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Thursday, February 21, 2002 Meeting Minutes
Roll Call
Commissioners Spear, Rogers, Burke, Chapman and Hartzell were present. Baxter, Nutter and Bretko were late.
Call to Order
Rogers called the meeting to order at 4:30 p.m.
Approval of Minutes
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Spear/Chapman m/s to approve the minutes of January 17, 2002 as presented. All AYES. Motion passed
Public Forum
Matthew Barnes of RVTD noted that the Jackson County Transportation System Plan is in comment phase. He also pointed out that
on June 11th, RVTD would be sponsoring speaker Todd Litman for an RVACT meeting, to be held at the White City Auditorium at
9:00 a.m. and then again at 12 noon. He offered to e-mail details to commissioners, and referred any questions about the
Transportation System Plan to Jackson County Planning. Barnes stated that the county bike commission is together and meeting again
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on the 2 Thursday of each month, at 4:30 p.m. at RVTD.
Signage & Maps
The group agreed to review the map work done last month. Harris clarified for Hartzell that the red stickers indicated a location for a
system-wide map. Harris questioned whether the focus of the signs was intended to be more on recreation or transportation. It was
suggested that members be given copies of Spear’s map for review at the next meeting. Burke suggested that signs similar to those
in Jacksonville that are decorative and historically compatible would be preferred. Harris noted she had ODOT’s street sign standards,
and she stated that the Street Department can prepare signs of that type. There was discussion of whether this would come out of the
commission budget, with the decision being to verify cost of labor and materials.
Sub-Critical Mass
Baxter noted that a sub-committee meeting had not yet occurred, but he stated that he had met with the Southern Oregon Mountain
Biking Association (SOMBA) and would like to get a proposal to them. He explained that SOMBA is more organized than Siskiyou
Velo, and he suggested that he would like to respond positively to their energy and enthusiasm by their May or June meeting. Baxter
suggested that the next step should be to meet to draft a sub-critical mass ride proposal for the commission to consider. Chapman,
Bretko and Baxter agreed to set a time for a subcommittee meeting. There was discussion of the noticing requirements for public
meetings, with Harris explaining that the meeting should be announced in a public notice if a quorum of 4 commissioners would be
present.
Baxter added that there would not be a Bike Swap this year, as the Ashland Schools Foundation feels that the event is not worth the
effort. Hartzell suggested that someone in the community might be willing to take on this event. Baxter stated that if the event were
restructured and held elsewhere it might work.
School Project Car Free Day
Hartzell noted that this event is now called the Car Free Challenge. She added that the event was to have kicked off on February 20th
but it was rained out. She went on to note that they have made a wooden school bus, and will kick off with a February 27-28th event,
with a teacher and principal in the walking schoolbus on a route from Wimer Street to Lincoln School. Chapman explained that the
bus began as a prop for discussions in the school, and he added that they are trying to get commitments from students to walk one or
two days a week.
Chapman noted for members that the schoolbus would be at Brothers Restaurant at 7:45 a.m. There was discussion of logistics, with
the suggestion to address more of a route around the school rather than simply a straight walk down Siskiyou. Chapman noted his
hope for a telephone party to contact parents who might not have read the newsletter. Hartzell suggested looking into getting a
neighboring business to provide an office with phones for use in calling.
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Traffic Safety Video
Hartzell stated that they are in the shooting phase, and they have already done some voiceover work. She stated that she had not seen
anything since the script that was looked at originally.
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Volunteer Speaker on Pedestrian Safety for Street Smart presentation on March 12, 7 p.m., Ashland High School
Baxter stated that he would be willing to do this, if a script were provided. Burke noted that he thought he could attend as well, and
stated that he would get back to Baxter to confirm.
New Business
Rogers noted that the website http://www.bta4bikes.org/info/tv.html has Bicycle Transportation Alliance public service
announcements, which will be airing soon.
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Rogers also asked for volunteers to assist with classes at McLaughlin next Wednesday the 27 at 2-3:30, and the 8th, 15th and 22nd of
March.
Rogers questioned stopping the monthly coffee get-togethers due to difficulty with turnout. After discussion, it was agreed that if
anyone wanted to meet, they would contact other members.
Chapman noted reading that the council had approved some pedestrian safety items, and he questioned what had occurred. Hartzell
noted that because repaving had already been scheduled, the decision was made to move on some items like bump-outs and zebra
striping as the paving occurs, assuming that the funding can be found. She clarified that this would be done along Lithia Way and
East Main through the downtown. She stated that the city will be contracting out these items, and she added that the city is also trying
to get an ODOT representative to come in for a walkthrough to provide further advice. Harris clarified that the bump-outs do not
require lane changes, and will be built to existing lanes and changed if the lanes are altered. Spear questioned whether bump-outs
cause problems for bikes. Harris stated that they should only create problems for bicyclists riding in the parking lane, which they
should not be doing.
There was discussion of the draft Downtown Plan, and it was noted that the plan had not yet been adopted or gone through public
process. Hartzell requested black and white copies of the plan for the commission to review.
There was discussion of how long it would take to get lane reductions and bike lanes downtown. Harris noted that lane changes are
physically easy, but the community involvement process is quite involved and would need to occur before bike lanes could be added.
