HomeMy WebLinkAbout2014-10-28 Budget Committee MinutesBudget Committee Meeting
MINUTES
October 28, 2014
6:OOPM
Siskiyou Room, 51 Winburn Way, Ashland
CALL TO ORDER
Stebbins thanked council and members for appointing new budget members and congratulated
the Mayor, Council and Parks Commissioners on the signing of the Ashland Parks and
Recreation (AP&R) Commissions Memorandum of Understanding and submitted the following
statement;
"I congratulate the mayor, council and parks commissioners on signing a Memorandum of
Understanding (MOU).
You all have been very patient with my insistence that we could not move into productive
discussions in the budget arena until this overarching understanding and agreement between the
two governing bodies was signed.
Although it does not eliminate many of the ongoing issues, it is an important milestone.
It acknowledges and defines unique differences relating only to Parks, thus providing us with a
solid policy base agreed to by both elected bodies from which to move into a Budget Comm.
Discussion.
It eliminates the inference that because Parks is a department, directions taken should
automatically be considered by other departments. Other departments may have creative ideas
worthy of consideration, but they should be presented on their own merits, not because Parks
does it.
As an additional benefit, yesterday the Audit Comm. met with our auditors. Even though the
budget is biennial, the city still has an annual audit. Although the MOU was signed after fiscal
year end, it was prior to the date of the audit report, this eliminating a finding relevant to it. In fact,
Parks has no findings and will not receive a Management Letter. That is a proud achievement
and 1 congratulate them for it.
Roberta W. Stebbins, Chair"
Stromberg welcomed Michael Black the new Parks and Recreation Department Director.
Stromberg requested an item be added to the agenda discussing the upcoming budget timeline.
Steff Steffinger thanked Stebbins for her assistance with the MOU.
ROLL CALL
Present:
John Stromberg
Greg Lemhouse
Rich Rosenthal
Dennis Slattery
Pam Marsh
Mike Morris
David Runkel
Roberta Stebbins
Bill Heimann
Mary Cody
Garrett Furuichi
Traci Darrow
Absent:
Carol Voisin
Denise Daehler
Other Attendees:
Lee Tuneberg
Dave Kanner
Kristy Blackman
Michael Black
Stefani Seffinger
Mike Faught
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Moved/Second
RUNKLE/MARSH
Finance Director
City Administrator
Administrative Assistant
Parks and Recreation Director
Parks and Recreation Commissioner
Public Works Director
Motion to approve the minutes of the Budget Committee meeting dated July 24, 2014 as
submitted.
ALL AYES
PUBLIC FORUM
None
BUDGET DISCUSSION AREAS
Discussion of biennial budget
Stromberg noted that he is no longer interested in reverting back to a yearly budget. He stated
that it's been a good off year and welcomed comments from the committee.
Slattery expressed that he would prefer to see a single year budget and that he believes that a
biennial budget decreases input of the committee. He also stated that he would have like to have
seen the off year utilized better.
Lemhouse noted that he favors the biennial budget and believes the group could be maximized
more. He state that he liked the interim year but doesn't believe a decision can be made after one
cycle.
Marsh agreed that another cycle is needed to experience and also noted that she doesn't believe
the off year was used well.
Runkle stated he feels the committee has lost touch and he would have liked a better briefing on
where the city is at. He also noted that he would like to see more periodic meetings and updates.
Cody pointed out that this is her first year and she has nothing to compare to but she would like to
see more meetings.
Furuichi noted that having not gone through the biennial cycle and being used to a yearly cycle,
he questioned if there would be updates to which Tuneberg responded yes that quarterly reports
are presented at council meetings. Furuichi asked if there was discretion in the budget from year
to year can it be used in the next year. Tuneberg answered yes. Furuichi stated that he would be
in favor of both at this point.
Heimann suggested sending a link to the members for the financial reports.
Rosenthal expressed that he prefers biennial process because it saves staff time and increases
productivity. He noted as a staff member can cover more ground and thinks it should continue.
