HomeMy WebLinkAbout2004-0408 Cont. Meeting MINASHLAND CITY COUNCIL - CONTINUED MEETING
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MINUTES FOR THE CONTINUED MEETING
ASHLAND CITY COUNCIL
April 8, 2(}04 - 6:00 p.m.
Civic Center Council Chambers, 1175 E Main Street
Call to Order
Meeting was called to order at 6:03 p.m. in the Civic Center Council Chambers.
Roll Call
Councilor Laws, Hartzell, Jackson, Morrison, Hearn and Amarotico were present.
Mayor DeBoer had previously been awarded reclusat by the Council due to his relation to the applicant.
Continued Public Hearing
1. Appeal of Planning Action 2003-118, a request for a Physical & Environmental Constraints
Permit to construct a single family residential home on Hillside Lands within a Historic
District. Applicant: Sidney and Karen DeBoer.
Ex parte contact:
Councilor Morrison noted a site visit. Councilor Hearn received additional emails which were also
submitted to the rest of the council. Council Hartzell entered into the record a flyer from the DeBoer's
that was received by a neighbor. She also received a call from Pete Hawes, 431 Courtney Street. Hartzell
stated she does not believe that either of these contacts influenced her in anyway.
OPPOSED TO APPLICANT:
Colin Swales, 461 Alison, stated he was an appellant to the case. Mr. Swales presented a slide show
indicating the tree canopy and the trees that have already removed, and stated this property can be seen
from alt over town. He explained a list of trees that have already been removed from the property and
those that are scheduled to be removed. He noted some are in the public right of way. Mr. Swales
explained the criteria for approval, and stated the applicant's attorney who spoke at the previous meeting
failed to convey the 4th criteria which states that "The developer is in compliance with the requirements
of the charts and all other applicable city ordinances and codes." Mr. Swales stated this is very important
because not only does this project not comply with the Hillside Ordinance, but also the RI zoning
ordinance. Mr. Swales explained that during the Historic Commission meeting, Councilor Saladoff
questioned the 2 1/2 story height and stated there was clearly a 3rd story of living space. Mr. Swales
presented diagrams and definitions which disputed the height of'the house stating it exceeds the 35' height
maximum. He also spoke regarding the slope of the property, explaining the applicants have given
various slopes and stated the average slope is 26 degrees, not 26% as shown on their drawings. Mr.
Swales explained that a 26 degree slope converts to an actual slope of 49%. He also stated the staff
permit was made before they had received the required topographical map.
Mr. Swales explained for Council the formula used to determine slope. He also spoke on how the
applicants determined the slope from 1978 aerial topographic maps and measured the height of trees and
tree stumps. Mr. Swales stated that they need to look at the slope of the buildable area, not the slope of
the entire site. Mr. Swales also clarified for Council he believes the 25% slope measurement provided by
the applicants refers to the average slope for the entire site. Mr. Swales explained that the Hillside
Ordinance specifically states that you cannot build on the steep parts of the land in its guidelines (the
steep parts being those in excess of 35%).
Mr. Swales clarified he his here because he is a neighbor to the property and also concerned about the
Hillside Ordinance. He is not testifying on behalf of the Planning Commission.
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Comment was made that Mr. Swales is familiar with projects due to his time spent on the Planning
Commission. Mr. Swales stated the ordinance makes it pretty clear how to measure a slope and gives a
conversion factor which states how to convert from a percentage slope to a degree slope.
When asked if he was able to measure the floor area, Mr. Swales clarified he determined his
measurements from the same small plans that were provided to Council.
Mr. Swales provided a brief recap of the evidence and clarified where an applicant is allowed to build.
He contends the applicants want to build on the steep part (unbuildable) section of their land.
IN OPPOSITION TO APPLICANT:
Regina Ayrs/199 Hillcrest/Spoke in opposition to the building of the large structure in her neighborhood.
Ms. Ayrs stated that her quality of life is import and read into the record an email previously sent to the
council. Email is included as part of the record.
