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City of Ashland
Forest Lands Committee (View All)
Regular Meeting
Agenda
Tuesday, March 13, 2007
MINUTES FOR THE MEETING
ASHLAND FOREST LANDS COMMISSION
March 13, 2007 — 5:30 PM
Community Development, 51 Winburn Way
MEMBERS PRESENT: Richard Brock(Chair),Anthony Kerwin, Jim Lewis,Dan Maymar,
Joseph Valle,Zach Williams
Members Absent: Diane White
Staff Present: Chris Chambers,Nancy Slocum,Pieter Smeenk,Keith Woodley
Non-Voting Members Present: Eric Navickas
Also Present: Kate Jackson, Linda Duffy, Mel Wann
I. CALL TO ORDER: Temporary Chair Kerwin called the meeting to order at 5:37 PM in the
Siskiyou Room.
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES: Lewis/Valle m/s to approve the minutes of February 13,2007 as
submitted. Motion passed unanimously.
III. PUBLIC FORUM:None
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IV. ADJUSTMENTS TO THE AGENDA: Kerwin suggested moving New Business to the top of the
agenda. Commission agreed.
V. NEW BUSINESS
A. Discussion with Linda Duffy,Ashland Ranger District
Woodley, on behalf of the Commission, asked District Ranger Linda Duffy to update the Ashland
Fire Resiliency Project, speak to ways the City could be involved with AFR and the possibility of
sample prescription marking. Duffy began by introducing Mel Wann who would be working with
Duffy on AFR. She noted that Mollusk and Tree Vole inventories should be complete by October,
2007.
As stated in her letter to the Mayor and City Administrator dated February 26, 2007, as a way to
further collaborative efforts between the City and the Forest Service beyond what is provided for in
HFRA, Duffy proposed a 30 day advance governmental review of the Ashland Forest Resiliency
(ARF)FEIS whereby the City can review the completed FEIS and offer collaborative feedback to
the Forest Service in advance of the formal public 30-day objection period. She cited the 1929
Memorandum of Understanding(MOU) and believed this governmental review met the spirit of that
MOU. She also recommended the City participate in a Forest Service sponsored pre-FEIS field
demonstration of project conditions and treatment. The timeline for the field demonstration would
be approximately January, 2008.
Duffy said that the Record of Decision(ROD)would include"mitigation measures,""monitoring
plan"and an"implementation plan." She requested that the City submit comments describing how
these mitigation measures or the monitoring framework could meet the City's interests prior to the
release of the FEIS (October,2007). Duffy was also open to ideas regarding methods and
sequencing.
Vaile wondered if Duffy would be open to suggestions on marking. He noted that it would benefit
the public especially on the issues of tree size and NSO habitat(canopy).
Navickas asked the status of the Ashland Watershed Protection Project(AWPP).Wann reported that
during the last six weeks they have burned 300 acres of debris piles (300 acres). They have been
underburning as funding and burning windows allow. They plan on burning an additional 200 acres
of handpiling by Fall 2007. Duffy added that the burning will be finished about the time AFR is
ready to implement. The commercial aspects of AWPP will roll into those of AFR.
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Brock asked about revising the Memorandum of Understanding(MOU) as a way to address the
public's concerns about AFR being poorly defined and the desire to understand the project as it
develops. The commission's recent draft MOU included an annual update allowing the City to
comment as needed. In lieu of revising the MOU,would the Forest Service be willing to include an
annual report outlining what work was done,what monitoring would be done as well as the next
steps in the project?Duffy said the ROD, once released, could not be changed in its scope and
methods,but"adaptive management,"if included, could include modifications.
Duffy explained that the Forest Service would look at funding for the project after the resource work
was complete. The funding would be separated to include the commercial aspect, fuel reduction
completed by contract and fuel reduction completed by Forest Service staff. Pile burning is expected
to begin fall of 2008 while tree removal was expected to wait one fiscal cycle.
Navickas thought fire management had historically lead to an increase in sediment. Duffy said that
would not happen if it was planned correctly. If the two agencies work together,the needed
protections could be provided. This was the time for the city to comment.Navickas was in favor of
revising the MOU. Duffy commented that road building increased sediment,not forest
management. Further,the 1997 slope movement happened where it was expected and also in areas
where there was no management activity. She thought revising the MOU would not meet the City's
needs only the existing relationship.
Navickas thought the Forest Service should assume liability for removing sediment in Reeder
reservoir. Lewis asked Duffy if, financially,the goal of the project was to make money or break
even. Duffy said no. Funding for the ROD would occur in 2008; implementation funding in 2009.
Valle said that senators and representatives could be lobbied for funding the project. Duffy said that
lobbying could also discourage funding if they believed there could be numerous delays. Jackson
said the City Council was currently lobbying for one million dollars,but agreed with Duffy that the
request had to be framed correctly.
Duffy reminded the commission that Mel Wann had 36 years of experience in fire management and
knew the Ashland Watershed.Wann noted that the fire danger in the watershed was extreme(can
burn in one to two hours). He thought there was no chance to suppress fire without the AFR project.
Navickas wondered about the 9 1/2 miles of fuel breaks completed by Bill Rose in 1992. Duffy said
the fuel breaks would be of no help today because there was no money to maintain them. In
addition, since 1992 there have been social/political changes that discourage the use of fuel breaks.
Lewis asked if the Forest Service could give any assurances. Duffy explained that the Forest Service
worked from a federal mandate and the 1929 MOU. The only assurance the City had would be if
they purchased all the land in the watershed.Woodley added that the goal was"managed"risk rather
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than"zero"risk.
Duffy asked the commission what the City would do to fill the funding gap (mitigation measures,
monitoring and implementation). Both the Forest Service and the City have funding limits.
Navickas had concerns about the infrastructure of the project. Duffy explained that the construction
of new roads would be limited to 0.2 miles; the balance would be road reconstruction. This strategy
was expected to improve erosion.
Duffy ended by saying that the Forest Service was willing to help,but the collaboration tools she
presented tonight was the limit of what she would do. The Commission thanked Duffy and Wann for
coming.
Jackson asked to meet with a commission subcommittee to explore how the city could fill the"gap"
Duffy spoke of. She would be unavailable in April.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. Winburn Management Plan—This item was tabled.
B. Maintenance Needs for Lower Parcel—Marty Main reported that he was currently working on
maintenance (reducing understory ladder fuels) on units closest to the City. He would like to
produce a prescribed burning schedule even though prescribed burning was less controllable. Main
planned on a maintenance schedule of one season's effort every five years. Brock listed
effectiveness monitoring, soil moisture monitoring and tree mortality and growth as evaluation
measures.
VII. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Woodley asked the commission to add AFR mitigation measures, monitoring and implementation
recommendations to the April agenda. He reminded the commission that the plan could not be
contradictory to NEPA and USFS contracting requirements. Brock suggested commissioners look
over the monitoring sections in both the DEIS and AFRCA before the next meeting. Slocum
suggested forming a subcommittee to meet separately to work out the agenda and timeline for the
recommendations. Brock, Maymar and Vaile were appointed. Main would join the subcommittee as
a consultant. The date was tentatively set for April 5 at 4:00 PM at the Standing Stone Restaurant.
Smeenk noted that DEQ had a TMDL limitation on sediment in Reeder Reservoir.There was a zero
load increase above natural conditions permitted.
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VII. ADJOURN: 7:30 PM
Richard Brock, Chair
Respectfully Submitted,Nancy Slocum, Clerk
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