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DOWNTOWN TASK FORCE – MEETING #3
JULY 28, 2008
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DOWNTOWN TASK FORCE
MEETING MINUTES
JULY 28, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
Task Force Chair Pam Hammond called the meeting to order at 2:05 p.m. in the Siskiyou Room,
51 Winburn Way. Hammond noted several of the members attended a tour of downtown sign issues,
which was conducted prior to the meeting.
Members Present: City Staff Present:
Pam Hammond, Paddington Station, Chair Martha Bennett, City Administrator
John Morrison, Mayor Richard Appicello, City Attorney
Renee Compton, Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory Adam Hanks, Permit Center Manager
Daniel Greenblatt, Greenleaf Restaurant
Sandra Slattery, Chamber of Commerce
Dave Dotterrer, Planning Commission
John Stromberg, Planning Commission
Dana Bussell, Public Arts Commission
George Kramer, Citizen at Large
Don Laws, Citizen at Large
Absent Members:
Dale Shostrom, Citizen at Large
PUBLIC COMMENT
Judy/Shakespeare and Co. Bookstore/Stated she is in a difficult situation because her business is
located down an alley. She explained sales have dropped 60% since the City has prohibited her from
placing the wagon at the alley’s entrance and explained that she is doing her best to keep the bookstore
open.
Jeff/ Rocky Mountain Chocolate Factory/Commented that the proposed changes are insufficient and
felt more change was needed. He stated businesses can’t stay in business if they cannot have something
that lets customers know they are there. He stated customers will not visit a store if that business does
anything “too tacky” and he does not understand what the task force is afraid of.
COMMITTEE DISCUSSION OF OPTIONS
Issue #3 – Downtown Businesses with Limited Signage Opportunity.
Hammond read and the issue and the options aloud. She voiced her support for Option 1, which would
change the sign limitation to 24” from the wall and would provide greater visibility for businesses on side
streets/alleys/pedestrian access ways. Mr. Hanks used Shakespeare and Co. as an example and explained
how Option 1 would allow them to place a sign at the entrance to the alley that would project out from the
corner.
Greenblatt/Compton m/s to accept Option 1 for Issue #3. Voice Vote: all AYES. Motion passed.
Issue #5 – Placing Signage in the Public Right-of-Way.
Hammond read the issue and options aloud. City Administrator Martha Bennett clarified if Option 2 were
selected, the City would have to establish a program and identify the parameters for a temporary sign
permit process. Slattery suggested they consider City owned signs that don’t include business names, but
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rather indicate “lodging” or “dining” and directional arrows. She stated these could be artistically done
and may encourage people to walk. Ms. Bennett commented that another option would be for the City to
install signs and allow businesses to purchase a spot on that sign. She stated this option would help with
the Blue Giraffe’s signage situation and noted a City sign could be placed in the Water Street parking lot.
Comment was made voicing support for a combination that would allow for generic directional
information signs as well as City signs that list specific business information.
Compton/Dotterrer m/s to accept Option 1 for Issue #5. Voice Vote: all AYES. Motion passed.
Laws/Kramer m/s to reject Option 2 for Issue #5. DISCUSSION: Kramer stated he is interested in
looking at encroachment opportunities that pertain to all businesses and voiced opposition to creating a
separate authority in this area. Laws felt it would be a mistake to allow temporary signs in addition to
directional signs. Compton commented that if the City decided not to place a directional sign, Option 2
would provide the business owner an opportunity to apply for a permit. It was questioned if the City could
stipulate that this option would only be available if the City does not do Option 1. Ms. Bennett voiced her
hesitations with Option 2. Suggestion was made for the group to table the motion and come back to this
after they have dealt with the encroachment issue. Motion was tabled.
Issue #7 – Encroachment Permit Process.
