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Minutes
June 2, 1993
CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Jim Lewis at 7:38 p.m. Members present
were Jim Lewis, Terry Skibby, Le Hook, H.L. Wood, Dana Johnson, and Steve Ennis. Also
present were Associate Planner Bill Molnar, and Secretary Sonja Akerman. Nan Hannon,
Keith Chambers, and Jane Dancer were absent.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Skibby stated on page 8 of the May 5, 1993 Minutes, he sent a letter to Dick Ackerman, not
Rick. Hook then moved to approve the Minutes as corrected. Johnson seconded the
motion and it was unanimously approved.
STAFF REPORTS
PA 93-045
Minor Land Partition
99 Granite Street
Stephen Cary
Molnar explained last month this was on the agenda as a three lot subdivision, and as
explained at the last meeting, Staff had erred because a lot cannot be created where the
width is greater than the depth. The applicant has had the surveyor resubmit the request
as a two lot partition. Staff is recommending approval of this, with the driveway to be paved
to 15 feet, which will be usable access to both lots.
Skibby wondered what size structure could be built on the Pine Street lot. Molnar said 45%
could be covered by impervious surface, which would be approximately 5,000 square feet.
Skibby remarked the building will be very visible from Granite Street.
When Johnson questioned Molnar about the revised two lot partition, he said it seems to
have satisfied the neighbors.
Hook moved and Johnson seconded to recommend approval of this proposal. The motion
passed unanimously.
PA 93-053
Site Review
230 Van Ness Avenue
Darrell A. Boldt and Lana McGraw Boldt
Molnar related this was also heard last month, however, because the partition section of the
ordinance states the flag drive needs to be paved, a Variance is required not to pave.
Increased traffic along the alley was a concern of both the Historic Commission and the
Planning Commission. There is a potential of adding 18 to 22 units on undeveloped
property off the alley. This would result in approximately 200 vehicle trips per day.
Planning is not as concerned about this alley serving as a short cut because it will not
provide access for non-local traffic. The "T' intersection also limits its use. Peak hours of
traffic would be 7:30-8:30 a.m. and 4:30-5:30 p.m.
An alternate landscape plan has been proposed by the Staff to help break up the parking
area in creating a more aesthetic alleyscape, while discouraging the "parking lot" effect of
the alley. Alley paving will be deferred, but it will be graded to 15 feet and crushed rock
will be required. Staff is recommending the alley be graded from Laurel Street to the end
of the property (which would leave 100 feet unimproved). The owner will have the option
to improve this 100 feet. As explained in the Staff Report, paved coverage with alley access
is 14.6%, while it increases to 50.9% if the flag access were to be used.
The Commission discussed potential development in the alley area. Molnar stated Staff will
be paying closer attention to the alleyscape by incorporating porches, landscaping, etc.
Darrell Boldt presented new elevations. The Commission appreciated the design changes.
Hook stated he is still in favor of the alley access, especially after examining the percentages
of paving. This proposal will set the precedence for later development. Lewis agreed, and
added he would rather have the trees in the flag drive than asphalt.
Boldt said it would have greatly diminished the yard space if the flag drive was used for
access. The alternate plan has a lot of merit, but he would like to save the box elder, and
he would be sacrificing some lawn area by the parking space # 1.
Ennis questioned the footprint of the townhouses as redesigned. Boldt said it was slightly
enlarged when he changed the design of the structure, and he is looking at scaling down the
size because of the encroachment in the parking area, as he needs to maintain the outside
clearances.
Wood stated the small open space (as the applicant has proposed directly off the alley)
could be used by the tennants. The Staff proposal would lose that area and replace it with
islands that cannot be used. Ennis said he did not feel it would be as beneficial as Wood
contends because of the large area allotted for backyards, and he doesn't feel it would be
used. Hook did not agree with Ennis, but said he could understand. He thinks the area
would be used, but realizes there are trade-offs involved. Wood said he hoped there would
be a community feel to the project and the open area would be used.
Molnar interjected by stating Staff was trying to visualize long term development by
breaking up the parking.
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The Commission discussed the possibility of six required parking spaces rather than seven
if on-street parking credits are feasible. This would eliminate parking space #1 and the
open space could be preserved.
Ron Thurner, 1170 Bellview Avenue, stated he would like to see the use of the alley as part
of the back up space encouraged. He then questioned the vision clearance of parking space
#1 due to the box elder. Molnar said the traffic study didn't address vision clearance so it
will have to be checked.
Ennis recommended the trim board separating the units be painted a different color.
It was the consensus of the Commission the alley should be used as access. Ennis
commented a much better project results when all people involved put their heads together.