Heimann stated that he thinks the biennium is a good idea because it gives staff more time to
plan and allows better use of funds. Heimann noted however that he would like to see at least 2
or 3 cycles before making a solid decision. He stated that he feels time was wasted in the off
year and that the committee lacked direction. Heimann would like to see the committee think
about where they can improve for the next off year.
Darrow stated that she would keep an open mind and take this as a learning experience.
Morris stated that he likes the 2 year budget but thinks that committee needs to re think the off
year.
Kanner spoke on behalf of staff and acknowledged that Mark Holden and Mike Faught came to
show support for the biennial budget and also that department heads are unanimous in their
support for remaining with a biennial budget. Kanner reminded the committee that tax payers of
the City of Ashland spend a substantial amount of money to hire staff and that being on a biennial
budget frees up a lot of staff time. He pointed out that a lot of projects would not have been
completed this year if the city were operating on an annual budget noting that it provides flexibility
and it is also beneficial to the tax payers.
Stebbins stated that she was originally opposed to the biennial budget however believes that the
new format works and there seems to have been a seamless transition and she finds no fault with
the process. Stebbins noted that she would like to see the Management Discussion and Analysis
sent to everyone individually. Stebbins also noted that she would like to see the meetings
scheduled in advance.
Stromberg stated that he originally had wanted to revert back to the annual budget however he
now believes that the biennium is very flexible and allows a good period Stromberg expressed
that he would like to see the budget committee meet for 2 — 3 days in the off year and have each
department update the committee to where they are at.
Slattery expressed that while he agrees that this process is most likely preferred by citizens and
staff, citizen oversight is what is important and feels that this has been lost. Slattery stated that he
believes that it is management's responsibility to build a budget every year and cautioned the
committee regarding moving away from citizen oversight. Stebbins asked Slattery if he thought
there was a way for citizen oversight to be available with a biennial budget. Slattery answered
that he does not believe so and that while the current situation works, it is something that needs
to be monitored.
Marsh noted that there was no debrief after the budget was created.
Stebbins suggested holding a meeting the day after the approval of the tax rate
Stromberg reiterated that he would like to see concrete proposals for the off year and to get
council goals/policy ideas in front of the budget process.
Kanner outlined the budget timeline noting that the process will start next month
• November — Budget process begins
• December - Central Service Fund departments figure out their budget so that the COA
can establish central service charges that are built into the operating department budgets
• January — Operating Departments being working on their budgets and the COA make
certain assumptions because it is difficult to predict certain costs at this point.
• February — the budget committee meets to discuss and opine to the budget assumptions.
• January — Revenue projections
• March — Departments present budgets
• May — approval of budget begins.
Stromberg outlined the AP&R budget process and asked Black if they would continue with the
same process. Black responded that they would and Seffinger noted that AP&R have begun
working on an internal strategic plan, pointing approval by November 4, 2014.
Concern was raised over the pending change with the Ashland Fiber Network and what is going
to occur with Comcast incoming. It was agreed that the issue was better discussed at the study
session.
Marsh reminded the group that new steps were approved in the AP&R budgeting process and
would need to be taken into consideration.
Discussion of the Revenue Incentive Program for AP&R was removed at the request of the AP&R
Commission and Mayor Stromberg.
Seffinger noted that some of the items wouldn't work for parks and would affect other areas
negatively and that there needed to be more input from AP&R. Lemhouse stated that he hoped
that this issue can be revisited sooner rather than later. Black responded that they will be meeting
about this soon.
Stebbins requested there not be two separate budgets presented.
Black and Lemhouse stated they would like to see the budget committee meet again and make a
decision on the incentive program. Marsh agreed that it should be approved and become a part of
the new biennial budget. Kanner suggested and it was agreed that this should be presented to
the COA/AP&R joint meeting.
Committee thanked Dennis Slattery for his service.
OTHER BUSINESS FROM THE BUDGET COMMITTEE
None
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 7:15pm
Respectfully submitted
Kristy Blackman
Administrative Assistant