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JOINT STUDY SESSION
PLANNING COMMISSION & CITY COUNCIL
MINUTES
AUGUST 27, 2008
ATTENDANCE
The meeting came to order at 7:10 p.m. in the Bellview Grange, 1050 Tolman Creek Road.
Planning Commissioners Present:City Council Present:
John Stromberg, ChairCate Hartzell
Michael DawkinsEric Navickas
Debbie MillerAlice Hardesty
Michael ChurchKate Jackson
Pam Marsh
David Chapman
Melanie Mindlin
Dave Dotterrer
Staff Present:Absent Members:
Bill Molnar, Community Development Mike Morris, Planning Commissioner
Director
Tom Dimitre, Planning
Commissioner
Martha Bennett, City Administrator
Maria HarrisJohn Morrison, Mayor
, Planning Manager
April Lucas, Administrative AssistantRuss Silbiger, Councilor
CROMAN MILL SITE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN
Community Development Director Bill Molnar provided a recap of the meetings held to date on this issue. He noted Option D
had received the most
votes; however Option C also received support. He explained following the last meeting, the
Consultants continued to receive feedback and have incorporated the best of the two proposals. Mr. Molnar commented on
the next steps in this process, which include creating
a final plan that meets the requirements of the grant and bringing it
before
the City Council for adoption. He noted staff had received a preliminary application request from the property owner for
a light industrial use and is hopeful the property owner will be patient and continue to work with
the City as they move through
these final steps.
CONSULTANT PRESENTATION
Consultants George Crandall, Don Arambula and Jason Graf with Crandall Arambula PC introduced themselves to the group.
Mr. Crandall reviewed the study area, project scope, and timeline for this project. He noted that housing was not selected for
this site
and spoke on the issue of sustainability, which included an outline of the following elements: 1) strict conservation
standards, 2) high density housing, 3) improved transit service, 4) protected bike paths, 5) employment next to high density
housing, 6)
neighborhood grocery stores, 7) compact development, 8) energy efficient industries, and 9) reuse waste heat.
Mr. Crandall elaborated on the benefits of protected bike lanes and presented several photos to the group. He commented on
the elements of a great
bicycle system and stated Ashland is nicely positioned for this type of system.
Mr. Arambula provided a presentation on the following elements of the Croman Mill Redevelopment Plan:
Permitted Uses
Location for Primary Road Alignment
Local Street Grid
Location of Light Industrial and Office Uses
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Open Space Possibilities
Parking
Pedestrian and Bike Circulation
Transit
Development Requirements
Permitted Uses
Mr. Arambula reviewed the zones and proposed uses for this site, including potential code language modifications.
M1 Industrial – Remove the following uses:
1) Railroad yards and freight stations, trucking and motor freight stations and facilities.
2) Junkyard and auto wrecking yards.
3) Concrete or asphalt batch or mixing plants.
E1 Employment – Remove the following uses:
1)
Building material sales yards.
2) Wholesale storage and distribution establishments.
3) Recycling depots.
4) Residential uses.
5) Cold storage plants.
6) Automobile and truck repair facilities.
7) Mi
ni-warehouses and similar storage areas.
8) Contractor equipment storage yards.
9) Automobile fuel sales.
10) New and used car sales, boat, trailer and recreational vehicles sales and storage areas.
11) Any use which involves
outside storage of merchandise, raw materials, or other material associated with
the primary use on the site.
12)
Automotive body repair and painting.
Additionally, Mr. Arambula
recommended the code identify maximum allowable sizes for:
1) Stores, shops and offices supplying commodities or performing services.
2)
Bakeries.
C1 Retail Commercial – Remove the following uses:
1)
Commercial laundry, cleaning and dyeing establishments.
2) Bowling alleys, auditoriums, skating r
inks, and miniature golf courses.
3) Automobile fuel stations and automobile and truck repair facilities.
4) Drive-up uses.
5) Kennel and veterinary clinics
6) New and used car sales, boat, trailer, and recreational vehicles sales and storage areas.
7) Outdoor storage of commodities.
8) Building material sales yards.
9) Churches or similar religious institutions.
10) Wireless communication facilities not permitted outright and authorized.
Mr. Arambula recommended the code identify maximum allowable sizes for:
1) Department stores, antique shops, artists supply stores, and regional shopping centers.
Location for Primary Road Alignment
Illustrations were provided of the proposed primary road alignment and 3-lane street design, which would accommodate
sidewalks, travel lanes, parallel parking on both sides, a
nd a protected bike path on one side. Mr. Arambula noted there are
some existing businesses that would need to be relocated in order to accomplish this and reviewe
d the suggested street
phasing plan.
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Local Street Grid
Mr. Arambula provided an explanation of the proposed street grid and noted the grid itself would be built by the developer. He
clarified these streets would not include the protected bike paths and the streets should be constructed in a
way that makes
the bicyclist feel comfortable traveling with the auto traffic (slow traveling speeds, etc.)
Location of Light Industrial and Office Uses
An illustration of the proposed employment, commercial and industrial areas was presented to the group. Mr. Arambula
clarified this layout was developed in response to the issues raised at the previous meeting.