Ennis then moved to recommend approval of this application with the following comments:
1) the revised elevations be approved as presented at the meeting, however, the applicant
be encouraged to do more work on the back elevation and present to the Review Board to
further break up the design; 2) the alternate parking landscape design appears to be the
best solution, and if Staff could investigate using on-street credit to reduce required parking,
the lawn area would be conserved; and 3) alley be improved to end of property only. Hook
seconded the motion and it was unanimously approved. A liaison will attend the Planning
Commission meeting.
PA 93-075
Site Review
310 Oak Street
Tim Cusick/Lance Pugh
This application is for the remodel of the existing car wash into 2,200 square feet of retail
space, explained Molnar. This is one element of the overall face lift of the property and is
a permitted use in the E-1 zone. The back of the building will face the armory.
Although not part of this planning action, Ennis stated the new gutters on the armory have a
strong negative effect on the building. Hook added this should have come to the full
Commission. Skibby and Lewis explained the need for this new system. Tim Cusick later said
he has communicated with the State Historic Preservation Office regarding this and was tom to
match the gutter on the left for the right side of the building.
Skibby said the design is compatible and less imitative of the armory than when plans were
first presented. Lewis explained the similar features with Cantwell's Market, tying it in to
the improvements. Also discussed was parking/circulation.
Tim Cusick explained he has received many inquiries requesting information about the
spaces which will be available - from doctor's office to pizza parlor.
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Ennis stated this is a great improvement from what is existing.
Johnson moved and Skibby seconded to recommend approval of this application to the
Planning Commission. The motion was unanimously approved.
PA 93-085
Conditional Use Permit
Under the Viaduct on Water Street
Gary Voget
Molnar said this Conditional Use Permit application is for the temporary use of an outdoor
fresh flower stand which will be open from June through September. Various cities look
at temporary uses to provide a more dynamic pedestrian area, to fill in gaps along vacant
spaces, and to generate energy in the area. Negative aspects include non-payment of
rent/taxes and they compete with uses already established in the area. Staff's main concern
is that single cart uses have always had the policy of having to get approval from private
property for a location; no public property has been used. Larger uses in the public right-of-
way have been allowed (i.e. Grower's Market). The concern in this case is what the benefit
to the City would be, if any. It appears to be more a benefit to the cart owner. Therefore,
Staff is hesitant to recommend approval for a for-profit vendor. This is, however, a unique
situation, as it is an underutilized area. The Planning Commission has the option of
approving this application as a test case, then reviewing it again in a year, or denying it.
Lewis questioned the liability factor involved and wondered if there would be problems like
the Marketplace has had. Hook said it seems as though approval of this application would
be undermining existing merchants, and he is disinclined to set a precedence with this area.
Johnson agreed and said it could open a "can of worms".
Ron Thurner wondered why there would be a separation between large and small
businesses, as there could be competition to local businesses with the Grower's Market.
Lewis said the Market is only there once a week for half a day, and it is required to have
at least 60% of the vendors sell agricultural goods.
Wood questioned why the City has a say in this if the State owns the property. Molnar
answered it is because this is a temporary use. The applicant will be required to have
permission from the State in writing if it is approved.
Hook stated he totally agreed with the Staff Report, then made a motion quoting Staff's
conclusion in saying the Historic Commission "cannot recommend approval of a single
temporary use located on public right-of-way. While there may be a demand for the flower
sales, it is more appropriate that the use be located on private property, and that the use
not be subsidized by locating on public lands." Wood seconded the motion and it passed
unanimously.
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PA 93-084
Modification of Previously Approved Site Review
277 Fifth Street
Daniel D. Jackson, D.D.S.
Molnar explained the applicant's original approval for the front setback off "A" Street was
14 feet. The Site Design and Use Standards states the setbacks may not be more than 20
feet, and strongly urges orientation of the development toward the street. The applicant
now proposes to move the bulk of the building back to 26 feet, with an entry area located
18 feet back from the property line. One concern is that a large douglas fir would have to
be removed. Staff felt the original proposal was good, so it came up with a compromise,
whereby the main portion of the building would be set back 18 feet, thus saving the tree.
The owner has said the reasons for moving the building back include retaining the view of
the hills with the future development across the street, and to be more in line with the
business located adjacent to the site.
Hook said he would argue against cutting down the tree, as it is the largest one in the area.
Dan Jackson clarified his idea to have the setback moved back would put it more in line
with Euro-Mek and the building next to it. He wanted the porch (or entry area) 20 feet
from the sidewalk, and was under the impression this would meet the standards.
