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Home My WebLink About2005-09-07 Historic MIN ASHLAND HISTORIC COMMISSION Minutes September 7, 2005 Community Development/Engineering Services Building – 51 Winburn Way – Siskiyou Room Historic Commissioners Present: Dale Shostrom, Keith Swink, Rob Saladoff, Terry Skibby, Jay Leighton, Allen Crutcher, and Henry Baker Absent Members: Sam Whitford Council Liaison: Jack Hardesty - Absent High School Liaison: None Appointed SOU Liaison: None Appointed Staff Present: Derek Severson, Assistant Planner, Billie Boswell, Administration CALL TO ORDER – REGULAR MEETING At 7:04, Chairman Dale Shostrom called the regular meeting to order. Chairman Shostrom and the Historic Commissioners welcomed new Commissioner Allen Crutcher. APPROVAL OF MINUTES Chairman Shostrom asked that the minutes be changed on 820 C Street to reflect that the motion was to approve the project with “consideration of the following suggestions…”. Ms. Leighton pointed out a typo and the word “bringing” was removed from paragraph 4 of the same planning action. Mr. Saladoff moved to approve the August 3, 2005 minutes as amended with a second by Mr. Baker. They were approved unanimously with Mr. Giordano abstaining. PUBLIC HEARINGS – None DISCUSSION ITEMS: Site: 249 Hillcrest Drive Map & Taxlot: 391E90CA #13600 Owners: Russell & JoAnn Manzone Jesse Blue, representing the owners, described the details of the new structure as requested by the Historic Commission in their conditions of approval from the July 6, 2005 meeting. Chairman Shostrom pointed out the three bump-outs were not shown on the side elevations. He also was concerned about the varying sizes and roof treatments on the three bump-outs. It was also suggested that a shed dormer be used over the bump-outs. Mr. Giordano felt the position of the diamond window in the gable was out of scale. Chairman Shostrom made a motion to revise the conditions of the original approval as follows: 1. 1”x6” trim boards be used on corners and windows 2. Lap siding have a 5”-6” reveal, smooth side out if Hardiplank is used. 3. The three bump-outs have shed dormers and be consistent in depth with an 18”- 24” overhang. 4. The window style be consistent. Double-hung windows are recommended. 5. Suggested making the diamond gable window smaller but left at the same wall height. Ms. Leighton seconded the motion and it was approved unanimously. Ashland Historic Commission Minutes 1 10/11/2005 Site: 160 Helman Applicant: Jim Batzer Commissioner Crutcher disclosed that he had done some work for Mr. Batzer a couple of years ago. Mark Knox, representing the applicants, described the mixed-use, multi-storied building that is proposed to replace the existing 1948 single-story warehouse in the E-1 zone. The approximately 200-foot building would sit facing Helman Street between Van Ness Street and an alley and abutting the rear of the SOS Plumbing Service yard. The frontage design was broken up into three distinct sections to appear as three different buildings to minimize the scale and mass along Helman Street. Commercial space if proposed for the bottom floor with a total of seven condominium units on the upper floors. Access to both the commercial and the residential units would be in the front along Helman Street. There are currently single-story residential homes fronting Helman on the opposite side of the street. Most of the Commissioners were concerned about the mass and scale. Mr. Giordano felt it was incompatible with the residences across the street; he noted that while the neighborhood was zoned multi-family residential it had a decidedly single-family feeling. He indicated that the monotony of the roof forms made the central area read as one mass. Ms. Leighton and Mr. Crutcher made suggestions to stagger the overall heights and/or stepping the roof height on the middle section to break up the mass. Chairman Shostrom felt three stories was too tall and recommended two stories as sufficient. Mr. Crutcher pointed out the eight-foot pedestrian corridor to the rear of the building was much too narrow and tall. Chairman Shostrom suggested extending the second story over the parking in the back to provide for more square footage in a shorter, two-story structure that could also eliminate the plain look of