HomeMy WebLinkAbout2015-11-19 Budget Committee MinutesBudget Committee Meeting
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November 19, 2015 6:OOpm
Civic Center Council Chambers, 1175 East Main Street
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at 6pm.
ROLL CALL
Cody
Present
Darrow
Present
Furuichi
Absent
Gates
Present
Lemhouse
Absent
Lucas
Present
Marsh
arrived 6:18
Moran
Present
Morris
Present
Rosenthal
Present
Runkel
Present
Seffinger
arrived 6:13
Stromberg
Present
Voisin
Present
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Runkel noted a change to the motion proposed changes to Parks & Recreation budget (from
5/14/15 Parks Commission memo) should be 13 yes & 1 no.
Moved VOISIN
Seconded GATES
To approve the minutes of the May 21, 2015 Budget Committee Meeting as amended.
ALL AYES
MOTION APPROVED
PUBLIC INPUT
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DISCUSSION ISSUES FOR THE BUDGET COMMITTEE
Review of first quarterly financial report
Tuneberg outlined the financial report for the budget committee noting that the first quarter
can be a vague look at the biennium and how it may go. Pointed out that the city spent 2.6
million dollars more in the first quarter than was received through revenues, but reminded
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the committee that the biggest revenue stream for the city is property tax which is not
received until November.
Gates noted that he found it difficult to find relevant information and asked if were possible
to reference areas in the report to the budget. Tuneberg responded that he would look into
how to make this more effective for the reader.
Gates asked for clarification regarding other financing resources in the amount of 26 million
dollars on page 2. Tuneberg explained they are borrowings, financings, other resources
that are not revenues like charges for service. Tuneberg offered to get a breakdown of
these for Gates. Gates further asked if these are debt obligations. Tuneberg responded no,
as budgetary resources they will become debt service but they are currently new
borrowings.
Tuneberg moved onto the resolution adopting appropriations.
Voisin referred to page 4 of those pages and asked about Public Works Improvement SDC
improvements totaling 3.170 million and Public work debt SDC totaling 361,000 dollars.
Tuneberg responded according to the budget and the CIP and what public works said they
were going to do in this biennium; 3.17 million was to come from water SDC's. That is a
budgeted to spend `down' their SDC balances.
Stromberg asked what kind of debt instruments we are using. Tuneberg responded that
borrowing is varied, i.e. state loans, low interest rates, rev bonds, full faith and credit bonds.
Infrastructure is usually done in 20 — 30 year borrowing terms.
Stromberg asked where we are in terms of borrowing capacity in relation to full faith and
credit. Tuneberg responded that we are fine but eventually we need to ask if we are done
with full faith and credit borrowing.
Tuneberg went on to page 7 Government Fund Financial Statements and outlined the
general fund revenues and other sources. He pointed out the appropriations and noted that
each of these are broken down by departments and are on a program basis. Pointed out
that as per Oregon Budget Law, you can only transfer out of a contingency to a specific
category through council resolution. There were no concerns with any expenditure in
contingency.
Preliminary numbers show Food and Beverage Tax up approx 7% and Transient
Occupancy Tax up approx 11 %. These are raw unadjusted numbers.
Rosenthal referred to pg 23 Parks & Recreation Fund and asked about charges for
services internal and asked if we should be concerned about the estimated amount
budgeted is $700,000 more than last biennium. Tuneberg responded no, there shouldn't be
a problem and that the transfers to date reflect one 1/12th of the first year of the budgeted
biennium amount.
Voisin referred to page 12, Capital Improvements Fund and asked about the expense of 7
million dollars and what taxes would go into the revenue to fund this. Food &Beverage tax
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is split between wastewater and parks improvement open space and all of this will come
with taxes.
Voisin asked if that Food &Beverage revenue is anticipated to increase by 2% this
biennium, would we spend that. Tuneberg said it was something we would look at. Kanner
cautioned against spending a bump in revenue after the first quarter as the following
quarter could prove to be lower and noted that these fluctuations have a tendency to even
themselves out.
Gates asked in relation to the police department if the officer position had been filled.
