HomeMy WebLinkAbout2015-11-04 Ashland City Recorder Position Ad Hoc Committee AgendaASHLAND CITY RECORDER POSITION AD HOC COMMITTEE
November 4, 2015
2:00 — 3:30 p.m.
City Hall, Upstairs Conference Room
20 East Main Street
I. CALL TO ORDER
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
III. PUBLIC INPUT
IV. DISCUSSION OF PROS & CONS
a. Elected position pros and cons
b. Appointed position pros and cons
V. WHAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IS NEEDED?
VI. NEXT MEETING/NEXT STEPS
Al. ADJOURNMENT
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Items the Ad hoc Group may wish to consider in this discussion:
1. If elected what would any changes need to be made to the charter through an amendment, if
so what would need to be addressed.
2. If this position became an appointed position, who would appoint?
3. If appointed, would this position be a department of its own?
4. Would this be considered a department head level position, if appointed? What type of
supervision or evaluation would be considered appropriate?
5. Would the position be more integrated into the structure of city management if appointed?
6. Would skill level of the person filling this level be more apt to be at a higher level if
qualifications were established for the position? Would this be possible in either situation with a
charter amended if elected?
7. Does the salary level need to be adjusted if appointed with an entry level option? If remaining
elected, does the salary formula need revision?
8. If elected, do the duties of this position need to be adjusted?
9 . If appointed, what duties would this position continue to perform?
10. If duties were reduced, how would this effect the public perception of the importance of this
position? Would this effect the public's vote in a charter amendment?
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October 28, 2015
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MINUTES FOR THE ASHLAND CITY RECORDER POSITION ad hoc COMMITTEE
Wednesday, October 28, 2015
Siskiyou Room, 51 Winburn Way
1. Call to Order
Chair Stefani Seffinger called the meeting to order at 2:02 p.m. in the Siskiyou Room.
Committee members Bryan Almquist, Pam Lucas, Barbara Christensen, and Dave Kanner were
present.
2. Public Forum
None.
3. Review of Committee Charge
Chair Seffinger welcomed the committee members. She asked if the members of the group had
read the charge of the committee as presented in the packet and if they had any questions. No
member had any questions. She asked if there were additional questions they felt should be
added to this process. No members suggested any additional questions.
Seffinger explained that additional staff resources may be used during this process for research
purposes. She stated that all committee members have equal right to express themselves in this
process. She also stated that there is no intent for any of the outcomes of this process to effect the
current recorder position, this process is only regarding the future of the City Recorder position.
4. Discussion of Work Plan
Seffinger reviewed the information provided in the packet. Christensen stated she had concerns
with the information provided to Council for their August 31, 2015 study session. She stated she
had expressed those concerns at that meeting.
Group discussed the differences with the descriptions of the duties of the position between the
Charter and the Ashland Municipal Code (AMC). The AMC is more detailed than the Charter.
Both were written over 20 years ago and so are very outdated, particularly with regard to new
electronic processes and duties.
Group discussed the Charter requirement for periodic audits of all City accounting records.
Christensen stated this is a very little used part of the position, largely because the City engages
outside auditors who are experts in municipal auditing. This wasn't the case when the Charter
was written. She has conducted, with staff assistance, smaller audits based on concerns brought
forward by staff, Council or citizens. There was concern that an elected recorder may not have
any audit experience and so may not be able to handle even the smaller -scale audits. The larger -
scale ones would remain in the hands of professional auditors.
Group discussed both the Charter and AMC requirements for the recorder to handle finance and
tax levy duties. Christensen stated she isn't very involved with any of this, as it is better suited to
the Finance Division. Group agreed that this would be a good thing to be removed from both the
Charter and AMC.
Group discussed the challenges of finding a singular city recorder position description. Every
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city does a variation, dependent upon the size and needs of that city. There are some basics
amongst all — essentially the duties listed in Ashland's Charter, minus any financial or auditing
duties. Kanner stated that when creating the potential job description which was part of the
August 31 study session, staff looked at roughly twenty position descriptions and incorporated
duties which where common to at least three.
Group discussed how most city recorder training is on-the-job as there is very little training
available beforehand. Christensen described some of the trainings and certifications available
through the Oregon Association of Municipal Recorders.
Christensen stated that there have been lots of non -statutory duties assigned to this position over
the years. Group discussed whether those could be re -assigned to other departments. Christensen
agreed that many could. Almquist reminded the group that they cannot make any major changes
to the duties without a Charter amendment.
Group discussed whether there was anything which could be done to protect the City from errors
or concerns regarding an unskilled recorder being elected into the position. Group expressed
concerns about the lack of basic requirements for the position. The uncertainty of the skill or
knowledge level of an elected official is not something most were comfortable with. Christensen
stated that as a recorder there is the additional uncertainty of your job being up for election every
four years. This uncertainty may keep qualified or highly skilled people from seeking the office.
Group discussed whether there were duties and responsibilities listed in the AMC which could be
altered without needing to go for a Charter amendment vote. Both Christensen and Kanner
agreed that AMC could be altered to better reflect current job duties.
Group discussed the Charter section which states, "The Recorder must draw all orders for the
proper payment of monies against the proper funds..." They agreed this means the Recorder
must, as she currently does, sign all checks. Other banking transactions and issues, however, are
better suited and should be transferred to the Finance Division.