the back. Chairman Shostrom and Mr. Saladoff both suggested that a better sense of entry needed to be provided, and several members indicated that more public/plaza space was needed, and that they would prefer to see a separation between buildings to break up the monotony of the central form. Mr. Crutcher noted that he was less concerned with plaza area than with developing a working streetscape. Site: 11 First Street Applicant: Ron Yamaoka Commissioner Giordano disclosed that he is the architect on the project and recused himself from the meeting. Bill Emerson, the designer and representing the owner, described a mixed-use, three-story building consisting of restaurant facilities on the ground floor, commercial offices on the second floor, and two residential units on the third floor. He showed color drawings of the building and a composite streetscape showing how the building would blend with the existing buildings in the area. Overall, the Commissioners were impressed with the scale and design of the building, feeling it would compliment the downtown streetscape. Mr. Saladoff commented that the side elevation off the alley (Will Dodge Way) had as strong a design detail as the front façade even though it could be hidden if another taller building were built on the other side of the alley. Chairman Shostrom noted that the East Main Street side of the building was very plain and suggested wrapping the façade detail around the corner front quadrant and adding a couple of additional columns. Mr. Crutcher felt the main cornice design should also be wrapped to that side since the upper portion of the building would be visible from East Main. The Commissioners concurred that overall it was a great design. State Historic Preservation Office Contractor Directory Ms. Leighton passed on information to the Historic Commissioners that SHPO was interested in adding to their list of contractors interested in Historic Restoration work. The Commissioners were unsure of the intent or scope of what SHPO is looking for. Do they also want Designers and Architects? What qualifications are needed? Ms. Leighton agreed to contact SHPO to get more information and report back to the Historic Commission. OLD BUSINESS Ashland Historic Commission Minutes 2 10/11/2005 – A. Review Board Following is the month’s schedule for the Review Board, which meets every Thursday from 3:00 to at least 3:30 p.m. in the Planning Department: th September 8 Skibby, Swink, Saladoff th September 15 Skibby, Whitford, Shostrom nd September 22 Skibby, Crutcher, Saladoff th September 29 Skibby, Baker, Leighton th October 6 Skibby, Giordano, Whitford B. Project Assignments for Planning Actions PA #2000-120 485 “A” Street (Steve Hoxmeier) Shostrom PA #2002-100 142 East Main Street (Earthly Goods) Leighton PA #2004-026 81 Central Avenue (Wes & Lucinda Vail) Giordano PA #2004-018 322 Pioneer Street (Al & Sandra Carlson) Swink PA #2004-100 80 Wimer (Tom & Kathy Petersen) Whitford PA #2004-102 832 “A” Street (Ilene Rubenstein) Saladoff PA #2004-110 150 Church St (Robert M. Saladoff) Whitford PA #2004-115 724 Iowa St (Dave and Jamie Kaufman) Swink PA #2004-138 234 Vista St (Sid & Karen DeBoer) Saladoff PA #2004-150 87 Fourth St (Unitarian Universal Fellowship Church) Shostrom PA #2004-154 180 Lithia Way (Archerd & Dresner) Leighton PA-#2004-160 685 A Street (William Reeves) Swink PL#2005-00039 150 N. Pioneer (Stan Potocki & Bruce McLean) Leighton PL#2005-00869 249 Hillcrest Drive (Russell & JoAnn Manzone) Swink PL#2005-01043 70 Water Street (Ashland Creek Holdings, LLC) Leighton PL#2005-01226 820 “C” Street (Randy & Helen Ellison) Shostrom C. Co-Sponsorship with Conservation Commission for Fall Workshop – No report D. Lithia Springs National Register Nomination – Ms. Harris had not received any information yet. E. Multiple Listing Survey for National Register of Historic Places – No report F. Single Family Residential Design Standards – No report G. Brown Bag Meeting – No report NEW BUSINESS – None ANNOUNCEMENTS The next Historic Commission meeting will be on October 5, 2005 at 7:00 pm in the Siskiyou Room. ADJOURNMENT With a motion by Skibby and second by Leighton, it was the unanimous decision of the Commission to adjourn the meeting at 10:10 p.m. Ashland Historic Commission Minutes 3 10/11/2005