Kanner responded that the officer had been reinstated.
Gates commented out that in the future he would like to be provided with information
regarding capital project supplement budget changes.
Moran referred to pg 2, personal services which are budgeted at 61.6 million but seem to
be running at 58 million and asked what is the reason for this? Kanner and Tuneberg
explained that this difference accounts for position vacancies, negotiations etc.
Voisin referred to the water fund pg 14 and asked about the 1 million dollar council
approved allocation for TAP. Tuneberg clarified that the part of the project that was
approved by council will show as coming out of public works water supply.
Discussion of ECTS grant process
Runkel introduced the ECTS grant topic and noted that there was a memo handed out. He
proceeded to ask if anyone had any suggestions to how this should move forward.
Rosenthal said he would like to see things continue along the same lines for another round
next year; however he suggested adjustments to the methodology. Believes the process is
time consuming.
Marsh agreed there is room to improve and believes the applicants are being underserved
by the process being deliberated over by the budget subcommittee and believes they could
be better served by a more diverse group from the community.
Voisin supports a change and believes that council should debate with citizens as well as
agreeing that the process needs improvement. She believes the big awardees should be
included in the automatic awards like Shakespeare. Moran expressed agreement with
Rosenthal's comments.
Morris also expressed agreement but doesn't think we are ready to disband the group. He
agrees with Marsh that the process is cumbersome but time needs to be devoted to the
organizations.
Cody agreed that it is a lot of work. She would like to look at streamlining guidelines the
same Housing and Human Services has.
Lucas would also like to streamline but would like to see it stay with the Budget Committee.
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Stromberg would like to see a reduction to the burden of the application process for the
applicants. He believes this would allow them to make more effective presentation and
would like to see them give a personal presentation.
Darrow thinks it makes sense to make changes but asked what the Budget Committee's
role in doing that?
Runkel pointed out that there was never a resolution assigning this duty to the Budget
Committee. Kanner agreed that it is customary for the Budget Committee to participate
however, there is no written law stating this.
Rich would like to see as many members participate in the next round and then a week
later meet to discuss improvements.
It was tentatively agreed that Marsh, Rich, Cody, Gates and Runkel would meet informally
to look at the application forms before February 2016.
Morris asked Runkel for clarification in relation to dropping the Economic Development
aspect of the program. Runkel explained that he doesn't believe that any of the grantees
fall into this category.
Voisin asked if there was a better way to receive more information regarding how those
recipients receive their funding. Blackman explained that currently recipients reports are
due October after the closing of the next grant funding year therefore we would not be able
to see how the money was used until the following year.
Stromberg believes applicants are a great reflection of Ashland.
Voisin thought it would be important that we look at the possibility of giving larger recipients
a percentage rather than allocating.
It was agreed that an informal meeting would take place to discuss the application process.
Voisin left the meeting at 7:01 pm
Marsh reiterated that the meeting would be to work on the application form for the grant
only.
Kanner noted that the form was revised 3 years ago and that revisions to the form would
need to go to council.
Proposed agenda topics for off-year Budget Committee meetings;
DISCUSSION
Role of the budget committee
o Kanner raised the question of what the Budget Committee be should be; a
financial advisory committee or a committee who just reviews the budget as
per state law.
o Stromberg supports this being an off year topic.
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o Rosenthal agreed that there needs to be clarification for new members in
particular.
o Gates agreed that it would be beneficial to clarify exactly what it is that the
committee approves.
Possible use of study groups
o Runkel there has been expression of interest by certain members. Maybe 3 or
4 members to look at the cities expenditures.
o Lucas asked how this would work. Runkel stated that there should be some
formality but 2 or 3 members will be recognized as looking into subjects.
o Stromberg would like it looked at deeper and raised the question of who
might be interested. Gates, Lucas Moran, Cody raised their hands.
Capital improvement plans — project identification, funding and prioritization
o Kanner noted the possibility of CIP updates.
Department presentations and prioritization of presentations
o Kanner asked; do we want to change the sequence, adjust time of
presentations?
o Gates would like to see a different orientation and much more of Public
Works.
o Moran agreed and would like to see prioritization.
o Seffinger believes that department prioritization in relation to city goals city
concerns and city needs are every changing and need to be addressed.
