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Minutes
October 4, 1994
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Jim Lewis at 7:40 p.m. Members present
were Terry Skibby, H.L. Wood, Larry Cardinale, Jim Lewis, Bill Harriff, Steve Ennis and
Keith Chambers. Also present were Senior Planner Bill Molnar and Secretary Sonja
Akerman. Casey Mitchell and Chloe Winston were absent.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Ennis moved and Skibby seconded to approve the Minutes of the September 7, 1994
meeting as submitted. The motion passed unanimously.
STAFF REPORTS
PA 94-121
Site Review
50-52 East Main Street (F.L. Camps Building)
Oregon Shakespeare Festival Association (OSFA)
Molnar explained OSFA plans to completely remodel the second floor of the F.L. Camps
Building and construct a 646 square foot addition located where the old one was removed.
A wood deck will also be constructed. The exterior will match the worn brick facade, and
the skywall on the west side that has been covered up for years will be rebuilt. Also, all the
second floor windows will be replaced. Molnar noted OSFA will be working with an
arborist and taking extreme precautions to retain the ivy. There will be minor changes in
the landscaped areas. Also, new ramping will replace two existing short stairways.
Cardinale asked about the new transformer to be located near the Chautauqua Walk and
how it will be screened. Molnar stated if it were concealed by lattice, it would probably
attract more attention, so plantings will be used to screen it. Ennis wondered if there would
be enough room for plantings. Gary Afseth, architect for the project, stated there should
be three feet on each side of the pad the transformer will sit upon.
Skibby asked about the brick on the east wall. Afseth related the plans call for brick which
will replace the wood framed walls. The brick facade will consist of masonry walls with full-
sized brick as a veneer. Afseth clarified, when asked by Cardinale, that the brick will be on
all three walls.
In discussing the skywall, Skibby noted the building was designed by Frank Clark and the
skywall existed in a 1913 photo he had. It was probably removed in the 1940s. Afseth said
the skywall will be a full size five unit panel that will match what is existing below. He also
related all the windows will be new wood double hung ones with painted metal frames. He
went on to say they also plan to restore the pilasters and pediments.
Ennis questioned the area between the grate and new wall. Afseth said it will be a planter.
The grate will be raised a little to accommodate the new ramp. Ennis also asked about the
deck area and the Chautauqua Walk. Afseth answered the stairway will be curved and
narrowed from 15 feet to 10 feet to create a softer transition to the brick rather than just
a straight line. This will blend in more with the landscaping. Ennis stated it will change the
traffic flow and Afseth agreed. Chambers wondered if this would give the public a restricted
feeling. Afseth said they are only adding 100 square feet more than the old addition that
was removed. He said he felt it will create a larger visual space and will average out well.
Also, OSFA is comfortable with it. When asked about the ramp, Afseth said it will provide
ADA access to Macaroni's and to the Camps Building.
Skibby said he felt this was a good design and would feel comfortable approving the plan.
Chambers questioned Molnar about the proposed deck and if it will be located on public
or private property. Molnar said he assumed it will be on private property, but that will
need to be cleared up in the final survey. He apprised the Commission the OSFA theaters
are located on City property and the land is leased. Any encroachment on City property,
however, could be approved by the City Council.
Skibby asked about the center rail on the stairway, and Afseth said it will probably be
replaced due to ADA requirements.
Chambers asked Afseth if they had considered a smaller deck and giving two feet back to
the walkway. Afseth said it was discussed at length with OSFA and the landscapers, who
all felt ten feet would be ample. Of course, they would be willing to take another look.
Ron Thurner, 1170 Bellview Avenue, said he would like to address the issue of seismic
retrofitting of the building. Afseth said this is being done now. The Site Review is Phase
II of the project, while Phase I consisted of interior strengthening of the walls against
earthquake forces. Afseth also noted the building will be receiving a new roof. Phase I is
almost complete.
Skibby moved to recommend approval of this action. Ennis amended the motion, stating
the Historic Commission would like to add the owner and architect consider widening the
walkway two to three more feet in order to allow a smoother traffic flow. Skibby agreed
to this amendment. Cardinale seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
PA 94-117
Site Review and Outline Plan Approval
Church Street
M.H. Hedges
Molnar explained this application is for a seven-unit, seven-lot, multi-family townhouse
subdivision. Each unit will be on its own tax lot, while the open space will be owned in
common. Five of the seven units will be connected by common walls. The architect has
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made the structures compatible with those on the opposite side of Church Street. The
majority of the parking will be off the alley behind the Bard's Inn Annex. There are five
existing large trees on the property which will be retained. A lap pool will be constructed
in the open space area. The height of the buildings seems to be a concern of the neighbors
along Church Street. The highest gable will be 29 feet. Molnar noted the building heights
in the area, from approximately 16 feet (Pat Sprague's Real Estate Office) to Bard's Inn
Annex at around 36 feet. He explained 35 feet is the maximum height in a residential zone.
