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Minutes
August 6, 1997
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order at the Ashland Community Center by Chairperson Jim
Lewis at 7:40 p.m. Members present were Jim Lewis, Terry Skibby, Dale Shostrom, Keith
Chambers and Larry Cardinale. Also present was Associate Planner Mark Knox and
Secretary Sonja Akerman. Members Curt Anderson, Vava Bailey, Joyce Cowan and Carol
Abrahamson were absent.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Shostrom moved and Skibby seconded to approve the July 2, 1997 Minutes as submitted.
The motion was unanimously passed.
STAFF REPORTS
Planning Action 97-075
Conditional Use Permit
40 North Main Street
Christopher R. McIntosh
Knox explained this application is for the expansion and alteration of the Espresso Bar
which is on the southeast corner of Water and North Main Streets. The applicant proposes
to expand the use to allow a portable smokeless BBQ and food service. The Espresso Bar
was originally approved as a temporary use. The BBQ would be stored off site during the
off season, however, if it is successful, the owner would like to operate it year round. This
would add 171 square feet, bringing the site to a total of 471 square feet. Mclntosh
proposes to build a redwood enclosure around the unit. Knox said Staff is recommending
denial of this proposal because it goes beyond the temporary use threshold in creating more
of a permanent site. The expansion competes with the attempt of the Conditional Use
Permit chapter limiting the product sale. He also stated the use competes with other
merchants in the area which have fixed overhead and maintain building space.
Chris McIntosh explained he wouldn't set up the BBQ until next year if it is approved. It
will be fully enclosed in a redwood arbor, which will be 6' 10"high on the Water Street side,
which is the same height as the existing arbor. He said he has spoken with other merchants
in the area and has come up with a menu of mainly finger foods which won't conflict with
their businesses.
Shostrom asked where the public access would be located to purchase the food. McIntosh
replied customers would order from the Espresso Bar as they do now for drinks. Skibby
questioned the operation in the enclosure and Mclntosh said according to the Health
Department, the BBQ needs to be completely self-contained, which includes three sinks.
Mclntosh related he has been pleased with everybody's reaction to his proposal.
Knox stated the Commission needs to think about long term things as Staff believes this
expansion would have an impact on the marketability of businesses in downtown buildings.
The original application was adequate for a temporary use. The new use would have
impacts.
Cardinale said he feels the proposal detracts from the historic nature of the street. The
original use was temporary, but it is becoming more permanent. He concurs with Staff and
stated he can't support the application. Shostrom stated the proposed enclosure blocks the
openness of the site. He likes the airiness of the structure that exists now. Skibby agreed
and added the new structure will stand out. Lewis noted the deck was a nice expansion of
the Espresso Bar, but with the BBQ, it will no longer be temporary.
Chambers complimented Mclntosh for his thorough presentation. He said the Espresso Bar
has a positive ambiance, but feels the expansion is a little questionable, as it is almost taking
advantage of the Conditional Use Permit process. He added the location is wrong for an
expansion.
Cardinale moved to recommend denial of this application, as it is not going to add to the
historic nature of the streetscape, it is becoming more of a permanent structure, and it is
not in accordance with the vision of the Comprehensive Plan. Chambers seconded the
motion and it passed unanimously.
Planning Action 97-081
Variance
111 "B" Street
Joe Collonge
Knox gave the Staff Report, explaining the applicant proposes to remove the existing garage
and replace the structure with a 479 square foot caretaker's unit. The existing house is a
one-unit traveller's accommodation. Currently, the owner's quarters are located in the
basement, which offers poor living conditions. A Variance is being requested to reduce the
side and rear yard setbacks for the proposed cottage. It will have a three foot side yard
setback and a five foot front yard setback to the porch (this unit will front on Pioneer
Street). Staff feels the cottage has been attractively designed and is compatible with the
area; however, although the porch is nice looking, it is not usable. The Variance is being
requested to deviate from the standard setbacks. Staff is recommending denial because the
new unit would start competing with the streetscape and it is believed the building could be
moved back a few feet, keeping it more in line with the existing house. There is a tree in
the back yard, but Staff feels it is insignificant and could be removed.
When questioned by Skibby on the location, Knox said the garage is located five feet from
Pioneer Street. The porch would begin where the garage is. Although this proposed unit
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would be a nice addition to the neighborhood, Lewis said he agrees with Staff. Knox then
clarified parking will consist of two stacked spaces on site and one off-street credit.