Review of financial policies
o Tuneberg pointed out that these do need to be updated and theoretically
these are updated by council but the budget committee can have input.
o Stromberg expressed interest in this topic.
Review of City revenue streams (information only)
Update on Parks performance audit
Further discussion
Moran raised concerns with the budget document and suggested that each division of each
department provide their FTE's as well as requesting that a graph of compensation
amounts be made available for each division of each department. Kanner noted that there
may be an opportunity to view figures from the OSU study.
Stromberg suggested giving a presentation on city compensation.
It was agreed that Topics for the off year would be;
1. Role of the budget committee;
2. Possible use of study groups;
3. Capital improvement plans — project identification, funding and prioritization;
4. Electric Department 10-year plan,
5. Department presentations and prioritization of presentations;
6. Review of financial policies;
7. Review of City revenue streams (information only);
8. Update on Parks performance audit;
9. Presentation on compensation;
It was agreed that off year budget meetings would be spread out over the year and that
Blackman would schedule.
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Darrow asked if there were certain categories of information for the upcoming budget that
the committee should be studying.
Stromberg suggested climate action, transients, demand for resources for those, as well as
supplemental budgets. He added that there may be discussion of insurance as well as the
Fire departments long term future and possible merger with Fire District 5.
Darrow questioned if these items be added to the spring meetings. Stromberg suggested a
reminder be sent to budget members to attend study sessions.
Kanner went over insurance and explained the EOY loss ratio was 74% however moving
into October there was an exceptionally large claim. He went on to remind the committee
that it is too early to determine how things will go.
Gates asked Stromberg about AFR. Stromberg said that grants are going well and are in
programs that provide follow up grants and this would allow finishing a thinning project that
is underway. City needs to figure out how to reduce smoke from burn offs and this is an
area that the city may be focusing on.
Gates asked about the solar field proposal that was set aside for consideration. Stromberg
responded that it was agreed by most that the city having control of a solar park whose
output was managed and revenues collectable by the city would be beneficial to the city,
however, the proposal that was made was to put energy into a grid to be managed by an
outside entity who after at the end of the contract would turn over a 20 year old solar park
to the city. Stromberg also pointed out that with an ongoing cost curve it would make more
sense to purchase at a later date and the city would revisit this then.
Seffinger raised concerns regarding safety and downtown behavior and asked where the
money would come from for safety. Runkel asked if the restricted portion could be used.
Kanner responded no but the unrestricted portion can be. Seffinger would like to explore
options how unrestricted money could be used. Kanner pointed out that most of the general
fund money is appropriated and we would need to reallocate. Seffinger suggested using
the social service grant money.
Supplemental budget process
Lee outlined the supplemental budget process and the details of the upcoming
Supplemental Budget item `Resolution Adopting a Supplemental Budget Establishing
Appropriations within the Biennium 2015-17 Budget' which is due to go to council on
December 1, 2015 and addresses the need to purchase a new software program for the
finance department.
Lucas asked why this wasn't subject to the Oregon Public Contracting Law Contract Law.
Tuneberg responded that because we are migrating software from the same provider it is
not subject to that rule.
Runkel reiterated citizen concern that the item was listed in the budget but wasn't
approved. Tuneberg clarified that this item was in fact not a part of the budget, it was
identified as a future need and could wait until the next biennium. However, subsequent to
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this meeting it was identified that current software support would not suffice and that a
considerable cost savings had been identified which was time sensitive, making it essential
to go forward with a supplemental budget.
Moran asked if this had been part of the Administrations Services Financial Software and
part of the ad package. Tuneberg answered that this was not part of the ad package.
Moran asked what the ad package was that was in the budget. Tuneberg noted that it was
listed as a need but it was decided not to pursue it at that time and clarified that the
upcoming purchase is now different than the original consideration. Moran asked again if
this was turned down during the budget approval process to which Tuneberg responded it
was never a consideration during that time.
Adjournment
Meeting was adjourned at 8.00pm
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