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Minutes
September 3, 1997
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at the Ashland Community Center by Chairperson Jim
Lewis at 7:40 p.m. Members present were Jim Lewis, Terry Skibby, Dale Shostrom, Keith
Chambers, Curt Anderson, Vava Bailey, Joyce Cowan and Carol Abrahamson. Also present
were City Council Liaison Steve Hauck, Associate Planner Mark Knox and Secretary Sonja
Akerman. No members were absent. Cardinale has resigned, and a new member will be
appointed September 16th.
APPROVALOF MINUTES
Chambers moved and Abrahamson seconded to approve the August 6, 1997 Minutes as
submitted. The motion was unanimously passed.
STAFF REPORTS
Planning Action 97-073
Conditional Use Permit
570 Siskiyou Boulevard
Laura Shrewsbury
Knox explained this application is to expand the existing traveller's accommodation from
four units to five. Overall, the application would meet all the regulations. The only exterior
change proposed is an exterior door for the new unit. The primary concern of Staff has to
do with the applicant's floor plan. The new unit will be created from existing owner's unit
space. According to the findings submitted by the applicant, the kitchen area is not
accessible by guests. This does not make the common area (living/dining rooms) accessible
from the inside. Guests would need to walk outside and to the front of the house. Each
unit has a kitchen area. Staff sees this more as a hotel than a traveller's accommodation.
Knox added it seems unlikely the guests would use the common area. He also stated he
understands the owner/applicant has the property for sale and is moving. Staff feels it
would be premature to approve this application. The owner's living area is getting smaller
and it soon would not fit the needs of a family, but only one or two people operating the
business. For these reasons, Staff is recommending denial or a continuance in order to work
out these issues.
Laura Shrewsbury debated Staff's reasons for denial or continuation. She said all they were
changing is the existing double set of windows to an exterior door. She emphasized the
common area is for the guests and they are served breakfast there or outside in the enclave,
which is covered and opens to the pool. She also said they have a full basement under the
house. They don't live there but they could. They will have three sets of doors opening
onto a beautifully landscaped area that guests like to use.
Chambers asked where the new units were derived and Knox answered from the owner's
bedrooms. Chambers said his understanding of the B & B ordinance is that it allows people
with larger homes to live there, serve the needs of the community and earn money. This
application seems more like a hotel.
Knox said the intent of the ordinance is also to allow people to fix up older homes. He
related it is important to remember the B & B is in a residential zone. A new owner would
also have the same application requirements to ensure the residential areas and the home
itself are respected.
Skibby said he sees all the exterior doors and it seems obvious this is a change from
residential use to a hotel.
Lewis related it is also important to know this is in a multi-residential zone and it is
necessary to look at how easy the B & B can revert back to residential use. He said he feels
it would not take much to do this. He also said to change from four to five units would not
be a big impact.
Bailey said if you keep adding units, parking, etc., it soon won't feel like a residential area.
It will be more like a commercial area. Skibby agreed and said if it reverts back, the units
could be used as rentals.
Chambers maintained this application is pushing the envelope of what the ordinance
envisioned. He said he tends to agree with Staff and this application is nearing the point
in which the neighborhood area stops feeling residential.
Anderson asked for clarification of the status of the house. Shrewsbury said the house is
for sale. She is living in the house but the rest of her family is not. Her family would like
to keep the property, but her children do not want to live there.
Shostrom said this seems to be a planning issue versus a historic issue. Visually and
architecturally, he does not see a problem. He feels, however, it could have an impact on
the area.
Knox said the increase in the number of units probably would not be noticeable in the
neighborhood. He asked how usable the common area is. If it can't be used, it doesn't
meet the intent of the ordinance. Staff doesn't think it will be used. Shrewsbury countered
by stating she serves guests all winter in the living/dining area. Bailey said she would rather
see it worked out where the guest suites are more accessible to the common area rather
than see all the exterior doors. Skibby agreed and added he would rather see it remain
more as a residence. The use, he repeated, seems to be changing.
Chambers said the issue is about houses converting to B & Bs. They need to retain a
residential feel. This is pushing the ordinance because the way neighborhoods function is
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part of the purview. By decreasing the size of the owner's quarters, it will be less livable
for a family.
Chambers then moved to recommend denial of this application to the Hearings Board with
the suggestion the owner rethink the interior design of the house in order to keep it more
residential. Anderson seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
Planning Action 97-082
Variance
872 "B"Street
Dan Heller/Mary Beth Burton
Anderson stated he knows the applicants and owns a rental home not far away. He said he
does not believe it will affect his ability to make a fair decision.
Knox explained the applicants are requesting a Variance to allow the existing rock wall to
remain at five feet in height rather than cutting it down to three feet six inches as required
by ordinance. About seven years ago, Heller stated he came to the City Hall and asked the
Building Official if he needed a permit for the wall. He said he was told by Everett Murrell
(who was the Building Official at the time) he did not. Knox noted the applicant is a stone
mason and the design factor of the wall and expense to Heller should be considered unusual
circumstances. Therefore, Staff is recommending approval.