Chapman questioned what was needed besides a traffic study. Hartzell questioned the planning staff schedule, and suggested that
Chapman draft a letter expressing his concern. Nutter suggested a letter from the commission. Harris stated that she could pass on the
commission’s concerns and interest to John McLaughlin, the Director of Community Development.
Nutter suggested asking for temporary bike lanes on North Main Street. Hartzell stated that staff would be coming back to the
council with a matrix of goals, including the Downtown Plan. She suggested looking at that matrix prior to moving further on this
issue, and she stated that it should come back to the council before this commission’s next meeting.
Nutter questioned whether there was a way to ask for temporary bike lanes prior to a downtown process. Bretko asked for a meeting
with all of the principals in one room to set goals together.
Harris stated that the city was at least one year away from final adoption of the Downtown Plan. Nutter stated that he would like
something else put in place as a temporary measure. Chapman noted that he is frustrated that the city already has a plan that could be
put in place and there are still delays.
Harris clarified that five-foot bikelane would be the maximum allowable, but she added that a wide, shared outside lane of fourteen
feet could be used to better accommodate cyclist with cars. She concluded that without acquiring more right-of-way, there is little
other room for bike lanes. Hartzell recommended letter writing to the council to make them aware of the problem.
Harris suggested that there would be some value in a softer approach, and she added that a meeting with city staff, ODOT
representatives and the TSC to hammer out details of the North Main Street design might be beneficial for all parties. She emphasized
that this would help foster better understanding of North Main issues while conveying the commission’s concerns. Hartzell pointed
out that there is not a currently accepted model which factors bicycles and pedestrians into the bigger picture. Harris stated that she
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would work to set up a meeting, and all of those present indicated an interest in attending.
Baxter asked whether members wanted to discuss the recent Ashland Street meeting. Chapman noted that the Ashland Street business
owners do not want changes, but they are now looking at designs similar to the Siskiyou lanes. Chapman added that the businesses
specifically do not want medians. He concluded that the designers brought a concept back last week, and he stated that they will have
a 60%-complete design with some medians for the council work session next week.
Consider Commission Project, Interests and How to Prioritize
Harris stated that this item was placed on the agenda at Green’s suggestion, without an explanation of what she intended. Chapman
stated that he thought this was intended as a general look at goals, and he suggested that the first question to address was whether
commissioners wanted to develop goals. Harris agreed with Chapman on the need to determine whether the commissioners want new
goals and further structure. Hartzell noted that the TSC is conducting strategic planning, and she discussed the process. Rogers
suggested looking at what the commission is doing and accomplishing – sub-critical mass, the school project, the TSC video, and
maps and signs.
Burke pointed out that he would be leaving the commission for graduate school after April. Rogers stated that she was staying with a
question mark. Burke discussed the difficulty in accomplishing things as a volunteer commissioner, and discussed the need for
general goals as well as specific ones.
Bretko stated that she would like to eliminate cars in the downtown. She questioned the need for sign-off of downtown interests for
the Downtown Plan. Harris stated that this was a part of public process.
Nutter suggested a thank you letter to the TSC for the job they had done, and to the Police Department and Chief Fleuter for their
recent enforcement efforts. Chapman agreed that there have been more stops, but he suggested that the police have missed
opportunities for communication with the public. He emphasized the need to address the education portion of the equation. Nutter
reiterated the need to thank the police for their recent enforcement efforts. Baxter suggested combining thanks and suggestions. It
was clarified that staff could pass this on if the commission reached agreement.
Nutter/Rogers m/s to send letters to the Traffic Safety Commission thanking them for listening to the Bicycle and Pedestrian
Commission’s proposal and for the ultimate suggestion they made to council, and to the Ashland Police Department thanking
them for increased enforcement related to bicycle and pedestrian safety. Discussion: Baxter suggested amending the motion to
include a request to increase the educational component of enforcement efforts, such as in the Bend crosswalk enforcement
model. Nutter added that he would suggest an offer of the commission’s services in assisting with the educational end of
things. Baxter suggested that the police are in a better position to provide the education component. Hartzell noted that the
Ashland Police have conducted 4-5 crosswalk stings here, and she noted that she has spoken to the Daily Tidings about further
publicity. She added that efforts are underway to get the Crosswalk Chicken back into action again. Chapman stated that he
had not noticed increased enforcement efforts. Harris suggested an informal expression of thanks to the TSC at its next
meeting rather than a formal letter. Motion was amended to include Baxter’s suggestion of requesting increased efforts
toward education from the Police Department. Voice Vote: All AYES. Motion passed.
Rogers noted that she had spoken to Medford Police about helmet law enforcement for kids, and stated that she would also be
speaking to the police in Talent and Ashland. Hartzell asked that enforcement efforts begin with warnings rather than simply
increasing ticket issuance. Bretko suggested buying helmets and providing them to be given out with the warnings. Rogers noted
that students could also earn helmets in school. Nutter stated that he would prefer that helmets be earned, but he agreed with the idea
of the commission subsidizing a helmet purchase. Bretko suggested providing stickers to allow children to personalize their helmets.
Agenda Items for Next Meeting
Maps and sign costs for the next budget cycle, copies of the Downtown Plan, and setting a meeting on the North Main Street project
with ODOT, staff and the TSC.
Adjournment
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 6:20.m.
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