George Kramer/386 North Laurel/Stated the initial hearing was heard without public testimony and
that the applicant had time to submit t~vo plans and manipulate the process. He also commented on the
removal of trees and the previous destruction of the property. Mr. Kramer commented on the attorney
hired by the applicant and quoted sections of the Hillside Ordinance from the Ashland Municipal Code.
Mr. Kramer stated there are multiple interpretations made of the Ashland Municipal Code and that those
interpretations were to the benefit of the applicant.
Jane Street/180 Mead Street/Submitted photo of Glenview Drive, which is the existing traffic lane and
will provide the access to the proposed building. Ms. Street questioned whether the Council was aware
that the city is giving up their right-of-way for this project and stated it will effect street trees and road
conditions. She stated that the fence also encroach~es the city right-of-way. Ms. Street noted that this has
not been discussed with the city engineer. She also voiced concern with the traffic and noise that will be
generated when functions are held at this residence;. She requested that the residence be encouraged to
rent a hotel rather than build one.
Alan Sasha Lithman/460 Sunshine Circle/Stated he was not speaking for the neighborhood but as a
resident of the community. Mr. Lithman stated that simply because a property belongs to someone does
not give them the divine right of kings. Gave example of second hand smoke. He stated our laws are
running behind the curve of issues that are very critical right now, and read into the record an email
previously sent to the council and is included as part of the record.
Malena Marvin/361 Idaho/Commented on how the average American uses 30 times the resources of
someone who lives in the third world. Ms. Marvin stated the applicant's money and power does not
guarantee them the opportunity to act out their fantasies on the Hand that we depend on for survival. Ms.
Marvin urged the council to consider this in global terms.
Louis Legep/243 N Laurel/Commented on his awareness of the project and his involvement in the
process and the decision of the Historic Commission. Mr. Legep stated the applicants are the minority
rather than the individuals that are opposing the project, and commented on how the silent majority relies
on the Council to be heard. Mr. Legep compared the proposed plan to the home of Microsoft owner Bill
Gates and noted how deceptive the size of the building is. He stated he would have liked the money spent
on this project be put into affordable housing.
Jim Criswell/580 Siskiyou Blvd./Read statement from Debbie Miller that was previously submitted into
the record.
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Pam Vavra/2800 Dead Indian Rd/Urged the Council to deny the permit for this construction project.
Ms. Vavra commented on not being able to foresee future plans, which is why they develop plans like the
Hillside Ordinance. She stated that it is clear in the Comprehensive Plan that the community has made a
decision about what is important. Stated one of those values is the small town atmosphere. Ms. Vavra
noted that part of the use of this single family home', is similar to that ora convention center or training
center. She also stated that the intended use clearly over reaches the normal use ora single-family
dwelling. Ms. Vavra noted traffic impacts and asked the Council to consider what a future owner might
use the building for, and asked the Council to look to the broader standards rather than the letter of the
law.
Eric Navickas/711 Faith St/Unable to attend meeting and submitted statement that was read into the
record.
Elizabeth Udall/548 C Street/Unable to attend meeting and submitted a statement into the record.
Bill Street/180 Mead/Entered into the record confirmation of the information Mr. Swales presented
regarding the slope. Mr. Street made a presentation on the material submitted into the record, and stated
Mr. Stone's findings were not discussed by the Hearings Board. Mr. Street noted the removal of trees,
and stated that Mr. Stone added the language "of native trees" which was not in the original language.
Mr. Street clarified the correct language refers to dead and dying vegetation, not native trees. Mr. Street
noted ALUO 18.08.230 which states that a dwelling is defined as one or more rooms designed for
occupancy by one family, and not having more than one kitchen or cooking facility. He explained the
proposed house shows two kitchens and this makes, the proposed home a two family dwelling which is
not allowed in R1 zones. Mr. Street also referred to the application, which states the dwelling is 19 ft.
from the property line when the requirement is 25 ti. Mr. Street stated the application should be denied.
STAFF RESPONSE:
Mr. McLaughlin clarified that Staff requested the applicants to provide slope maps that would establish
the natural grade prior to the land being disturbed. Their indication was that the original slope was
greater than 25% and therefore subject to the Hillside Ordinance. Mr. McLaughlin also clarified why
there are different slope measurements explaining the one was the initial slope of the property and the
other is the slope as it is today.