Harriff asked about building heights on Church Street. Molnar said the Pat Sprague Annex
is around 25 feet and the single story houses are probably around 16 feet. The proposed
heights of the townhouses average 24¥2 feet.
Molnar continued, stating Staff is recommending this action be continued and heard at the
November meeting. Concerns include 1) lot coverage (65% is allowed in an R-2 zone, 72%
is being proposed), 2) design configuration for backup and parking areas off alley, 3) density
(6.95 or 6 units are allowed, 7 units are requested - however, the lap pool, which is part of
lot coverage, may be used for density bonus), and 4) solar waiver potentially needed for one
of the units. Currently, there is not enough information.
Lewis stated he feels the project would look more friendly if there was a separation between
the buildings. Harriff agreed and said the Church Street side seems imposing. He
suggested cutting back to six units, as it would fit better into the neighborhood. The scale
and massing should be reduced. Ennis said he also agreed, but stated the project itself is
well designed. He suggested reorienting the buildings, and also said the neighbors would
get a better perspective if they could see a three dimensional view of the project, as the
lines of the buildings are broken up and not in a straight line.
The Commission agreed if taken individually, the designs are very nice.
Harriff asked the designer, David Larsen, if he had explored separating the buildings.
Larsen answered there is energy savings involved in having fewer exterior walls. The yards,
fences and trees will also break up the design. Ennis commented he felt the tower on the
corner would be too much and that he has seen too many of them lately.
Mary Maher, 56 Church Street, stated she is concerned with the massiveness of the project.
It is disheartening because she is not a developer. When she bought her house, she said she
checked with the Planning Office about the lot across the street and was told since it was
zoned residential and in the Historic District, it could not be anything massive. She said she
is very distressed and added the developer never talked with any of the neighbors.
David Larsen responded the owners are not developers, but want to do something that will
fit into the neighborhood. Steve Morjig, 610 Chestnut, said he may be the contractor for
the project and that he was under the impression the owner had spoken with a number of
neighbors.
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Ron Thurner asked Molnar about density bonus points and related his understanding was
that fractions did not count; therefore, there would only be six units that could be approved.
Molnar confirmed fractions don't count, but asserted it is possible to gain bonus points using
energy conservation and water conservation in the project. He noted that even though the
height restriction will be met, scale and massing need to be addressed, especially with
respect to the Site Design and Use Standards in the Historic District.
Larsen explained the townhouses are 22 feet wide and the actual second floor is built into
the roof structure. He said he worked within the codes, but he is willing to look at options.
He added the garages are all roof top gardens.
Winn Frankland, 122 High Street, concurred about the massing. She said this lot is not
much bigger than hers, and if she would have known about this project, she would not have
bought her house. The access to her carport is through the alley and she is concerned about
the increased traffic.
Dennis Jarvi, 117 High Street, said nobody was apprised of this project. Some had heard
there would be four units, but this is the first they heard of seven units. The neighbors are
concerned with kids and traffic.
Morjig suggested the neighbors get together and send a letter of their concerns to the
owner.
Ennis recommended the garage with unit 1 be flipped with unit 2, and perhaps unit 3 pulled
over. Larsen said he dealt with what was there. The driveway cut was existing and the
transformer box for Bard's Inn needed to be taken into consideration.
Mark Jenne, 92 Church Street, said he does not have much appreciation for economic
hardship in this case, as the owner of the lot will make money with five or six units. He
does like the architecture. He also does not object to the alley units, but he does object to
the Church Street side. You will see a long unbroken building, which is not in character
with Ashland. If the middle structure on the Church Street side were removed, he could
live with it.
Lisa Schumaker, 122 High Street, conveyed she also is concerned with the alleyway and the
density of traffic in the area. She said she would not like to have that many cars and kids
in the alley. She would like to see less units to deal with the density. Lewis stated these
concerns should be brought to the Planning Commission meeting.
Thurner said he would like to amplify the comment about the project meeting the standards.
The Planning and Historic Commissions have a great deal of latitude because it is in the
Historic District. The Site Design Standards apply. Obviously, there are quite a few
outstanding issues not addressed at this time. A change of 2% could dramatically alter the
design of the project. He wanted assurance it would come before the Historic Commission
again if it is continued. Molnar stated the Commission needs to give clear design
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recommendations, and Staff has not attached conditions yet. Therefore, if the Planning
Commission agrees to a continuance, this will come before the Historic Commission again
in November.