Dan Heller said he built the wall in 1990 to replace an old five foot wooden fence. He then
read the letter he had submitted with his application.
Darrell Pearce, 107 Fifth Street, testified he lives in the neighborhood and walks frequently.
He sees many fences that probably don't meet the code. There are different styles and
approaches. This is all part of the character of the Railroad District. Heller didn't intend
to build an illegal wall, and to try to cut it back 18 inches would be horrible. It ties in with
his new house. He encouraged the Commission to consider approving the Variance.
Linda Datz, 156 Eighth Street, stated she walks by the rock wall every day and thinks it is
a beautiful piece of art. She loves the neighborhood. A large part of the charm of the
Railroad District is the diversity of the property. This makes it a real neighborhood and the
wall adds to it. She said she feels the wall has been there for seven years and that it is
more of a benefit than a detriment. She would like to see it stay.
Mary Beth Burton related she went around the neighborhood and talked to people to find
out if they supported keeping the wall. There was an overwhelming support and she found
no complaints. She then submitted a petition signed by neighbors to keep the wall.
Skibby asked if a gate would be installed in the cut out. Heller said he didn't plan to put
in a gate, that he thought it would be more friendly to keep it open. He will be creating a
return in the opening going toward the new house, however.
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Anderson said he appreciated the fact that Heller applied his trade in creating the wall.
When the wall first went up he felt it was imposing, but has gotten used to it. He then
asked about the opening. Heller said he cut it when he started to build his new house.
Anderson said the issue now is there is a house behind the wall. He doesn't want to have
a neighborhood of walls and would like to have assurance there would not be a big gate.
Burton responded the vegetation behind the wall has been cut so the new house can be seen
better. Bailey asked if a person is allowed to plant tall vegetation in front. Knox said it is
not allowed and added that Staff only acts on a complaint basis if there are problems with
neighbors. Hauck added when there is a planning action, this triggers compliance with
ordinances.
Bailey stated the wall was not inviting before; it still is not inviting. She related she would
also like to ask the owners to keep the vegetation down.
Knox declared this is not something that will set a precedence. It will not happen in the
future.
Lewis said this is a beautiful wall and agreed it would be difficult to cut it down. Chambers
added there is a gray area about what went on with this and stated it is important this not
set a precedence.
Abrahamson asked if the rock wall would meet Historic District criteria if it were built to
code now. The general consensus was that if it were three feet six inches, it would be OK.
Skibby noted if the wall were cut down to three and one-half feet and recapped, it would
not be as attractive.
Shostrom stated he used to live just down the street so he looked at the wall for a long time.
He said he felt there was a mystery lot behind the wall and it was not welcoming. He
commended Heller in the design changes he made for the new house, but he said he still
sees the wall more than the house. He continues to have the same feeling of mystery. He
said it is a shame you can't see the beautiful house until you get to the opening. The four
foot opening just seems too abrupt. Shostrom then asked if Heller would be willing to make
a wider opening in the wall or step it down. He doesn't like to feel as though he is violating
someone's privacy to admire the house. Heller responded he felt it would be enough to cut
the vegetation. He said it would change the look of the wall to widen the opening or cut
it wider. It would be a tremendous project to step it down and he would fight it. Heller
also noted he had talked with Planning Director John McLaughlin about the four foot
opening he recently cut and McLaughlin indicated he had no problem with that width.
Anderson stated McLaughlin would not have spoken for the Historic Commission and added
the saving grace in the wall is that there is an opening.
Chambers commented he didn't feel the wall is quite in step with the neighborhood and the
opening is too abrupt. He asked if Heller would consider stepping down the wall. Heller
replied the cap rocks are woven in and are black shale rocks. He really doesn't want to do
that and pleaded with the Commission to let him leave the wall. Chambers said he would
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like to mitigate this. The wall is in violation and he does not feel it is unreasonable for
Heller to make some adjustments in the opening. Heller stated he will use the thinnest rock
for the return, which will only reduce the current opening by a few more inches.
Skibby said it would help to have a wider opening and that it would be easier than stepping
down the wall. Anderson said a wider opening would only be 1-2 % of the 60 foot long wall
and that he didn't feel it would make much difference. Chambers maintained it would be
up to a 50% increase in the opening, however, and that it would make a difference.
Skibby moved to recommend the Hearings Board accept the Variance with a wider finished
opening of six feet and that the hedges be lowered to the approved height. Discussion
followed. Abrahamson seconded the motion, which carried with all voting aye except
Anderson.
After further discussion, Hauck stated the Commission should clarify the motion.
Clarification is as follows: 1) the minimum opening of the rock wall should be at least six feet
with a preferred recommendation of a nine to ten foot opening, and 2) the Review Board review
the design of the return walls on the opening of the rock wall before being built.
