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AUGUST '13, 2002
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Commissioner Kerry KenCairn. Other Commissioners present were Colin Swales and
Marilyn Briggs. Staff present were Mark Knox, Maria Harris, Adam Hanks and Sue Yates.
Briggs moved to approve the July 9, 2002 Hearings Board minutes. The motion was seconded and the minutes were approved.
Swales moved to approve the Findings of the July 9, 2002 Hearings Board (1400 East Main Street, Forensics Lab). The
motion was seconded and the Findings were approved.
TYPE I PLANNING ACTIONS
PLANNING ACTION 2002-075
REQUEST FOR SITE REVIEW APPROVAL TO REMODEL AND EXPAND THE EXISTING STRUCTURE LOCATED ON THE
SOUTHEAST CORNER OF A AND PIONEER STREETS.
APPLICANT: ALAN SANDLER
Swales attended the Historic Commission meeting and a neighbor was concerned about noxious fumes from the glass blowing.
Knox said the applicant is asking for a building shell. Building and fire codes will step in during the building permit phase.
We can only do so much now without knowing what the use will be.
Swales had concerns about the color pallet submitted to the Historic Commission. Knox showed the Commissioners the colors
submitted by the applicant. Swales asked the colors not be used in a crisscross pattern. Knox said they cannot add a Condition
without re-noticing the action. He would ask for a color rendering to be submitted to the Historic Commission prior to
issuance of a building permit.
This action was approved.
PLANNING ACTION 2002-097
REQUEST FOR SITE REVIEW APPROVAL TO CONSTRUCT A TEN-UNIT CONDOMINIUM PROJECT (ONE EXISTING AND NINE
NEW) ONTHE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 722 NORMAL AVENUE.
APPLICANT: MIKE SULLIVAN/RICK KLIMEK
Briggs wondered if Condition 15 meant parking space #7. Knox said yes.
Briggs said there is a sidewalk that follows the driveway back to the new condominiums. There is a secondary sidewalk that
cuts across the lawn of unit 1 that goes to the street. Because so much of this is being used without greenery, she felt it would
be better to omit the sidewalk from the comer of the basketball court down to the street. It would allow for more greenery.
Knox said the intent is to encourage walking to the street. It is minimal. He wants to go out and walk the site again. He said
there is an effort to connect this pamel with the parcel in the rear. It would allow a mid-block connection.
Right now there is a hole in the fence and distinctive path right now.
This action was approved with KenCaim abstaining. She is the landscape architect on the project.
PLANNING ACTION 2002-098
REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND SITE REVIEW APPROVAL TO CONSTRUCT AN APPROXIMATELY 81 SQUARE
FOOT ADDITION TO THE EXISTING 2,031 SQUARE FOOT MEDICAL OFFICE LOCATED AT 521 NORTH MAIN STREET.
APPLICANT: DARRELL BOLDT
This action was approved.
PLANNING ACTION 2002-099
REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND SITE REVIEW TO INSTALL AN APPROXIMATELY 81 SQUARE FOOT
STRUCTURE FOR A "WALK-UP COFFEE KIOSK" FOR ONE YEAR AT 2490 HIGHWAY 66 (UNION 76 SERVICE STATION).
APPLICANT: RANDY WARREN
Briggs said the applicant is calling it pedestrian access to the coffee cart, but in two instances in the text that the applicant
mentions he wants the business visible from the street. We spent hours talking with ODOT about traffic concerns at that
comer. It is a very narrow place in the road. She doesn't agree with the proposal.
Swales had similar concerns. Considering the amount of work that has gone into regulating drive-up uses, this seems like you
can drive up to it but you can't reach out your window. Also, he has seen water coming from the area of the coffee stand and
running across the parking lot. He thought it seemed temporary in nature. He is concerned if they get their foot in the door and
providing no one complains it would get grandfathered in.
KenCaim questions the location and calling it a non-drive up. It seems to her a drive-up. Can they have a one year approval
and that is it?
Harris said Condition 12 limits it to one year.
