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CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
June 8,2006
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MINUTES FOR THE SPECIAL MEETING
ASHLAND CITY COUNCIL
June 8, 2006
Civic Center Council Chambers, 1175 E. Main Street
Mayor Morrison called the meeting to order at 5: 15 p.m.
Attendance: Councilor Jackson, Silbiger, Chapman and Hartzell. Councilor Amarotico was absent.
1. Discussion of RVTD contract and Route 5 costs.
City Administrator Martha Bennett gave brief overview ofthe system in place and noted the question of
why we have transit in our community and what are we trying to achieve with this service. She noted the
current system that helps to relieve our dependency on auto and the goals of having a service that is
convenient, promotes ridership and provides transit for those in need. She stated that staff tried to analyze
the actions and options based on these goals.
Ms. Bennett stated that the city does a good job of achieving these goals, but financially it is not possible to
meet all of these goals. Staff is requesting direction from council on which ofthese goals is most the
important.
Management Analyst Ann Seltzer presented to the council three options based on the goals and the
estimated costs associated.
Current Program
· Keep Route 5 and continue to provide free fare to Ashland
. 15 minute service
. $535,000
Option 1
· Keep Route 5 and subsidize reduced fare at 50% ($1 for fixed route and $2 for valley lift), bill city
for actual ridership
. 15 minute service
· Assuming 10% drop in riders $330,912; 20% drop in rider $298,556; 30% drop in riders $266,200
Option 2
. Eliminate Route 5 and subsidize free fare
. 30 minute service
Option 3
· Eliminate Route 5 subsidize ($190,000 to street fund) free fare passes with $100,000
. 30 minute service
Ms. Seltzer noted related issues that cannot be resolved over a short period of time, but need to be explored
over time. Some of these issues included no participation by Southern Oregon University, the issue of
Mountain Meadows being outside the % service, exploring alternative transportation models for smaller
communities through MPO (Metropolitan Planning Organization), the need for transit routes that extend
into neighborhoods, hospital, etc., the need to continue easing congestion and parking and the Federal
regulation that requires equal service district wide.
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Councilor Jackson agreed with the idea of contracting with a different transit service entity to provide
transit service within the city. Councilor Hartzell requested that the council focus on the immediate
concerns and suggested a modification of Option 2 which would charge a minimum of $1 for either the bus
or Valley Lift. She is interested in option b under option 2 and to look for some reasonable revenue
sources.
Councilor Silbiger noted that convenience of service is good but not as important as having the service, to
eliminate route 5 with $1 fare and help subsidize the Valley Lift. He also suggested providing regular use
passes for residents.
Mayor agreed that convenience does not rank as high as meeting the needs for those that have no
transportation. He recommended Option # 1 which eliminates route 5 and subsidizing the fare.
Ms. Seltzer clarified for the council that the options being considered are workable options with Rogue
Valley Transportation District (RVTD). She also noted that Option #1 includes RVTD billing the city for
actual ridership which would allow flexibility on the commitment of the city for actual dollars in an annual
contract. The billing on this could be done either monthly or quarterly.
Councilor Silbiger commented on how the bus does not cost any more to run based on the number of riders
and that charging a fare would discourage more ridership. He suggested that the city determine a flat
dollar amount for the year which does not rely on the percentage of ridership.
Ms. Bennett explained that RVTD was counting the cost of operating the bus and the cost of loss fare
revenue. She asked them not to do this, as the city should not be charged on both ends. She noted that
Valley Lift is a variable cost but that route 5 is a fixed cost.
Councilor Hartzell suggested that the council make one decision one at a time, either to retain or get rid of
route 5 and allowing a task force to look at or modify it a later date. She suggests eliminating route 5 and
that it become a component of where they start. It was determined that there were additional questions by
council before a decision on this could be made at this time in the meeting.
Don Laws/968 HiIlview Drive/Noted that route 5 and lOgo opposite directions and that eliminating route
5 would affect the amount of time spent on the bus. He stated that this is a matter of convenience but that
it is a considerable difference in how much time would be spent on the bus.