Mr. McLaughlin stated the plans seem to reflect an accurate representation of what exists on the site
today, and this that it was mislabeled at 26%. McLaughlin clarified for the Council the ordinance was
established to ensure that as development occurred on any parcel greater than 1/2 acre, a portion of that
property would be required to stay in its natural condition. Mr. McLaughlin relayed the formula for
determining what needs to be kept in its natural state. He also stated the purpose of the ordinance was to
allow someone plenty of room to build a house, but limiting their ability to go in and excavate areas for
larger flat spaces, terraces, etc. The reason being that the more natural state the property in is, the more
stable it usually is. Mr. McLaughlin explained that the applicants have stated there is no natural state left,
and the Planning Commission concurred.
Mr. McLaughlin cited the 4th criteria that was menttioned by the'. opponents and explained that the original
adopted ordinance does not have this 4th criteria, but that it was inadvertently included with the staff
report for amending the ordinance. McLaughlin also noted that: the mention of two kitchens would come
into play at the building permit stage and does not have to do with the Physical & Environmental
Constraints Review. None the less, McLaughlin explained there is one kitchen for the use by the
DeBoer's as the dwelling. There is an additional kitchen that is .designed for entertaining, and is not
designed to support a separate dwelling. He stated this is consistent with what many people have in the
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community. Mr. McLaughlin stated if someone wanted to argue this point it would need to be an item of
a separate appeal, and is not part of the criteria the Council is reviewing tonight.
Mr. McLaughlin clarified for Council the Ordinance does not refer a natural or manipulated slope, it
simply states slope. He explained that Staffbeliew,'s that prior to the Hillside ordinance, the slope was
legal for the applicants to go in and excavate the area that they did. By going in and re-grading this made
it essentially an unbuildable part of the lot according to the new standards. Had the applicants known
this, they would have left the area in its natural state to be built upon in the future. Staff feels the Hillside
Ordinance speak towards regulating the natural part of the land and not the cutface that was done legally
prior to the ordinance. Staff agreed that the original slope on the property was greater than 25%, however
they did not determine that because the applicants made the cutslope they could not longer build in that
area now.
Council noted the determination on which slope to use will set a precedent for possible future
applications.
Mr. McLaughlin added that you are allowed to build a home on a single parcel regardless of the slope if it
is an existing parcel, there are just stricter standards to adhere to.
Council discussed the rational for applying the new standards rendering a section unbuildable when it was
legal to do so at the time of excavation.
Mr. McLaughlin clarified for Council that air photos have a percent error due to not being on the ground.
When it is close, Staff encourages the applicants to hire a surveyor for confirmation, explaining a ground
survey is more dependable.
Mr. McLaughlin clarified it is common practice for the applicants to provide the written findings,
explaining that the burden of proof lies with the applicant. On controversial issues, they recommend that
the applicants get professional guidance, since the :findings are a key document during an appeal. Mr.
McLaughlin stated these findings were reviewed by the Hearings Board before they adopted them.
McLaughlin also informed the Council that the applicants were up front with their intentions far in
advance of the adoption of the new ordinance, and the Historic Commission reviewed this project well
before the adoption of the current ordinance.
Council questioned the impact on surrounding areas and the encroachment issue. Mr. McLaughlin stated
that although this home is large, there are no standards for noise, traffic, and things generated by a single
family home. He stated this application would not be treated any differently because of its size. Should
the application be approved, Public Works would look into the right-of-way issues to determine if there is
an encroachment problem. Generally, if there is a substantial amount of improvements the right-of-way,
Public Works will have the owners sign an agreement that recognizes that even though the property
owners did the improvements, it does not mean they own the land. Mr. McLaughlin explained that
should the City need the land in the future for street improvements, the owners cannot protest the
improvements and it falls to them to ensure the fut,are grades are met.
Councilor Laws noted you can find encroachments; on right-of-ways throughout the City.