Hammond read the issue and the options aloud. Kramer voiced support for a list of approved items that
could be placed in the City right of way. He stated this list of allowable items should be separate from the
items the City would require a permit for. City Attorney Richard Appicello commented on the legality of
this issue and recommended a process where items would be donated and accepted by the City; and the
City would then decide where the item is placed. He stated the City would only accept items that met
generic durability standards and the individual would need to sign a maintenance and hold harmless
agreement. Ms. Bennett questioned if the City already owned these items and she stated it was her
understanding that if someone places an item in the City right of way, they are essentially donating it to
the City. Laws commented that it would be difficult to come up with a list of approved items and stated
the list would have to be regularly amended. He added that he does not feel a list of approved items would
solve the problem and voiced his support for Option 1. Kramer voiced concern that requiring a permit and
the donation process would stop these types of objects from being placed. Hammond noted that there are
also safety measures to be considered, such as the Black Sheep’s lion. Suggestion was made for a two part
process that includes a list of general items that the City endorses and requiring the placement of all other
items to go through a permit process.
Ms. Bennett summarized the group’s deliberation and stated they would like to allow for the placement of
functional items and recognize that these will be owned by the City; they are willing to let staff evaluate
whether to establish a donation process or include a general acceptance provision in the code. Ms. Bennett
stated staff could also look into a 3D allowance for functional objects designed to address safety issues
and noted there will need to be criteria established for how to decide on the placement of these objects.
Stromberg/Laws m/s to approve the staff direction as outlined by Ms. Bennett. DISCUSSION: It
was clarified this is not a final decision and this issue would be returning to the group at their next
meeting. Stromberg commented that he views this as enabling certain uses, not prohibiting everything
else. Bussell noted that if someone wanted to donate art there is already an approval process for that. Mr.
Appicello clarified the two processes would work together. Voice Vote: all AYES. Motion passed.
Issue #6 – Newspaper/Misc. Publication Racks.
Hammond read the issue and the options aloud. Comment was made questioning if the City could
completely remove the racks. Mr. Appicello clarified he does not believe completely banning them is
appropriate.
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Kramer/Greenblatt m/s to combine Options 1 and 2 and direct staff to inventory all downtown
newspaper/publication racks and prepare a recommendation. DISCUSSION: Recommendation was
made for the inventory study to indicate their preferences and for it to be referred directly to the City
Council. Kramer and Greenblatt agreed to include this amendment in the motion. Voice Vote: all AYES.
Motion passed.
Issue #9 – Administering the Downtown Parking Program.
Ms. Bennett noted the draft ordinance that was submitted to the group and indicated staff needs clarity on
the towing vs. booting then towing options. She clarified the City is not proposing to boot the vehicle and
leave it there until the owner pays, but rather boot the vehicle and have it towed after 24 hours if payment
is not received.
Support was voiced for towing and not booting vehicles. Hammond questioned the dollar amount owed
before the City would take action and suggested raising it from $250 to $500. Ms. Bennett commented on
why the $250 amount was chosen and cautioned them about raising this too high. Greenblatt noted the
provision in the ordinance that states the individual will be noticed 10 days in advance before any action
is taken. Stromberg supported the towing option and stated booted vehicles could take away from the
City’s ambiance.
Mayor Morrison left the meeting at 4:00 p.m.
Ashland Municipal Judge Pam Turner commented on the 10 day notice period and shared a few situations
where individuals might not receive the notification. Comment was made suggesting the City affix a
colored placard to the vehicle prior to it being towed.
Dotterrer/Greenblatt m/s to recommend the Ordinance as drafted with the exception of removing
the booting provision. DISCUSSION: Mr. Appicello suggested the notification period be changed to 14
days. Consensus was voiced for including this modification. Voice Vote: all AYES. Motion passed.
DISCUSS POSSIBLE AUGUST 4 MEETING
Hammond stated it will be necessary for the group to meet again and asked for the members’ preference
on meeting dates. She noted the group could meet next Monday, or meet two weeks from today. Mr.
Appicello indicated he would likely need more than one week to prepare the draft right-of-way ordinance.
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The Task Force reached consensus to meet on August 4 and August 11
Ms. Bennett clarified the Task Force’s final report is scheduled to go before the City Council on
September 2, 2008. She noted recommended changes to the Sign Code will have to go to the Planning
Commission; however, the Council could enact the rest of their recommendations. She added the group
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will need to complete their work by August 19 in order to make the September packet deadline.
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 4:15 p.m.
Respectfully submitted
April Lucas, Administrative Assistant