Mat Marr/31 Union Street/Stated that it is not a matter of convenience but a matter of use and noted that
he does not own a car and that route 5 is very convenient. He stated that that paying $1 for the 15 minutes
service is worth it and that it is a matter of use and use will drop. Mr. Marr explained that it takes a long to
time to develop patterns and if there is a change it would be difficult later to rebuild these patterns. He
commented on how important these routes are to the school systems to be able to utilize a bus service that
is convenient. He suggested that the council consider using route 5 during the peak utilization time. He
urged the council to do as much as they can to make means, other than cars, feasible to get around. Even if
mass transit is not supporting itself right now, that we create an info-structure in the long term that
continues to move in this direction.
Marge Sutton/989 Golden Aspen PlaceN oiced her concern with the issues regarding service to the
Mountain Meadows area and supported re-routing to include Hersey Street and N. Mountain. She felt that
this would solve the problem regarding lift service and make it easier for those that are able bodied to catch
the bus.
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Madeline Hill/828 Boulder Creek Lane/Spoke regarding the importance of Valley Lift program and that
the operative word is "lift." She is concerned with who would be able to transport wheelchair bound
individuals if Valley Lift were to go away.
It was clarified for Ms. Hill that the federal regulation of within % mile is a "minimum" and that it is
RVTD's choice to make this service available.
Councilor Jackson noted that the tax rate received by RVTD is $287,000 for route 10 and questioned if
RVTD does pass sales anywhere else. It was clarified that RVTD does sell passes but that their passes are
not in reduced form. She commented on her support for peak hours, but that this would need to be
considered in the long term decision. Ms. Jackson voiced her support of Option #1 which would keep
route 5 for the reasons that Mr. Marr and Mr. Laws pointed out and for the stability of pattern. She would
like to work out the reduced fare subsidy with Option # 1.
It was clarified that the tax rate pays for base service, which is route 10, but not the free fare portion of
Ashland.
Councilor Hartzell requested that if any of route 5 is kept, to keep it at peak times and provide the amount
of how much this would cost. Councilor Jackson noted the difficulty of providing this infol111ation within
30 days.
Staff noted that they had not been able to find any information on Portland's "fare free zone" and "para
transit." Councilor Chapman felt that this information is important to him. He suggested free passes for
Ashland and offered ways that this could be administrated.
Ms. Bennett stated that the choice for the council is to either to offer free fare or keep route 5, there is no
money in the budget to do both. That even if council were to consider a "peak time" bus route, that the
cost associated with this would be higher than they would expect.
Councilor Silbiger noted that option # 1 provides for the most for the money with the least amount of
disruption. Ms. Seltzer noted that the best case scenario would be a 10% drop in riders if $1 is charged the
amount that the city may have to subsidize is around $42,000 over a year. If the city is billed for actual
ridership, it will assess what our ridership is and allow the city time to explore other revenue streams.
Councilor Chapman stated that the key is determining which option will lose most riders and voiced his
concern that there is no data to help make this decision.
Mayor commented that if route 5 is eliminated, it is important to have predictability in order for riders to
count on a system and use it. He voiced his concern with a fare that goes from zero to $4 for a one-way
ride. Councilor Hartzell also voiced her concern over charging a fare and noted the difficulty it will be on
low and medium income families to pay bus fare for their school age students. She stated that it would be
easier to adjust time than it is to find the money. Ms. Seltzer did note that RVTD does offer discounted
fares for youth and regular single riders.
Councilor Jackson/Silbiger m/s to choose Option 1 with further refinements to be mad on how the
subsidy works. DISCUSSION: Councilor Hartzell stated that the city cannot afford to do this for citizens.
Roll Call vote; Jackson, Silbiger, YES; Chapman, Hartzell, NO; Mayor, NO. Motion denied 3-2.
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Councilor ChapmanlHartzell m/s to eliminate route 5. Roll Call Vote: Jackson, Silbiger, NO;
Chapman, Hartzell, YES; Mayor, YES. Motion passed 3-2.
Councilor Hartzell made proposal that staff come back with an option c under option #2 that we look at a
subsidy of .50 for fixed rate and $1 for Valley Lift. Ms. Bennett offered to come back with a fare structure
that balances to the $290,000 which would indicate what the fare would need to be.
Councilor Hartzell/Chapman m/s ask staff to return with a proposed structure that subsidizes the
fixed route and valley lift with the funds that we have. Roll Call vote: Jackson, Silbiger, Chapman,
Hartzell, YES. Motion passed.
