm.
PUBLIC INPUT
John Stromberg gave information about the struggle between settings. He stated that Council should
provide the Budget Committee with a framework of priorities and policies to guide decision making. He
explained that without guidance it is really difficult for the Committee to make decisions.
BUDGET WRAP UP
Ms. Bennett explained that the Committee should discuss what worked in the process, what didn’t and
what should be done differently next year.
The Committee discussed what worked in the Budget Process. It was agreed that the Staff did a great job
with the Budget Document and the Committee was very thankful to staff for sticking with the suggestion
to continue with service levels.
The Committee suggested that the group should get the audit report and be able to have a meeting to
discuss the auditors. Mr. Tuneberg said the City can notify the group of the meetings so that anyone can
attend.
The Committee discussed the nature of the committee and the challenges they face in this process.
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The Committee thanked the staff for handling the information requests and details so efficiently. Also
appreciated how quickly staff gave updates as the details changed.
The Committee appreciated the budget message.
The Committee discussed working together, some felt divided while others felt that such a diverse group
of people worked well together.
The Committee appreciated the even level of all the department presentations. The presentations have
improved since last year.
The Committee discussed what went wrong in Budget Process. Ms. Bennett explained that The Budget
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document was not done before the first meeting because 3 quarter numbers were not done. The
problems with this are that the Budget doesn’t get looked at as thoroughly, and it takes longer to make
corrections.
Committee member Everson arrived 6:39 pm.
The Committee discussed that presenters should use PowerPoint as an outline for a presentation and not
to read directly from it.
The Committee discussed what to do differently. Ms. Bennett suggested that council drop one of the two
study sessions and would like the Committee to meet twice a week. Also suggested more discussion
upfront and have the department presentations more compressed. The Committee agrees that the staff
schedule is compressed that it would be a good idea to switch the schedules.
The Committee suggested departments have more information in the budget document and have the
departments focus on the information that is already in the budget document.
The Committee stated that department heads need to anticipate any changes and should be prepared to
answer those questions (preferably before they are asked). It was suggested that some of those answers
should be in the budget document. The Committee stated this is the department’s opportunity to explain
their department and what it does which might be lacking if all answers were in the budget document.
The Committee stated that there will always be questions regardless of what is in the budget document. It
is important to accept that there is always a learning curve.
The Committee discussed one of the things that did not work was the meeting that was focused on cuts
without having an end goal. The Committee would like to see more roundtable discussion to figure out
what each member would like to see out of the process, and would like to see answers get solved in a
more efficient way. The Committee stated that the format should be that each item needs to be evaluated
as to it’s own worth. More discussion would be a good change.
The Committee discussed another thing that went wrong was the divide between the immediate budget
and the future year’s budgets. Some members of the Committee were more focused on the future and
others were focused entirely on this specific year’s budget. It would great to find a way to see both short
term and long term impacts for each item.
Some committee members felt uncomfortable with the add and cut packages. Council felt that there
wasn’t enough talk about adds.
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The Committee suggested that council should be making the presentations relating to the add packages
instead of Staff.
The Committee stated the need to look at long-term budget rather than being so focused on this one
budget. Affordability was a constant discussion and felt it was false considering the rental market we
currently have. The Committee discussed frustration with the franchise fees and how they are being used
to save the general fund because the costs of those are hurting the least affluent members of the
Community.
Committee member Morrison left 7:40 pm.
The Committee would like a discussion of property taxes vs. progressive fees and other taxes. The
Committee would also like training on municipal budgeting. The Committee suggested adding one
discussion night prior to having deliberation discussions.
The Committee discussed confusion regarding the Budget Committee’s job versus Council’s job.
Martha suggested a subcommittee of Council members, Parks Commissioners, and Budget Committee
members to convene in the fall to discuss how to tackle long term issues. Particularly those related to
ambulance and parks services.
The Committee discussed the key issues of concern for next year:
Personnel/ benefit costs
Ambulance and Fire Department costs and charges
Utility Infrastructure – capital project needs and long-term financing impacts
Transportation
Use of volunteers
Public private partnership
How other communities deal with Measure 50 constraints
2 Year Budget Process
ADJOURNMENT
This meeting adjourned at 8:36 PM.
Respectfully Submitted,
Melissa Huhtala
Administrative Secretary