Group discussed the Recorder's duties regarding investments as stated in the AMC. Christensen
stated these duties used to be a much more involved, but with recent market issues, now is
mostly handled by going through the State pool, and that Finance could easily take on these
duties as well. Group agreed this would be a good transition.
Group discussed how much of Christensen's current time is spent on Charter required duties
such as; clerk of the Council, records maintenance, check signing and the AMC required
elections officer duties. Christensen stated about 50% of her time is spent on these duties. She
also stated that a good portion of her time is spent maintaining the AMC, which isn't in either
Charter or AMC, but is important to have someone be a centralized control.
Almquist asked if the current duties were reduced to only those in the Charter, would that reduce
her workload to 50%? Christensen stated that it's not clear if that's the case, due to State
regulations. She stated that her assistant handles all records management issues, but not records
requests. Christensen handles the business meeting of the Council, her assistant attends the Study
Session and assembles the minutes for both meetings, which are then reviewed by Christensen.
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Seffinger requested that Christensen put together lists of all current duties — one list of those
which are directly required by Charter, and one with all those duties performed which are outside
the Charter requirements.
Group discussed what means were available to handle an elected recorder who may not be
fulfilling their duties. The Charter states that the Council can remove this person, and have a new
one appointed by Mayor until a new election. Additionally, citizens can vote for removal from
office.
Group generally agreed that if the position is to remain an elected position it would be good idea
to change the AMC to only reflect the duties listed only in the Charter or those which are now
mandated by State laws.
Group discussed whether they could have minimum education requirements for the position.
Detennined it could be added into the AMC, but would not be enforceable without a Charter
amendment.
Group determined there are three basic options they are working with:
l) Keep the position elected but have the Charter amended via vote to reflect current duties
2) Keep the position elected but update the AMC to reflect current duties
3) Amend both the Charter and the AMC to change the position to an appointed position and
to reflect current duties.
Group expressed concerned with the compensation requirements for any future recorder. Should
we be paying anyone over $87,000 to only handle the three duties listed in the Charter?
Group discussed the possible concern of the position needing to remain an independent voice for
citizens. Seffinger wondered if it would help alleviate those concerns if the position were
appointed by the Mayor and Council, but managed by the City Administrator. Group agreed that
as the City Administrator is a direct report to the Mayor and Council, this set up wouldn't really
increase the independence of the position. Christensen stated that one of the current downsides of
it being elected and having such independence is that the position isn't staff and so is not
particularly connected to decision making. It's hard to be a member of the team if you're elected.
Group discussed the challenges with considering an elected position equal to a professional,
appointed position because they have no minimum requirements and no supervisions. This is a
possible argument for it needing to be appointed. On the other hand, citizens in previous Charter -
related elections have preferred having an elected official. The group agreed this isn't a reason to
stop consideration of the position being appointed, but wanted to clearly acknowledge the
previous preferences and possible concerns of the community. Group discussed whether citizens
feel comfortable approaching Christensen because she is an elected official or if it is because she
has been a part of the community (and in the position) for over 20 years. They agreed that it is
likely a bit of both, but may be more due to her familiarity than her being an elected official.
Group wondered if there were a way to improve citizen's confidence in an appointed position if
there were strong, clear requirements for that position. Agreed that with the open -meetings laws,
which were not in place when either the Charter or AMC were written, having the position be an
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independent, elected official to maintain citizen trust might no longer be as necessary.
Almquist stated that it is impossible to predict what would happen in an election and that the
group shouldn't base their decisions on what citizens may or may not feel, but rather on the best
possible decision. Christensen stated she is trying to keep an open -mind about all possibilities in
order to achieve what is best for the community. She agrees that both the Charter and the AMC
are antique and must be changed but isn't sure yet about appointed versus elected.
Christensen wondered if there has been a history of this being successful as an elected position,
would citizens see a need for change?
Group discussed whether, if Charter amendments are recommended, a plan needs to be in place
for what to do if that amendment fails. Discussed whether or not the group needs to come up
with multiple options for consideration. Kanner stated it is always better for clarity to have one,
best option. Council wouldn't have asked for this ad hoc committee if they weren't looking for
one best option with clear pros and cons to show how that option came about. All members of
the group agreed with this, except Christensen, who stated that she prefers the group gives
Council multiple options and let them choose which they believe is best.
Committee member Kanner left the meeting at 3: 25 p. m.
Group continued to discuss whether putting forth one option or multiple options was the best
approach for the Council and the community. Group determined that they would work through
all the options available and see if one option clearly becomes the strongest. Seffinger stated that
the group needs to know what can be done if the electorate does not agree with this group's
recommendation. It might be wise to have a second best option in the group's proverbial hip -
pocket.
5. Future Meetings Schedule
Group agreed that at the next meeting they would flesh out pros and cons of elected versus
appointed. Additionally, they requested that Christensen bring a list of all current duties, broken
out by Charter requirement, AMC requirement, State requirements, etc... They will also discuss
what things have to stay in the Charter and agreed they may need the City Attorney at a future
meeting to make sure their suggestions on this are legal.
The next meeting will be held on November 4 at 2:00 p.m., in the upstairs City Hall conference
room.
6. Adjournment
Meeting adjourned at 3:41 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
Diana Shiplet
Executive Assistant