Architect Phil Schwimmer stated the owner's intentions are to improve the streetscape by
removing the unattractive garage and replacing it with a compatible cottage, and to save the
tree in the back yard which provides privacy. The property is caught in a commercial area
and faces the Old Armory and Cantwell's on one side and a bank and Town Hall on the
other side. He explained the entire house (Fiddle Faddle Inn) is rented as one traveller's
accommodation unit. The owner would be caretaker of the yard. The porches and bay of
the Fiddle Family Inn protrude into the setback area and the proposed cottage would be
in this line. The porch was designed to be an entryway only. The owner did not want it to
be useable because of its proximity to the commercial area which is not open to residential
use. The existing garage is ugly and does not match the home. Also, there are no adjacent
residences on this side of Pioneer Street. The owner feels the loss of the tree would be
significant for the residential use and privacy.
Skibby asked Knox what front setback would satisfy Staff. Knox replied ten feet would
probably work, with an overhang. Staff feels the porch is not necessary and that a stoop
would work and be enough. The cottage would be too close and dominate the street the
way it is proposed.
Chambers noted the design is attractive but it is too close to the street. He feels it would
be obtrusive to people walking down the sidewalk. Lewis agreed the design is nice and said
it would be an asset to the neighborhood, but he would like to see it pushed back so it could
be built. He also thinks the Historic District would gain by having a nice little cottage
rather than adding on to the existing house for the needed space. The streetscape is
important and the cottage would just be too close.
The Commission questioned the overhang as drawn. Schwimmer said it was meant to mimic
the existing house which is 2-2½ feet. Cardinale said the overhang concept, as drawn, was
too wide for the cottage.
Chambers moved and Skibby seconded to recommend denial of the cottage as presented
based on the close front yard setback and the narrow unusable porch. It is the Commission
belief there are options which can be used to increase the setback and alter the porch design
in order to decrease the reduction of the Variance requested. The motion passed
unanimously.
Planning Action 97-072
Conditional Use Permit and Site Review
440 East Main Street
Steve Morasch
Knox related this proposal includes the removal and relocation of the two existing motor
fuel islands, and replacing them with two adjoining dispensing islands. The two island
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canopies would be replaced with one large canopy which would be 36' x 55'. The
underground tanks would also be removed and replaced as mandated by Federal and State
environmental regulations. This application is an expansion of a non-conforming use and
non-conforming structure. Also proposed is a change in the entrance/exit patterns through
a reconfiguration of the fueling stations. It is the interpretation of Staff that since one of
the fueling islands has not been used for several years, it is considered abandoned.
Therefore, the gas station is limited to the one active fuel island with the two existing
fueling locations. Staff also feels there would be problems with the traffic and increased use
on that corner. Knox said gas stations are not permitted in downtown and Staff has the
discretion to not allow non-conforming uses to expand. The proposed canopy is similar in
size to other gas stations out by the freeway. Since this is the entryway to downtown, Staff
does not feel the proposed canopy or the landscape come close to the standards.
Knox then showed slides of gas stations in other communities that have made efforts to
blend in more with the surrounding areas. He stated the City understands the need to
improve the site, but not to mimic the older buildings across the street. Staff would like to
see the proposed canopy eliminated, an increase in landscaping, and the minimization of
asphalt. What is being proposed is not much better than what exists. Also, the lighting
would cause glare issues which are not currently there. Staff wants the applicant to come
back with something better.
Attorney Steve Morasch, 1211 S.W.5th, Portland 97204, spoke for Western Stations (Astro).
He first quoted a segment from Kurt Vonnegut's commencement address at MIT which
stressed the importance of wearing sunscreen. Although Ashland doesn't get as much rain
as other areas in Oregon, hot weather in Ashland can cause problems also. It is vital for
Astro employees to be protected from inclement weather, whether it is rain, snow, ice or
sun. A canopy would protect both the customer and the employee. Since they are not
dealing with an historic structure, the designers looked at surrounding buildings and came
up with a compatible design for the canopy. The existing canopies are 20' x 30' and the
proposed canopy is 30'x 55'. It will be the same height. He pointed out the differences
between the existing and proposed canopies. He also presented a perspective of what the
proposed canopy will look like.
Referring to the lights, Skibby said they will stand out day and night. Morasch stated there
will be recessed lights in the canopy and will only be turned on at night. Skibby pointed out
the existing lighting is completely exposed.
Glen, Vice President of Western Stations, stated the purpose of the lighting is to convey
safety. The lights will not be seen and they will be an improvement of what is there now.