Open Space Possibilities
Mr. Arambula commented on parks and squares and the difference between the two. He displayed examples of each type
and
recommended a central square or park be located next to the proposed Plexis site.
Parking
Mr. Arambula presented the proposed locations for the parking structure and potential park and ride. He reviewed the costs
associated with parking structures and no
ted below grade structures can cost almost double that of above grade structures.
Pedestrian and Bike Circulation
Mr. Arambula noted the locations of the proposed protected bike paths and the existing and planned bike lanes. He also
commented on how the
bicycle and pedestrian traffic would circulate the site.
Transit
Mr. Arambula commented on possible transit options for this site, which include a fixed rail system. He noted the difference
between street cars and light rails and recommended the City beg
in planning for this type of system, even if it cannot be built
right away.
Development Requirements
Mr. Arambula stated the last element is the development requirements, and stated the following three elements were
essential: 1) build to lines, 2) requi
red active edges, and 3) required on street parking. He suggested a maximum building
height of 11 floors in the middle of the site, and 5 floors at the north end. He clarified the intent is to go bigger in this area in
order to obtain more density and note
d they would not be considering these heights if they didn’t have the commuter rail
system.
COMMENTS
Mr. Crandall requested the Planning Commission, City Council and public members in attendance share their concerns and
comments. The following are some o
f the statements that were made:
Are you aware of the Airport Overlay? This may restrict the building heights in this area.
The Plexis site has a substantial amount of field area that is unbuildable, have they considered this?
How many people are needed to support a commuter rail system?
Some residents move to Ashland for the views of the mountains, how will tall buildings impact this?
Too much emphasis has been placed on transportation.
Regarding scale, bulk and density, they need to make sure this area retains Ashland’s small town character and
look
s like it belongs.
They need something that will look pleasant from the interstate.
What other incentives can they provide to developers for creating the street grid aside from higher building heights?
We do not want to create “signature towers.”
Why isn’t the industrial area closer to the railroad?
FINAL OVERVIEW
City Administrator Martha Bennett recommended the Consultants revisit each of the plan’s elements and solicit final feedback
from the Planning Com
mission and Council.
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Permitted Uses
Mr. Crandall reviewed the proposed amendments to the current zoning code for this site and gave examples
of what
this would allow and disallow.
M1 Industrial. Suggestion was made to include a docking station or staging area as an incentive.
E1 Employment. Suggestion was made to remove mortuaries and crematoriums from permitted uses in this
area.
Comment was made questioning the removal of large bakeries. Mr. Crandall clarified this would be allowed
in
one of the other zones and stated bakeries typically do not have high density. Comment was made questioning
the retention
of hotels and motels. Mr. Crandall stated extended stay hotels are often attractive amenities for contract
employees
and suggested they could consider restricting certain types of lodging accommodations.
C1 Retail/Commercial. Mr. Crandall commented on their reasoning for removing some of the uses and described
this
zone as neighborhood commercial. He noted the recommendation to set a maximum permitted size for department
stores and supply stores and suggested they set a minimum residential density in the code, rather than a maximum.
Comment was made regarding the removal of churches. Mr. Arambula clarified the intent is to have high uses in this
area.
It was noted that the Consultant’s would provide a hard copy of the proposed land use code changes to the group.
They were asked to mark up their edits and suggestions and submit them to staff.
Location of Primary Road Alignment
Local Street Grid
Comment was made questioning the inclusion of a local street grid since it is unable to extend to the surrounding
area.
Comment was made that the grid may limit the flexibility of a developer and perhaps they should include the
option for an alternative. Comment was made that they may be working backwards b
y outlining the transportation
plan first and then forcing buildings to fit within that concept.
Location of Light Industrial
Open Space Possibilities
Comment was made questioning if 2 acres is too much space. Opposing comment was made that they should be
preserving more open space, not less. Mr. Arambula clarified the appropriate size depends on whether they want a
park or a square. He stated a 1-acre square is ample, however if they want a park it should be at least 1-acre. He
added he has a sense this
should be an informal park with lots of green plantings and grass and it would be a place
for employees and the surrounding
residents to enjoy.
Parking
Mr. Arambula noted that Plexis would likely provide parking on site in the beginning, but as they expand the parking
structure would provide a good op
tion for them. Suggestion was made to switch the locations of the parking structure
and the park.
Mr. Crandall recommended the park be placed front and center for security reasons. He added parking
structures
tend to be unsightly unless you spend a lot of money on them, and stated if the structure was kept behind
the park, they could choose to enhance just the one side facing the park.
Pedestrian and Bike Circulation
Comment was made questioning why they did not propose protected bike lanes on both sides of the road. Comment
was made that they should extend this to the rest of the City.
Transit
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Development Requirements
Concerns were expressed regarding the proposed 11 story building height. Mr. Arambula acknowledged the groups
concerns and stated they
would check into how the Airport Overlay will affect this and they will revisit this issue.
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 10:20 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
April Lucas, Administrative Assistant
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