Councilor added that she understands the logic for retaining route 5 and sees this as an interim option. She
would like the council to look at bringing route 5 back as quickly as possible.
Direction to staff is to set up a meeting with RVTD to move forward on related issues that would include
exploring peak hours.
2. Discussion of Amendments to the 2004 Oregon Fire Code
Chief Keith Woodley briefly explained that staff had been directed to look at those amendments that the
local community chose not to adopt and to look at the general fire department requirements on hillside
development lands as well as the rest of the city, with the intent of determining any gaps or community fire
protection being compromised.
Division Chief Marguerite Hickman presented analysis and pictures of various areas of the city that will
help illustrate the findings. These problems illustrated street width in hillside areas, foot access to homes,
fire flow issues, signage on streets, narrow streets, dead end streets and drives, fire apparatus turnarounds,
measurement around structure as it is required to be within 150 feet from the fire apparatus, driveways
serving up to three homes, addressing of units, identification and familiarity with fire protection systems
and appliances, and fire hazardous vegetation.
Ms. Hickman noted the proposed vegetation management for a code adoption. She stated that these are the
type of landscapes that they are looking at to modify in the future because it is poses a high fire risk type
with the junipers.
Staff suggested code amendments, code enforcement in several areas including parking, inspection during
and or after the completion of projects, and a review of "no parking" signs and if there are more areas
where they should be placed.
Councilor Hartzell voiced her support of the suggestions made by staff and proposed going further. She
shared past conversation that she had with Ms. Hickman, where Ms. Hickman indicated that seven feet
street width was not adequate for trucks and mirrors and SUV's. That three of the four homes destroyed
by fire in the past were started by fires outside the home and that sprinklers would not have been helpful
and yet our water flow is less than the state standard. Ms. Hartzell had asked the Fire Chief what his top 10
things would be to increase fire safety in town and he had indicated two. One was to deal with the gallon
per minute requirement and two was the 150 foot turnaround, of which we are less than the state
requirement because we allow turnarounds to happen every 250 feet.
Chief Woodley explained that it is a flow problem. The state requirement is 1,000 and the city's
requirement is 750.
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Councilor Hartzell also noted that enforcement is also an issue.
Chief Woodley stated that one of the mitigations that they are looking at is to look at the issue of fires
starting outside the building and bum into them, is the vegetation. The community has recognized the
types of vegetation that are highly flammable, but have not embraced the problem of those plantings that
have been created into new developments. The vegetation ordinance that is being proposed is designed to
get at this problem and to restrict the use of plant material that is highly flammable.
He explained that the problem with the gallons per minute is problematic. The community will have to
take a look at the impact of changing from 1,000 to 750 and how it would have on the ability to issue
building permits. There are many areas in the city, not only in hillside areas that have four inch water
mains that were installed in the 1930's to 50's and the hydrants won't deliver 1,000 gallons per minute.
They are more likely to deliver 750 - 800 gallons per minute. Applying these standards to these areas
could restrict building in areas where we have not considered to be accumulative impact on hillside fire
safety issues that we are concerned with.
Chief Woodley was asked if750 gallons per minute would be adequate to fight a fire. He answered that
the engines capacity is to pump 1,500 but that there are factors that need to be considered. If there is
sprinkler system in the home, it would reduce the amount of water needing to be pumped by 50-75%. If
there is no sprinkler system, but the building is properly compartmentalized and it is not a 6,500-7,000 sq.
foot home, 750 to 1,000 gallons per minute could probably handle it. Ms. Hickman explained that starting
at 3,600 sq. feet, 1,500 gallons per minute is required and it continues to go up incrementally based on the
size of the structure. This is what will regulate home large a home can be built and is what is currently in
the city code.
Chief Woodley stated that the fire department has over time absorbed some difficulties in regards to their
ability to provide fire protection in order to allow developments to go into existing neighborhoods. He
commented that they are following community direction.
Councilor Hartzell stated that one of the other costs of planning the way it was decided to plan was
spending enough on enforcement.
Chief Woodley explained that they have tried to educate the council and the planning commission about
the trade-offs required in the some of the past choices made. He explained issues regarding alley access
and the problems associated with these.