When questioned by Skibby, he answered the lights will be on a timer system.
Lewis asked if the canopy is a standard design for the Astro stations. Glen said there is no
standard plan because when his company was established in 1970, existing stations were
bought. He said canopies are being added at all their stations in order to protect the entire
facility.
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Morasch noted part of the development is to change the sign to wood. The standard bright
yellow color will not be used.
Knox informed the representatives
standard as in the downtown area.
street lights on the plan.
of Astro the City would like to keep the street lighting
In addition to the canopy lighting, he only located three
Lewis asked if there was a way to condense the size of the canopy. Dave Kimmel, project
designer, answered it would be difficult because of the significant amount of traffic from two
sides. Since they anticipate the same traffic flow, they have put a little more width between
the islands. The intent is to get all on-site improvements to include pedestrian traffic also
and to encourage the traffic circulation flow.
Morasch stated the proposed landscaping exceeds the requirements by 20%. They have
proposed juniper because it is draught tolerant He also said since raised beds are
prohibited, they have not proposed any. They will also be ringing the property with street
trees.
At 10:00, Skibby moved and Shostrom seconded to extend the meeting to 10:30. The motion
passed unanimously.
Shostrom commented the plan does not show the topography elevations. The ground slopes
downhill from Main to Lithia. Kimmel said the intent is to flatten out the land because it
is not good to fill tanks on a slope. He also noted the plants that were chosen go with the
site and flattened area.
Chambers commented the citizens of Ashland recognize and appreciate the historic nature
of downtown. This is a major corner and he doesn't feel the proposed canopy would be
appropriate for the area. After viewing the slides, he said he believes a more creative
solution could be accomplished. He thanked Knox for the slide presentation.
Shostrom said he is concerned with the scale of the canopies that exist versus the proposed
canopy, which is 60% larger when the two existing ones are combined into one. When
asked about the width of the canopy roof, Kimmel answered it will be 31/2 feet thick.
Shostrom commented that adds to the visibility of the canopy. It seems to him, the width
could be reduced to minimize the impact.
Skibby expressed his concern with the mimicking design of the canopy using the cornices of
the building across the street, and questioned the compatibility. He also said that because
of the orientation and angle of the property, the massing is a change in the viewscape and
light. Lewis commented he is concerned with the gross size of the canopy. He likes the
addition of the trees surrounding the site. He also remarked this triangular lot is a visual
open area now and he feels a gas station with a low impact design would be an asset. A
smaller canopy would be better and less obtrusive.
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Chambers said the proposed design does not appear to meet the criteria of a Conditional
Use Permit. It is a massive expansion of a non-conforming use. He challenged Western
Stations to rethink the design concept of less presence.
Chambers then moved to recommend denial of this application to the Planning Commission
because the design is not in conformance with the following specific Conditional Use Permit
criteria in Chapter 18.104.050: 1) Similarity in scale, bulk, and coverage, 3) architectural
compatibility with the impact area, and 6) the development of adjacent properties as envisioned
in the Comprehensive Plan. Skibby seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
At 10:30, Skibby moved and Chambers seconded to extend the meeting until 11.'00. The motion
was unanimously passed.
BUILDING PERMITS
Permits reviewed by members of the Historic Commission and issued during the month of
July follow:
31 Water Street
4 Hillcrest Street
142 Sixth Street
70 Water Street
115 Fork Street
320 Iowa Street
437 Fourth Street
447 Scenic Drive
461 Allison Street
370 Lithia Way
835 Blaine Street
307 Meade Street
286 Vista Street
142 Sixth Street
253 East Main Street
37 Third Street
20 South First Street
Lloyd Haines
Sara Johnson
Stephanie Johnson
Ann Clouse
Larry Medinger
Wayne & Joan Brown
Joe Garfas
Floyd Flood
Sarah Swales
Agnes Korn
Keith & Ann Chambers
Cynthia Ceteras
Sid& Karen DeBoer
Stephanie Johnson
Zeus Juice
Siskiyou Adventures
The Living Gallery
Fire Damage Repair
Deck/Front Porch
Partial Demolition SFR
Flood Damage Repair
Replae Garage
Garage Remodel
Remodel
Addition
Remodel/Addition
Reroof
Remodel/Deck
Carport/Screen Porch
Demolition SFR*
Remodel/Addition
Sign
Sign
Sign
* Disapproved
REVIEW BOARD
Following is the schedule (until the next meeting) for the Review Board, which meets every
Thursday from 3:00 to at least 3:30 p.m. in the Planning Department:
August 7
August 14
Skibby and Cowan
Abrahamson, Lewis and Skibby
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August 21
August 28
Skibby and Shostrom
Cowan, Abrahamson and Skibby
OLD BUSINESS
Project Assignments for Planning Actions
PAll [ Address I Person(s) Assigned
96-063 62-66 East Main Street Terry Skibby
96-058 264 Van Ness Avenue Jim Lewis
96-086 685 "A" Street Curt Anderson/Jim Lewis
96-110 499 Iowa Street Joyce Cowan
96-112 249 "A" Street Jim Lewis
96-139 545 "A" Street Terry Skibby
97-014 20 South First Street Joyce Cowan
96-143/97-030 136 North Second Street Terry Skibby
97-018 661 "B" Street Jim Lewis
97-032 174 Church Street Vava Bailey
97-039 78 Sixth Street Jim Lewis
97-053 565 "A" Street Jim Lewis
OLD BUSINESS
August 19 City Council Meeeting
Knox reminded the Commissioners
Council meeting and how important
members would speak.