BUILDING PERMITS
Permits reviewed by members of the Historic Commission and issued during the month of
August follow:
835 Blaine Street
110 Pine Street
255 East Main Street
219 Almond Street
115 Fork Street
115 Fork Street
307 Meade Street
35 Granite Street
66 North Second Street
Keith & Ann Chambers
Mark & Nancy Spector
Elk's Lodge
John Javna
Larry Medinger
Larry Medinger
Cynthia Ceteras
Allen Connolly
Trinity Church
Revision
Remodel/Addition
Fence Enclosure
Addendum to Carport
Garage Demolition
Remodel/Addition
Revision
Basement Addition
Sign
REVIEW BOARD
Following is the schedule (until the next meeting) for the Review Board, which meets every
Thursday from 3:00 to at least 3:30 p.m. in the Planning Department:
September 4
September 11
September 18
September 25
October 2
Anderson, Bailey and Skibby
Abrahamson, Cowan and Skibby
Chambers, Cowan, Skibby and Bailey
Lewis, Shostrom and Skibby
Abrahamson, Lewis and Skibby
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OLD BUSINESS
Project Assignments for Planning Actions
PA# ] Address Person(s) Assigned I
96-063 62-66 East Main Street Terry Skibby
96-058 264 Van Ness Avenue Jim Lewis
96-086 685 "A" Street Curt Anderson/Jim Lewis
96-110 499 Iowa Street Joyce Cowan
96-112 249 "A" Street Jim Lewis
96-139 545 "A" Street Terry Skibby
97-014 20 South First Street Joyce Cowan
96-143/97-030 136 North Second Street Terry Skibby
97-018 661 "B" Street Jim Lewis
97-039 78 Sixth Street Jim Lewis
97-053 565 "A" Street Jim Lewis
97-082 872 "B" Street Dale Shostrom
OLD BUSINESS
Downtown Design Review Committee
Knox reported the committee is moving forward with the design standards. All six members
seem to be on the same track. He also noted the design standards will be required, will
have nice illustrations, and be user friendly.
NEW BUSINESS
Election of Officers
With a motion by Skibby and second by Shostrom, it was the unanimous decision to elect
Chambers to be the City Council Liaison.
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Railroad District - National Register Grant Approval
Knox reported the City has received word from the State Historic Preservation Office
(SHPO) that we are the recipient of grant money dedicated for the research in applying for
National Register status for the Railroad District. Requests for Proposal will be sent within
the next three weeks.
He also explained the Historic Preservation Ordinance would kick in. This would give
property protection and benefit the property owners. They could apply for National
Register status individually, and in turn get the taxes frozen. Before SHPO approves the
tax benefit, property owners will now be required to submit a plan for significant renovation
to the structure, which needs to be consistent with the guidelines. The financial impact will
be minimal to the City.
Goal Setting/Orientation Meeting
The Commission discussed various ways to incorporate the orientation meeting with the
monthly meeting. One suggestion was to have the orientation meeting in the early
afternoon, then have the monthly meeting in the late afternoon. This will be discussed
again at the next meeting.
Space Needs Committee
Hauck informed the Commission the Mayor will be appointing a new Space Needs
Committee and she would like one member from the Historic Commission. The main
objective the committee will be working on will be the addition of a third story to the City
Hall. The Commission will recommend a member at the next meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the unanimous decision of the Commission to adjourn the meeting at 10:10 p.m.
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ASHLAND HISTORIC COMMISSION
Agenda
September 3, 1997
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CALL TO ORDER: 7:30 p.m. - ASHLAND COMMUNITY CENTER
59 Winburn Way
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: August 6, 1997
STAFF REPORTS:
PLANNING ACTION 97-073 is a request for a Conditional Use Permit to add one
additional unit (total of 5) to the already existing four unit plus owner's quarters
traveller's accommodation located at 570 Siskiyou Boulevard. Comprehensive Plan
Designation: Multi-Family Residential; Zoning: R-2; Assessor's Map #: 39 1E 9BD;
Tax Lot: 4400.
APPLICANT: Laura Shrewsbury
PLANNING ACTION 97-082 is a request for a Variance to allow the height of the
existing rock wall to remain at 60 inches (front yard), 18 inches above what is required
by ordinance. The rock wall within the side yard is to remain at a height of 42 inches.
Comprehensive Plan Designation: Multi-Family Residential; Zoning: R-2; Assessor's
Map #: 39 1E 9AC; Tax Lot: 200.
APPLICANT: Dan Heller/Mary Beth Burton
OLD BUSINESS:
A. Review Board >> appointments/volunteers
B. Project Assignments for each Planning Action
C. Downtown Design Review Committee Update
D. Other
NEW BUSINESS
A. Election of City Council Liaison
B. Railroad District - National Register Grant Approval
C. Goal Setting/Orientation Meeting - think about November dates
D. Other
VI. ADJOURNMENT