Harris said it is not considered a drive-up. She reviewed the traffic impact analysis submitl~ with the proposed annexation a
couple of years ago and in looking at this proposal, Staff did not feel for a period for one year that it would have a significant
impact.
Briggs moved to call it up for a public hearing. Swales seconded the motion. The motion carried with KenCaim voting "no".
PLANNING ACTION 2002-101 IS A REQUEST FOR A LAND PARTITION TO DIVIDE ONE PARCEL INTO THREE PARCELS LOCATED
AT 128 EAST NEVADA STREET. PARCEL $ IS ENTIRELY IN THE ASHLAND CREEK FLOODPLAIN AND WILL BECOME A
DEDICATED PARK LAND UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE ASHLAND PARKS DEPARTMENT. COMPREHENSIVE PLAN
DESIGNATION: SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL; ZONING: R-1-5-P; ASSESSOR'S MAP #: 39 1E 04 BD; TAX LOT: 1901.
APPLICANT: CITY OF ASHLAND PARKS DEPARTMENT
This action was called up for a public hearing.
TYPE II PLANNING ACTIONS
PLANNING ACTION 2002-077
REQUEST FOR A TWO-PARCEL LAND PARTITION AND 1'-6" LOT WIDTH. VARIANCE FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT t642
ROSS LANE.
APPLICANT: RICHARD LUCAS
STAFF REPORT
Knox reported that the Planning Staff reviewed this as a Type I. During the discussion of the application, the Commission
asked for a greater setback for the rear yard. In order to do that, we had to re-notice stating this condition was imposed. In
doing so, another neighbor called it up for a public hearing because he felt the greater rear yard setback would have more of an
effect to the neighbors on the front side. Staff's perspective is that the front yard setbacks are set. They are ten feet with a
porch from the front yard, 15 feet for the habitable portion of the house and 20 feet for a garage. Regardless of what happens
with that imposed Condition of the rear yard setback, the applicant could build a house at those setbacks. It is Staff's opinion
that all the Condition did was narrow the buildable area. The house got shifted that much closer to the middle or front of the
lot. The appellant is not here but wanted his concerns noted. Staff does not feel there is an additional impact to any neighbor
by the imposed Condition placed by last month's Hearings Board. Staff is recommending approval with a Condition of a 25
foot rear yard setback.
Briggs moved that PA2002-077 be approved. KenCaim seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
PLANNING ACTION 2002-094
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REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO ALLOW THEATER, NIGHTCLUB AND BAR USES WITHIN THE A STREET
MARKETPLACE AND PAVILION LOCATED AT 340 A STREET.
APPLICANT: A STREET MARKETPLACE
STAFF REPORT
Harris said there are two enclosed buildings (13,000 sq. ft.) and an open-air pavilion on the east end (4,000 sq. ft.). The interior
was approved at a restaurant/retail level of activity. The pavilion was described as being used for occasional open markets and
a very small scale Tuesday market. At this point, the applicant is requesting they be allowed to use the pavilion area for special
performance events. That requires a Conditional Use Permit. The main issues for Staff in looking at the CUP criteria are the
impact of the use on the surrounding area and also that it is meeting the parking requirements.
The parking calculations are outlined in more detail in the Staff Report. The parking comes out a wash. Staff's concern is
working out a system of when they can use what they want. Condition 4 tries to put in place a system where Staffwould
review prior to each event, what they were going to close down and what would be open. At the Hearings Board, it seemed
that would be too cumbersome for the applicant. The new Condition would be four options: 1) They could use the pavilion
space as a CUP and then keep open 3,850 square feet of the interior of the building. 2) They could use about two-thirds of the
pavilion space and keep a little over 8,000 sq. ft. on the inside open. 3) They could use a portion of the interior of the building
for a CUP (1,000 sq. ft.) and keep the whole building in operation, but not the pavilion. 4) At no time could CUP activities be
going on in both the pavilion and the interior space.
KenCairn wondered if they could work out an agreement with the hardware store. Harris said that could be an option with a
long-term lease agreement.
Harris introduced Adam Hanks who has been involved in this application. They have tried to use the existing parking. They
have tried to simplify the parking with the Condition.