Mr. McLaughlin clarified for Council that Staff were the ones ~vho noticed that the height exceeded the
35' limit and the applicants then adjusted their plans to comply. He added that applicants are allowed to
manipulate their plans to conform to the standards.
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Councilor Hartzell stated the visual character of the City is mentioned in the Hillside Ordinance. Mr.
McLaughlin clarified the design standards specifically state "except those on land in a Historic District".
McLaughlin further clarified that they do not have design standards for single-family homes in the
Historic District that are mandatory. Mr. McLaughlin clarified that it was LUBA who was unsatisfied the
with the original wording in the Design Standards and the language was changed to read "recommended"
rather than "shall be".
Council commented on the setback issues mentioned by the opponents. Mr. McLaughlin explained the
process for paving and sidewalks and stated that setbacks are measured from the property line. Mr. Knox
stated he is not certain how the 19' measurement came about. He stated the requirement is 20', although
there are exceptions for eaves. Mr. McLaughlin clarified the setback requirements are 10' per story. The
second story could have a 20' setback and this project would just be an extension of that style.
Mr. Knox stated the removal of the trees was based on a wrong decision on his part, and explained that
this was a staff error.
APPLICANT REBUTTAL:
Craig Stone addressed the Council on behalf of the applicant, and spoke on the question raised regarding
natural or artificial topography. Mr. Stone stated that in this case the applicants were criticized by
opponents, where in fact all they did was construe the ordinance where they were required to do so. He
added that there is no land use ordinance that has ever been written that does not require some form of
interpretation. Mr. Stone stated that one of the ways to resolve an ambiguity is to look at the purpose
statement. The Hillside Ordinance's purpose statement clearly states to protect the natural and
topographic character. The ordinance was not for the purpose of preserving man-made features. Mr.
Stone also addressed the opponent's question regarding the receipt date of the topographic map. Mr.
Stone stated the map was submitted along with the application and turned up missing from the municipal
files. Prior to the application going to Planning Commission, the applicants double-checked the file and
noticed that someone had removed this piece of evidence. That is why the receipt date shows it was
received 3 days prior to the hearing. Mr. Stone stated there is not enough time allowed for him to
properly defend their position and asked for a continuance for the purpose of addressing each and every
issue raised and would like to do this in writing. Mr. Stone asked that the record be left open for the
purpose of them submitting additional evidence. In addition, to resolve the issues raised on the
preservation of natural lands, Mr. Stone proposes a slight change in the original lot line adjustment to
reduce the size of this property to less than 1/2 of an acre which would make the provision of natural area
irrelevant. Mr. Stone provided a map of the proposed change in land partition.
Council discussed whether to grant the applicant's request for an extension.
Assistant City Attorney Mike Franell stated the statute provides that the applicant has the right to request
an extension at the initial evidential hearing. Mr. Franell stated that because this is a de novo hearing
there is some question as to whether this statute applies. He stated it is the opinion of the City Legal
Department that it applies to the City as a body, and the right to request applies to the initial evidentiary
hearing held in front of the Hearings Board. However, the Council has the latitude (if the applicants are
willing to extend the l20 day rule), to grant their request. Given the complexity of the issues raised
tonight, this might be appropriate.
Mr. Franell explained that if Council does grant the request, they would recommend extending to date
certain and the proposed date would be May 19th, 12004. That would allow the record to be left open to
receive evidence for 7 days, there would be 7 days for review and submittal of written comments, 7 days
for the applicants to rebut any of those written comments, and then it would allow the City to hold the
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decision hearing at their first regular council meeting in May. The Findings of Fact would then be
adopted at the second regular council meeting in May. Notice would then me sent out on the 19th.
Council discussed their options.
Councilor Laws stated that he does not feel they should leave the record open and would like to complete
the Public Hearing this evening. Councilors Jackson, Amarotico and Hearn agreed. Councilor Morrison
agreed on the basis that overwhelming information may only confuse the situation.
Mr. Franell stated they could continue to leave the Public Hearing open if there are specific questions that
they would like addressed, however by ordinance, the Public Testimony needs to be concluded by 9:30
p.m.