they would be introduced at the August 19th City
it is for all to attend. Discussion ensued on which
NEW BUSINESS
Flood Restoration Meeting
Knox emphasized the significance of the bridge replacement on Winburn Way and stated
there would be a meeting the following night. Lewis added this is a very important area in
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the Historic District. Lithia Park is on the National Register and the Plaza area has been
designated eligible for placement on the National Register. He said he planned to attend
the meeting.
Election of Officers
Chambers moved and Cardinale seconded to retain the current officers. Chairperson is
Lewis, Vice Chair is Skibby, Planning Commission Liaison is Skibby. We still need a City
Council Liaison. The motion passed unanimously.
Letter from Kay Atwood
Skibby emphasized the importantance of adding Hargadine Cemetery to the National
Register and the Commission agreed. Skibby moved and Shostrom seconded to proceed
with the acquisition of funding for Kay Atwood to research Hargadine Cemetery. The
motion passsed unanimously. Knox will write a letter to Community Development Director
John McLaughlin and Finance Director Jill Turner.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the unanimous decision of the Commission to adjourn the meeting at 11:00 p.m.
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ASHLAND HISTORIC COMMISSION
Agenda
August 6, 1997
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CALL TO ORDER: 7:30 p.m. - ASHLAND COMMUNITY CENTER
59 Winburn Way
APPROVAL OF MINUTES: July 2, 1997
STAFF REPORTS:
PLANNING ACTION 97-075 is a request for a Conditional Use Permit for the
expansion/alteration of the temporary use at 40 North Main Street. The proposal is to
permit a portable BBQ adjacent to the existing Espresso Bar. Comprehensive Plan
Designation: Commercial; Zoning: C-i; Assessor's Map #: 39 1E 9B; Tax Lot
10100.
APPLICANT: Christopher R. McIntosh
PLANNING ACTION 97-081 is a request for a side and rear yard variance to
construct an owner's unit at 111 B Street. The existing garage is to be removed. The
owner's unit will have a three foot side yard setback and a five foot front yard setback
to the porch (8' to the building wall). Comprehensive Plan Designation: Multi-Family
Residential; Zoning: R-2; Assessor's Map #: 39 1E 09BA: Tax Lot: 13300.
APPLICANT: Joe Collonge
PLANNING ACTION 97-072 is a request for a Conditional Use Permit and Site
Review for the alteration/expansion of an existing non-conforming use. The proposed
renovation includes removal and relocation of the two existing motor fuel islands, and
replacing them with two adjoining dispensing islands. A new, free standing island
canopy, 36 feet in length by 55 feet in width, will be installed to provide a cover over
the dispensing islands. Comprehensive Plan Designation: Commercial; Zoning: C-l-
D; Assessor's Map #39 1E 09 BD; Tax Lot: 801.
APPLICANT: Steve Morasch
OLD BUSINESS:
A. Review Board >> appointments/volunteers
B. Project Assignments for each Planning Action
C. Downtown Design Review Committee Update
D. Draft Letter Regarding the Location of Transformers
E. Introduction of Historic Commission at August 19th City Council Meeting
F. Other
V. NEW BUSINESS
A. Flood Restoration Update - Winburn Way Bridge
B. Letter from Kay Atwood regarding Hargadine Cemetery
C. Election of Officers
D. Other
VI. ADJOURNMENT