KenCairn said, for example, let's say there was a problem with the operation. The problem would possibly show up as bleed-
over parking going places it does not belong. What else would generate a complaint? Harris said the option they are proposing
would give the applicant the basic set of rules they would have to operate by. We would no longer be requiring them to check
with us before each event.
Harris added a Condition that they do a noise analysis and show that a typical event meets the City's noise ordinance.
Briggs noted there were several letters in the packet encouraging the Hearings Board to approve the application. Is the pavilion
enclosed or not enclosed? Harris said it is not enclosed. Hanks said the applicant has talked about enclosing it. Harris said
this application is not asking for any exterior changes.
Briggs asked about noise. Hanks said the noise is measured from the residential use in a residentially zoned property. Because
the applicant will have different types of events, there will be different types of equipment. Noise can vary between
nighttime/daytime and weather.
Harris said Condition 8 states they have to do an independent noise analysis.
KenCairn wondered if there was a time constraint. Hanks said the decibel readings change after 9:00 p.m. Briggs asked if they
could add a Condition that concerts end at l 1:00 p.m.?
Hanks said the interior of the building is solid walled and the applicant feels it would not allow noise to carry to the outside.
Site Visits and Ex Parte Contacts- Swales attended the Historic Commission meeting where this was discussed. Philip Lang
spoke at that meeting and Swales heard his testimony. Lang also has a letter to the Planning Department stating his concerns
with this application. Lang's main concern is general development along A Street and parking issues. Briggs had a site visit.
PUBLIC HEARING
ALLAN SANDLER, owner/member of the A Street Marketplace, said the report is clear. They have worked closely with the
Planning Department and he feels they have ended up with a really good approach to the neighborhood. The curtains will be
used to block lights and glare in the pavilion.
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They are in complete agreement with the City on the regulations for sound, parking and lighting. They want it contained in
their own space. They have 14 tenants that would leave if they had the pavilion using up all their parking spaces. They
devised a process with Hanks so they will not have parts of the marketplace open when other parts are open. They only
anticipate concerts at night. They are not asking for any Variances on the parking. They are willing to live with their own
requirements and restrictions.
They borrowed the City's sound meter and tested all around the place. They will abide by the sound ordinance. They will
keep the stage lighting within the building. It will not go out on the street. They are doing the pavilion for the community. It
is an affordable venue space for local artists.
KenCaim wondered how Sandler would feel about limiting the time. Sandier is agreeable to 11:00 p.m. They are talking
about enclosing the pavilion. KenCairn asked if he would be willing to close at 9:00 p.m. until the pavilion is closed in. She
gets sound all the time from A Street and she lives many blocks away. Sandier said it's going to be very versatile and he would
prefer not to have a time limitation. He is not sure 9:00 p.m. will work.
Knox said there are two issues. The sound ordinance is subject to citation. Sandier could be cited by exceeding the noise
levels. It is a CUP and it is possible to revoke the permit if the applicant cannot comply with the intent of the application.
There are pretty strong prongs into the applicant's application to make sure it is not going to a violating circumstance.
Sandier wondered if they could compromise at 10:00 p.m. He suggested no amplified music or drumming after 9:00 p.m..
Sandier plans to enclose the pavilion eventually, however, the cost would be about $100,000.
Swales said a theater is not a permitted use or CUP in this zone. Is the only way to do it is under nightclub (entertainment)? It
the theater a CUP?
Hanks said some of the terminology changed in the E-1 zone and it went from eating, drinking, entertainment establishments as
permitted in E-1 and the new ordinance in 1998 changed it to nightclubs. The nightclub definition includes entertainment. The
intensity of that use is similar to the others in that same category.
Briggs wondered how many warnings are issued before they are shut down. Hanks said he is not on call 24 hours day. Sandier
does not want bad publicity and will monitor the site. Knox said what would happen is that the City will get a complaint. The
applicant would get three chances before they would begin revocation proceedings.