Lewis said he felt it would be detrimental to lose the tree. Jackson said he didn't want to
see the tree go either, but with a possible two story development across the street, he
wanted to place his building as far back as possible. Many trees have already been saved
because of the layout of the sidewalk. A building twice the size of the proposed one would
be allowed on the lot. Because of his investment, he does not want the building too close
to the street and feels it would look nicer if it were moved back. He remarked it would be
nice to have more greenway and space between the street and the building. He also added
the Staff compromise had already been agreed upon and the plans in the office depicted
this, so he did not feel it was a compromise. In order to move the building back as far as
he has done, he was required to enlarge the porch to eight feet (his compromise). If not
allowed, he would like to have the porch scaled down to four feet again.
Ennis remarked the Staff compromise would not only save the tree but it also meets the
intent of the ordinances. Although he would prefer the eight foot porch, he could
understand why the owner would like to change it back to four feet.
Ennis then moved to recommend denial of the application and to amend the currently
approved building permit to have the porch reduced from eight feet to four feet as originally
drawn, and the setback from "A" Street property line to the building should remain at 18
feet, which saves the tree and seems to meet the intent of the ordinances. Hook seconded
the motion and it passed unanimously.
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BUILDING PERMITS
Permits reviewed by members of the Historic Commission and issued during the month of
May follow:
228 "B" Street John Ferguson Remodel
126 Nursery Street Brent Thompson Remodel
881 East Main Street Richard Brock Skylights/Reroof
227 Fifth Street Dan & Linda Jackson Demolition SFR
928 "B" Street Harry Bornstein Plan Revision
182 Scenic Drive Crissy Barnett Retaining Wall
122 Helman Street Barry Baker Remodel/Addition
310 Oak Street Tom Cantwell Remodel
237 First Street Ashland Community Food Store Food Store
556 "B" Street Adv for Severely Handicapped Addition
372 East Main Street Andy South Bathroom Addition
234 Vista Street Sid DeBoer Swimming Pool
130 Will Dodge Way Sid Ainsworth Remodel
105 Nob Hill Street Jim & Barbara Wilson Remodel
622 Siskiyou Boulevard Lombard, Knudsen & Holtey Sign
47 North Main Street Plaza Cafe Sign
20 South First Street Twenty South First Street Sign
3 Granite Street Bento's Express Sign
Lithia Way/Second St. Ashland Marketplace Sign
REVIEW BOARD
Following is the schedule (until the next meeting) for the Review Board, which meets every
Thursday at least from 3:00 to 3:30 p.m. in the Planning Department:
June 3
June 10
June 17
June 24
July 1
Lewis and Skibby
Wood, Skibby and Dancer
Lewis, Ennis, Chambers and Skibby
Hook, Johnson, Wood and Skibby
Skibby and Dancer
OLD BUSINESS
Loss of Residential Housing
Ennis reported the subcommittee had met on May 12 and had incorporated changes which
were suggested at the joint study session. The draft was submitted to John McLaughlin for
comments, and Ennis will meet with him on June 1 lth.
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Cemetery Nominations to National Register
Lewis stated he, Johnson and Skibby had met with Kay Atwood regarding where and how
to proceed. Since half the money will be available from the City in July, she will begin the
preliminary work. A memo will be submitted to the City Council explaining the progress.
Applegate Trail Plaque
Draft #5 was a major improvement in the wording for the proposed plaque. There are still
a few grammatical errors. Placement will be discussed when the final draft is presented.
(With a motion by Skibby and second by Ennis, it was the unanimous decision to extend the
meeting past 10:30 p.m.)
NEW BUSINESS
Election of Officers
Because of the lateness and the fact that three members were absent, election of officers
will be at the next meeting.
Railroad Park
Lewis reported he will be attending the next Parks & Recreation Commission meeting, as
the development of the new park will begin soon. He requested a letter be sent thanking
the Parks Commission and seeking input on the appropriate place for the golden spike
commemorative.
Hook moved and Skibby seconded to authorize Lewis write the letter. The motion passed
unanimously.
Heritage Sunday
Skibby related Heritage Sunday will be on June 27th at Lincoln School. Since it is the
anniversary of the Oregon Trail and Applegate Trail, photos and displays will be set up.
Volunteers are needed.
Goal Setting/Orientation Meetine
It was decided Monday, July 19th would be the best date for the goal setting/orientation
dinner meeting. July 26th is the alternate date.
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Open Space Memo from Hal Cloer
Lewis and Skibby will work together as a subcommittee to consider means to encourage
property owners to opt for open space as a way of minimizing property taxes without
radically changing the character of the neighborhoods.
ADJOURNMENT
With a motion by Hook and second by Skibby, it was the unanimous decision to adjourn the
meeting at 10:55 p.m.
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