HomeMy WebLinkAbout1981-0714 REG MINMINUTES OF THE SPECIAL MEETING
ASHLAND CITY COUNCIL
July 14, 1981
ROLL CALL
APPEALS
Having led the Pledge of Allegiance, Mayor Medaris called the meeting
to order at 7:30 p.m. in the English Lecture Hall on the above date.
Present were Howard, Dale, Acklin and Laws. Peterson was absent and
Sims arrived several minutes late.
Planner Fregonese clarified the situation relative to the two Appeals
being considered by saying that should Council deny both Appeals, the
Planning Commission decision is upheld. If Council grants one Appeal
they will not be able to grant the other. Fregonese went on to tell
of the many hours spent in public hearings, site inspections and a lot
of testimony and said the Planning Commission deliberated over the
matter and prepared the packet for Council for full information on whic~
to make decision. Fregonese said the proposed placement of units was
done ~n an insensitive manner in some instances and that there were too
many units in the project which would violate performance standards by
overclustering of units. Fregonese said the "open space" ~s essential]i
a tradeoff but in this instance is extremely steep and not useable.
Fregonese said the decision of the Planning Commission is a good one an~
the conditions workable and added that there are problems with soils
and slopes in the project area. Fregonese asked that B. G. Hicks,
Engineering Geologist, & J. C. Cloyd, Geologist Report on Hillslope
Development be read into the record. B. G. Hicks read the report and
made himself available ~or questioning.
John Eads, 39 S. Central Avenue, Medford, representing applicant/
appellant Mark Cooper (Lithia Homes of Ashland) was given the floor
to present tbe appeal of Planning Commission's decision to allow 28
units and reviewed several grounds for disagreeing with that decision.
Tim Bosshard was introduced to answer technical questions relative to
plans & layout. Eads requested that all matters and documents be
made part of the record as submitted to the Planning Comj~ission.
Eads said there needs to be conditions imposed which will assure that
neither the City nor the residents in the area would be injured and
that the Geologist's report would protect a~ainst soil problems.
said that the conditions of Planning Commission would assure the same
regardless of the number of units asked for although Hicks' report ~eul
not take into consideration information from letter dated April 7, 19~i
from Edward Webber, Jackson Count7 Soil Conservation~st concerning
this site saying there is no slippage. Eads said he did not think it
could be contended that the 45 unit request would present hazards which
could not be adequately dealt with. Eads said the 21 acres designate~
as passive/recreation open space should not be excluded in the request
for 45 units because it is unbuildable and that the request is based
on perimeter of parcel. A minor land partition as applied for by
Geoffrey F. Lewis at 415 Granite Street was presented and it was re-
quested that letter be made part of the record. Ead~ said that one
of the conditions was that no construction could take place on slopes
greater than 50% and his client's condition called for no greater than
a 40% slope. Eads suggested that the slope percentage be removed
and requirement of engineering of foundations be a condition. Bosshard
showed elevations of plan showing the clustered areas and said that
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stream area would be left in natural state and that the large open area
would be for passive recreation with natural rock outcropping, plant
life, trail network for hiking & jogging etc. all of which would be don~
with the least amount of disturbance possible. Bosshard said every
consideration in planning has been given impact on adjacent property.
Bosshard continued by saying the project is FHA approved and the type
of construction would have the least impact on the type of soil involve~
Bosshard said only 8 units would be visible from Granite Street as
natural vegetation provides screening.
Eads concluded his presentation by saying that the modification of the
Planning Commission to 28 units is without basis according to the
Ordinance and that the 45 units as applied for should be approved.
David V. Gilstrap, representing Friends.& Neighbors of Granite Street
gave a short rebuttal to Eads' comments and disagreed with the reasons
given for Planning Commission's reduction to 28 units being the slope
of the 11 acres and said there were many other factors considered and
cited the first five or six conclusory findings as being the real
reasons for reduction. Gilstrap called attention to the fact that the
site is in "P Overlay" Zone meaning certain hazards exist and cited
those hazards as slope and soil. Gilstrap said Eads' offer to have
each foundation engineered and said that though under its present con-
dition the soil is stable with vegetation etc. but the moment it is
disturbed it will start mass wasteing/erosion and general slippage.
Besides the density, soil, slope and other foreseeable problems GilstriI
added traffic on Granite Street as a concern along with Lithia Park.
Also stated by Gilstrap was the need for neighborhood compatibility ag
outlined in the Performance Standard Options and noted the 1500 sig-
natures collected on petitions from concerned citizens. Gilstrap said
the open space area should be accessible by foot and useable by the
residents of the P.U.D.