Mr. Stone stated that if it is the Council's inclination to not allow the continuance of the Public Hearing,
he questioned if they would continue this proceeding to a different night and the applicants would grant a
waiver to give them an opportunity to reflect on the', testimony and evidence presented.
Mr. Franell clarified if Council granted the request; they would continue the hearing from tonight to
another night in exchange for a waiver of the 120-day rule. At the hearing on the next night, any specific
questions that Council has would be asked and they would continue that deliberation until they were
satisfied that they had enough information to make a decision.
Kerry Kencairn, came forward and explained the reasons for removing and preserving trees on the
DeBoer property. If was clarified the total number of trees they started with was 16, and there are now 8
remaining. Kencairn clarified there is a tree plan.
Mr. Stone explained that the applicants did approach the city prior to the removal of the initial trees and
stated it was the City who made the mistake and informed the applicants the trees could be removed. Mr.
Stone stated the applicants relied in good faith on the information provided to them by Staff.
Council received clarification regarding how the slope calculation was determined. The applicants
created a contour map and then using the contours determined the slope percentage calculation. It was
stated they had a significant number of trees which they felt gave a good representation of the ground.
Councilor Morrison/Hearn m/s to close public hearing. Voice Vote: all AYES. Motion passed.
PUBLIC HEARING CLOSED: 9:26 p.m.
COUNCIL DELIBERATION:
Council discussed the permit criteria relevant to the Physical and Environmental Constraints permit.
Councilor Morrison stated they have heard a number of discrepancies this evening, but that most are in
areas that are not relevant, such as the kitchen issue. Morrison stated he has not heard any compelling
information that there will be overwhelming impacts, and stated everything he has heard stated that every
attempt has been made to minimize the impacts. Morrison expressed his sympathy for the Historic
Commission and the opponents to this project, but stated the decision needs to be based on the criteria and
he has not found anything significant that would allow him to vote against this at this time.
Councilor Laws stated that he is glad that this is going to be the last house of this size in the Historic
District. Laws agrees with Morrison in that they did not find any technicalities that were significant
enough to reverse the Planning Departments decision. ,~
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Councilor Hearn stated they needed to base their decision on the criteria. He noted the ordinance is
somewhat loose in it's language, but that the Council is obligated to vote for approval if the applicants
have met the conditions.
Councilor Amarotico/Jackson m/s to extend meeting to 10:30 p.m. Voice Vote: all AYES. Motion
passed.
Councilor Hartzell stated the intent of the Hillside Ordinance was to protect the watershed above us, and
noted it also mentions the respect of visual character. Hartzell stated the Ordinance has a requirement that
a tree plan be designed before any kind of development in this area, and the burden is on the applicant to
know the law.
Councilor Jackson stated the criteria for the Physical and Environmental Constraints Permit is fairly clear.
She stated staff has worked on this project and the applicant has produced volumes of documentation on
how they believe they have met the criteria.
Councilor Jackson/Hearn m/s to approve the application as presented. DISCUSSION: Councilor
Morrison noted that this is the time to consider what they can dc. in regards to imposing conditions and
asked if they should consider imposing some conditions of restoration in addition to the approval.
Council received clarification that any conditions imposed needed to be added to the motion. Mr. Franell
recommended that Council accept the stipulation on the reduction of lot size proposed by the applicants.
Mr. Franell clarified this would not remove the requirements for complying with the Physical and
Environmental Constraints Permit, but would remove the requirement that a percentage be left in its
natural state.
Councilor Jackson/Laws m/s to approve the application and the conditions of approval listed on
page A67-A68 and those listed on pages 2-3, including a 10th condition that states the applicant's lot
line adjustment keeps the adjusted lot size to less than ½ acre.
Voice Vote to amend motion: all AYES. Amendment Passes.
Voice Vote to approve motion: Laws, Amarotico, Jackson, Morrison, and Hearn, YES. Hartzell,
NO. Motion Passed 5-1.
Barbara Christensen, City Recorder
Alan DeBoer, Mayor