Ms. Hickman further clarified that after this year's code adoption process they had been in touch with the
State Fire Marshall's office and they have identified that both of the code issues that have been adopted
that were less restrictive are appropriate for a local jurisdiction to make this decision. They also cited that
the turnaround was appropriate due to the laws related to land use planning and that the reduction in fire
flow was appropriate because there is an Oregon State Statute or is within the fire code that gives local
jurisdictions the ability to do this. Council asked that staff provide a written rationale for doing this.
Ms. Bennett noted that we should match up wherever they have fire code problems with whatever water
replacement programs Public Works has in place. Chief Woodley stated that they have this data they could
provide to the council on what neighborhoods would be affected.
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Staffwas directed to bring back proposals to a regular council meeting where action could take place on
these amendments. Council requested information on development opportunities and the impact of not
changing back to a more stringent code on existing houses.
3. Discussion of AFN Operating Goals
IT Director Joe Franell presented goals for AFN as the following priorities: 1) Regain and then maintain
infrastructure health and reliability, 2) Maintain existing internet customer base (transitional goal), 3) grow
the customer base and 4) Operate at a profit.
He explained that staff intends to meet these goals by continuing to offer excellent customer service and
product reliability, enhancing current product offerings and launching new products that fit within the
structure provided by the goals. Mr. Franell continued by stating that it was clear that AFN must be run
like a business and be profit based in order to exist and grow, it does not exist for its own sake. AFN is a
community owned enterprise and exists to benefit the community. The goal is to be a positive community
partner defined by our contribution to business and economic development, education and the arts.
Mr. Franell stated that AFN has always had the potential for being a tool in attracting high tech, small
businesses to the Ashland area. The long-term economic health of Ashland relies on our ability to provide
easy access to technology that is appropriate to these businesses. This includes the ability to anticipate and
respond to market requirements and technological developments. He explained that the key will be
introduction of new products, services and features that meet the needs of our business customers and that
there is a natural synergy between technology, education and the arts. Staff believes strongly that AFN
must actively pursue opportunities to encourage and enable education in the arts in Ashland.
Mr. Franell stated that a specified goal is that choices of product line will always include this philosophy.
Councilor Silbiger asked when they would see a Business Plan. Mr. Franell explained that it is his intent
to "under-commit" and "over-perform." That if un-realistic goals are set, just for the sake of setting hard
numbers, we would be setting ourselves up for some kind of failure. Because, perception becomes reality
in people minds and if we set perceptions that are un-realistic and goals that may be unattainable or
realistically high enough, it would not be a service to the community. He stated that as we work through
the six month transition it will start to come together and that by next years budget cycle there will be a
good plan on where we want to go and what the numbers are.
When asked about a timeline or timeframe on the business plan, Mr. Franell answered that he expects to
have the new products in place soon and that there may be opportunities that may present themselves
sooner. He explained that the six month transition period is part of presenting what the options are to
people. He offered to go over numbers individually with councilors in order to not create the semblance of
providing hard numbers.
Mr. Franell explained that the budget allows for the transition period where it unveils its new place and
that next year is the year where the biggest amount of money will be spent on fixing the network. After
this is when we should be seeing the reward of our effort and when choices will need to be made on our
reward. He stated that operating at a profit is when the fourth goal is realized, to have the flexibility to
make decisions about applying toward the debt service or allowing the council to use this profit for
something more critical and beneficial to the community.
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Councilor Chapman reminded staff that this is a municipal company and we need to offer a service that is
offered to everyone in the community at an affordable rate as part of a city service and he did not see this
as a goal for the department. He believes that this should be a goal ofthe department.
Mr. Franell explained that cable television networks were designed to be closed networks and is not
supposed to leap radio frequency signals. That there had been instances in the past where leaping cable
plants have been mistaken for aerial beacons and could be a problem. He stated that they city had not been
good at tracking, repairing and reporting the leakage.
Councilor Hartzell requested discussion with staff on how selection was made under positive community
partnership. She also inquired as to what the next step would be. Mr. Franell stated that once the goals are
in place and we are comfortable with the goals, which means the council is comfortable with the direction
AFN is taking, that the next step would be to start putting together a Business Plan. The Business Plan
would be more specific short-term and less specific long-term, as is our own city budget.
Councilor Chapman requested goals ofthe IT Department as well. Mr. Franell responded that they are
currently working on these goals and will present them to the council when complete.
Meeting was adjourned at 7:14 p.m.
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Barbara Christensen, City Recorder
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