Gilstrap covered other important areas and concluded by presenting the
petitions signed by 1454 persons to the Mayor and asked that it be
made part of the record. Also made part of the record previously in
the meeting were Staff Report of Planning Department dated April 8, 1982
Minutes of the April 16, 1981 Planning Commission Special Meeting,
Planning Commission's Findings (Exhibit "D"), Applicant's Findings,
Minor Land Partition approval for 415 Granite Street, Public Hearing
minutes for PA#81-25 admitted as Exhibit "B", Preliminary Engineering
Geologic Report of Hillslope Development - Upper Granite Street Area
as reported by B. G. Hicks and J. C. Cloyd, letters from Tangren Alex-
ander, Nell Benson, (Wildland Fire Prevention Specialist), Helen Wilson,
and Marilyn Marthoski. The meeting was taped for the record and will
be retained in file. (All documents submitted relative to this matter
on Planning Commission and Council level are on file).
Tangren Alexander who lives in the area read a letter asking
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consideration of the impact relative to traffic, further development
of open land towards tow~, above the park etc. and access roads them-
selves, traffic noise impact on Shakespeare etc.
Kay Atwood representing Bill Patton expressed concern of Festival on
voice audibility of the plays with increase of traffic especially in
~he summer evenings. Supportive of lowest density.
Dick Wood said that duplex housing would be undesirable in area of
single family homes.
Jim Greathouse cautioned Council on changing the policy of street pavin
by adding others to the district who use the street etc. and said that
if such an idea can be brought out of an emotional situation then it
could be possible for other property owners to pay for sharing of the
paving of feeder streets.
Perry Prince, 235 Granite Street, said when you have a steep hillside
some people are going to walk up but others will go up on motorcycles
and dirt bikes and erosion is sure to result and even walking will caus.
the soil to erede. Price added that the potential for fires when
people are on vacation should be considered.
Wayne Burns asked what guarantee that Mr. Cooper will keep his word
is being offered.
Another person objected to more traffic on Granite Street which is
already being used as a truck route for the City.
John Eads criticized Gilstrap for his presentation relative to unfeundec
information and went on to say that Mr. Cooper's application meets the
City's standards and was part of the Comprehensive Plan and now with
reconsideration of the application it appears the goal posts are being
moved. Eads went on to say the authors of the Comprehensive Plan were
citizens of the City. Eads reiterated his stance on how dense the
cluster of units should be and said that the open space which was said
to be unbuildable was never cleimed to be buildable but should be left
in the total picture as open space as applied for in the plan, Eads
said Gilstrap said we shouldn't be able to build on 40% slopes but
down the street building has been allowed at 50%. Eads referred to a
traffic study done in January of 1980 which establishes the fact that
Granite Street can handle increased traffic. Eads said that Council
is being asked to down-zone Mr. Cooper's property. The public hearing
was closed and turned back to Council for discussion.
Russ Dale asked if either Attorney had presented new information and
Fregonese said they had not. Mr. Cooper's investment was discussed
at length which information is available on tape. Howard asked Planner
Fregonese if he still supports the Planning Commission reco~nendation
and he said he does. Medaris asked about other slopes in different
parts of Ashland and how they differed from those being discussed.
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Hick said the Webber report was for clay and not granitic soils.
Hicks said there are other slopes comparable and that some are of clay
and others sand. Sims asked if the project can develop without water
problems and was told by Fregonese that it can. Dale asked Fregonese
to what degree has the Planning Commission dealt with the engineering
of foundations condition. Fregonese said it is in the conditions but
that alone dees not solve the problems. On question by Acklin of
Hicks as to what he thinks of plan for retaining walls and Hicks said
it would cost a lot of money.
Acklin read a letter which came from Neil Benson, Wildland Fire Pre-
vention Specialist, which reported hazardous wildfire potential in
the interface area in which houses are built right in or adjacent
to the forest. Bensen expressed concern that the subdivision is
being proposed in the Ashland Creek canyon and directly adjacent to
the Cityts watershed. The letter further elaborates on the dangers
and recommends a firebreak of at least 30 feet around all structures.
Also Benson recommends landscaping around structures be done with
"slow burning" native plants. Acklin agreed with the concerns of the
writer and suggested further conditions which would require fire
retardant roofs and to look in terms of more careful consideration of
protection of the watershed. Laws said that it would be adding con-
ditions after the fact but felt the fire prevention recommendations
should be discussed. On question of the City Attorney,Laws was told
that in essence Council could adopt the Planning Commissions Findings
and Conditions with the added condition of fire prevention to be taken
up at a later meeting after it is prepared by Planner Fregonese.
Salter explained the decision before Council saying that the units
have been proposed between the 14 asked for by the Friends of Granite
Street, 28 approved by the Planning Commission and 45 which the develop
er is asking for with inclusion of the passive open space property
included.
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Staff was directed/prepare findings of fact to include #38 and Laws
moved to indicate our preference is for 28 units as approved by
Planning Commission for density; Sims seconded and on roll call,
Howard, Dale, Acklin and Laws voted YES. Sims opposed and the motion
carried. Acklin moved to request staff bring back findings of fact
on condition of adequate fire prevention at next meeting; Laws seconded
and on roll call, Howard, Sims, Dale, Acklin and Laws voted in favor
to carry the motion. Laws moved to postpone action on appeals to
July 21, 1981 meeting; Sims seconded and on roll call all YES.
Meeting was adjourned to 11:10 P.M.
L. Gordon Medaris
Mayor
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