PHILIP LANG believes this is a prohibited use. Enforcement depends on people complaining. This is not a good way to set
this up. His tenants have called him and said they are against the proposal. The Staff Report and findings have not dealt with
the target use of the zone -- E-l-- and the impact. A Conditional Use Permit shall have no greater adverse material effect on
the livability of the impact area when compared to the development of the subject lot with the target use of the zone. The
proposal is an intensification of the use that is being proposed. The larger adjacent R-2 area is the impact area. A CUP is not a
"shall"; it is a "may". The burden of proof is not on the residents or the neighborhood, but on the applicant. This application
does not meet the requirements for a CUP because of generation of traffic it affects on surrounding streets and the generation
of noise, light and glare. The parking is inadequate. The development abuts residential on two sides. E-1 is designed to
provide for a variety ofuses...and have minimal impact on surrounding uses (R-2). Office, retail and light industry are far less
intense uses than a bar, nightclub and theater.
Lang quoted the Daily Tidings dated April 6, 2002. The description in the Tidings would indicate an intensification of use that
is not envisioned in the E-1 zone.
This is a Condition on a CUP that is unenforceable and it will never be enforced. The quality of life in their neighborhoods is
already go'rog downhill. Now we are going to have alcohol and young adults, wild driving; accidents, bottles, cans, and trash.
There will be people zooming up First, Second, Third and Fourth Street.
Lang mentioned a letter in the packet written by a soundman that indicates he is not interested in any limits.
Swales said the property is bordered by R-3 across Oak Street as well.
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Staff Response
Harris said on the handout that was passed out, the following wording should be added at the beginning: The following
stipulations shall apply to all events held on-site, including the pavilion and public spaces. No more than one scenario shall be
held at one time. This replaces Condition 4.
Number 3 of the handout should read: Interior public space (1000 sq. ft.) for CUP activity.
Harris suggested adding a Condition 10 that the method for delineating the front portion of the pavilion space from the closed
rear portion of the pavilion space shall be approved by the Staff Advisor prior to the first event.
KenCaim believes there are enough issues that she would like to bump this to the Full Commission.
Knox said there can be findings at the Full Commission for approval or denial, but if the Conditions are added or deleted, there
is no way to print new ones at the meeting, if approved.
Briggs set this is as a precedent-setting decision and she believes it should be forwarded to the Full Commission with
Conditions.
Swales has not seen anything in the findings comparing the proposed use to general office'['lm'get use). He can't fred any
reference to theater use in the E- 1 zone. He wants to make sure what Sandler is applying for is what he is getting.
Rebuttal
Sandler said they are not asking for anything changing the use from parking, sound or light. They are not asking to increase
the impact.
COMMISSIONERS' DISCUSSION AND MOTION
Harris said the Hearings Board cannot call it up to thc Full Commission. They can only approve or deny it. If they deny it,
they can give the applicant the option of coming back. They can keep the public hearing open. The Commission needs to be
really clear what they want Sandier to bring back. Knox noted that the Hearings Board changes next month. It is likely we
would have to have a special meeting to hear this. Harris said if they are leaning toward continuing, it would be best to lay
everything out that they want the applicant to bring back to them.
Swales wants to see whether "theater" is included as a proposed use or whether it is rolled into the nightclub. He would like to
see the proposed use compared to the target use which is general office use. He would like to see some clarification on the
parking requirement and what they are approved for currently.
Briggs would like to see the City Attorney's interpretation that the CUP for a bar and nightclub could include smaller scale
"theater" productions. She would also like to see how thc interior space is to be used for theater and entertainment (floorplan).
She would like to add a Condition 11 that no outdoor pavilion use after 9:00 p.m. be allowed with amplified sound or
drumming until such timethe building becomes an interior soundproofed space.
Swales would like a clarification as to whether E-1 with an R overlay qualifies as residentially zoned land. When you look at
the Special Permitted Uses, they refer to distance from residentially zoned land. Harris said it is not considered residentially
zoned land.
Even though the Public Hearing was closed, Sandier spoke up to say he wished to withdraw his application and left the
meeting.
Harris recommended the Hearings Board make a decision. KenCaim thought Sandier had to be present to agree to a
continuance. Harris afl.med.
Briggs moved to deny PA2002-094. Swales seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
ADJOURNMENT - The meeting was adjourned at 3:30 p.m.
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