Morjig stated some of the areas of concern are ready to be addressed now. Larsen
indicated he had redone the landscaping and the lot coverage is now down to 62%. The
patios have been removed and replaced with lawn. He noted the building footprint covers
only 33% of the total area.
Harriff maintained he liked a lot of the design elements and he does not want to see the
design replaced with something ugly. However, he feels that too much is being crammed
in and the increased traffic will crowd the alley. If one unit were to be removed, it would
help. His concerns are with the density and massiveness of the project. Larsen noted the
alley width has been doubled.
Ennis said since the Commission is agreeing on the overall architectural design, he wants
it to be clear this is separate from the Planning issues.
Chambers moved to generally recommend approval of the overall nature of the design, but
that the Commission is recommending a continuance based on the factors of streetscape on
Church Street, which could be alleviated by eliminating the center unit to be more in scale
with the residential nature of the street. Harriff seconded the motion and it passed
unanimously.
(Chambers and Molnar left at this time - 9:30 p.m.)
BUILDING PERMITS
Permits reviewed by members of the Historic Commission and issued during the month of
September follow:
125 North Main Street
168 Meade Street
250 Oak Street
20 Helman Street
521 North Main Street
15 North First Street
Elaine Martens
Ted Clay
Lance Pugh
Bard's Inn
Helping Hands/Dr. Scott Young
Firefly Restaurant
Remodel Basement
Demolition SFR
Tenant Improvement
12 Motel Units
Sign
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REVIEW BOARD
Following is the schedule (until the next meeting) for the Review Board, which meets every
Thursday at least from 3:00 to 3:30 p.m. in the Planning Department:
October 6
October 13
Skibby and Cardinale
Skibby, Lewis and Wood
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October 20
October 27
Skibby, Lewis and Wood
Skibby, Cardinale and Winston
OLD BUSINESS
Siskiyou Boulevard Changes
Skibby reported he had met with two representatives from the Oregon Department of
Transportation (ODOT) and Pam Barlow (from Public Works) on September 14th. ODOT
is doing an environmental assessment of Siskiyou Boulevard. It will be looking at eligibility
for the National Register as if Siskiyou Boulevard was actually on the Register. He pointed
out the islands have been changed quite a few times over the years. More public meetings
will take place before final plans are drawn up. They are currently in a preliminary stage.
Lewis reiterated the importance of retaining the islands, even though they may be reduced.
Skibby said the State plans to extend the islands to Walker Avenue, and asked if the
Commission felt there should be a separation of the historic islands with the new ones.
Ennis stated the development along Siskiyou Boulevard will make the distinction. Skibby
also noted vegetation will be addressed at a later time.
Seismic Retrofittine
This will be put on hold to await Building Official Mike Broomfield's preliminaries.
Goals
The top three ranked goals were discussed. 1) Help move ahead the currently stalled alley
initiative with presentation to City Council. 2) Run monthly meetings more effectively by
controlling and limiting public testimony to the issues being directly considered. 3) Promote
adoption of Historic Preservation Ordinance and Heritage Landmarks' List.
Lewis stated the alley issue will be addressed within the ODOT grant recently received by
the Cities of Ashland and Jacksonville. Also, the Planning Department is moving forward
in its attempt to become a Certified Local Government (CLG). In the process, the primary
goals to accomplish before next June include: adoption of the Historic Preservation
Ordinance, adoption and updating of the interim Heritage Landmarks List, and the
development of set specific design guidelines for each area within the Historic District.
New Railroad Park
Lewis stated the Parks Department would like Historic Commission input on the placement
of the plaques. It was decided Lewis would talk to Ken or Steve in Parks to request
information on the budget, and to let it be known the Commission would like to see Bill
Emerson's plan of the area, which was dated May 23, 1994, go into effect.
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Proposed House at 228 "B" Street
The Commission took an informal look at the revised plans for the proposed house at 228
"B" Street. Skibby will inform the owner of Historic Commission concerns.
NEW BUSINESS
Renaming the Plaza
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In consideration of the letter to the Mayor sent by Jud Finley regarding renaming the Plaza
area HELMANPLAZA, the Commission unanimously agreed with Kay Atwood's statements
on why the name should remain as it is. Ennis so moved and Harriff seconded the motion.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the unanimous decision of the Commission to adjourn the meeting at 10:30 p.m.
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