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ASHLAND PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MINUTES
SEPTEMBER 9, 2008
CALL TO ORDER
Commission Chair John Stromberg called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. in the Civic Center Council Chambers, 1175 East
Main Street.
Commissioners Present:Staff Present:
John Stromberg, ChairBill Molnar, Community Development Director
Michael Dawkins
Maria Harris, Planning Manager
Mike Morris
April Lucas, Administrative Assistant
Debbie Miller
Pam Marsh
Melanie Mindlin
Tom Dimitre
Dave Dotterrer
Absent Members:Council Liaison:
Michael Church, excusedCate Hartzell
CONSENT AGENDA
Approval of Minutes
A.
1.August 12, 2008 Planning Commission Minutes
Commissioners Morris/Dawkins m/s to approve Consent Agenda. Voice Vote: all AYES. Motion passed.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
None
PUBLIC FORUM
No one came forward to speak.
TYPE III PUBLIC HEARINGS
Water Resource Protection Zones Ordinance
A.
Stromberg commented briefly on the site visits held on September 3 and September 6. He noted the scientist (Jeannine
Rossa) who
joined them on the visits and suggested she be invited to the next Planning Commission meeting to present a
report. Stromberg suggested they proceed with the discussion tonight by making a list of the items they wish to discuss
further, begin those discuss
ions, and then plan on making a final decision at the next meeting. Marsh indicated she is ready
to take action on this ordinance tonight and suggested they have the staff report and public hearing before making a decision
on the process.
Morris stated he is also ready to move forward and noted they have been working on this off and on for 5
years.
Mindlin commented that if they do wait until the next meeting to make a decision, perhaps the Parks Department could
be invited so their comments are made part o
f the record. Miller suggested they hear the staff report and take public input
before deciding how to proceed. Council Liaison Hartzell voiced support for
the Commission waiting and obtaining a report
from Ms. Rossa before making a final decision.
Planning Manager Maria Harris and Community Development Director Bill Molnar addressed the group. Ms. Harris provided a
presentation and
explained the ordinance package before them includes the following components: 1) adoption of the Local
Wetlands Inventory as a technical study that supports the Comprehensive Plan, 2) adoption of the Water Resources Map,
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3) revision of the Floodplain Corridor Lands Map, 4) revision of Chapter 18.62, and 5) addition of Chapter 18.63, Water
Resource Protection Zones.
Ms. Harris reviewed the most recent changes made to the ordinance and listed the July 22 nd edits as the following: 1)
broadened the definition of hand
-held equipment, 2) removed the non-native planting section, 3) added language regarding
pervious paving for
outdoor use area, 4) added an exemption for nonconforming structures, and 5) added an exemption for
previously approved building envelopes and driveways and included a timeline of 36 months. Ms. Harris commented on the
top of bank definition and stated al
most every other jurisdiction in the State uses this definition. She noted the physical
characteristics you look for in identifying top of bank and suggested a diagram be included in the ordinance
. She stated the
ordinance has been updated to indicate the
top of bank definition will be used for riparian corridors, and the remaining
streams would use the center line definition. She stated the protection zone for local streams would be 40 ft. from the center
line, and the protection zone for intermittent and
ephemeral streams would be 30 ft. from the center line. Ms. Harris stated
additional edi
ts include an exemption for the installation of unpaved trails, exempting paving and reconstructing streets and
driveways, and reorganization of the land use approval s
ection.
Ms. Harris noted the ordinance addresses the concerns expressed by the Parks & Recreation Department and the Public
Works Department. She stated the Parks Department requested the exemption for unpaved trails and the Public Works
Department had c
oncerns about being able to remove growth that affects the flow of drainage facilities.
Ms. Harris stated this ordinance package would provide for the systematic protection of wetlands, it would increase the size of
the stream buffer (except for the 6 streams with delineated floodplains), and it would manage the activities in the protection
zone to protect the wetland and riparian functions. She stated staff’s recommendation is for the Planning Commission to
recommend approval of the proposed ordinance to
the City Council.
Royce Duncan/1065 Paradise Lane/
Voiced his concerns with the proposed ordinance. Mr. Duncan commented on the
definition of “significant” and does feel they should be using the 1987 determination of assets.
He referred to the “Oregon
P
rocedures and Requirements for Complying with Goal 5” and the “Report by the Riparian Management Work Group.” He
stated the State is clear that fish bearing streams should be protected, and the City should follow their standards for this.
However, the Stat
e does not address intermittent and local streams and this is something the City has added on. He stated
the current draft is too restrictive and the issues being raised are not regarding the State’s requirements, but rather are being
caused by the City’s
additions.
Dawkins suggested they approve the maps, since they are pretty straightforward, and then begin deliberations on the
ordinance language.
Stromberg suggested they begin discussions by having each member list which areas they would like to
discus
s further. Mindlin stated she would like to discuss storm water, exemptions, structures and pervious surfaces, and
whether to include an ongoing review process in the ordinance. Dotterrer stated he would like to discuss outdoor use areas,
establishing a wa
ter quality baseline, whether the buffer areas are too wide, different levels of protection for different sections
of the streams, exempting Lithia Park and the downtown are
a, and the use of the term “stringent” in 18.62. Miller stated she
would like to di
scuss the reduction of the protection zone up to 50%, outdoor use, nonconforming structures, permeable
pavers, and applying this language to the parcels they visited on their site tours. Dimitre stated he would like to discuss
outdoor uses,
the legal nonconforming uses, canopy covers and how that plays into this, Section 18.63.080, hardship
variances, enforcement, incentives for homeowners, and what role Ms. Rossa might play in this.
Stromberg stated he would
like to discuss the relationship of the ordinanc
e to the flood control regulations, preparing a user’s guide, having some kind of
evolving process for this ordinance, how the sewer system along Ashland Creek will be affected, the relationship between this
ordinance and the TID, what to do about the Call
e and Water Street properties, positive plants lists, how to deal with
chemicals, demonstrations sites, and responding to the proposals from the Ashland Watershed Council.
The Commission took a brief recess to organize the discussion points listed. It was agreed the Commission would hold
discussion until 9:30 p.m. and then continue this item to their next meeting.
Stromberg explained the issues have been separated into three main categories: setbacks, activities, and enforcement. He
added the
few remaining issues that did not fit within one of the categories would be dealt with at the end.
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Hardship Variance
Dimitre questioned the language in 18.63.090.C, which reads “The proposed activity or use of land would have been
permitted prior to the effective date of this ordinance.”
He stated it sounds as if this language exempts the ordinance. Ms.
Harris explained
this language is trying to establish that what someone wants to do could have been done prior to this
ordinance taking affect. She added all 8 criteria listed need to be satisfied in order to qualify for the variance. Dimitre
suggested the ordinance include the word “all” so that this is clear.
Protection Zone Reductions
Miller questioned 18.63.080 and stated 50% seems like a lot for a residential lot, especially the smaller ones. Mr. Molnar
clarified the language reads “up to a 50% reduction” and
this is the maximum, not an automatic amount. He added an
applicant wo
uld need to have a very robust mitigation plan in order for a 50% reduction to be considered. Dimitre stated the
language does not speak to what activities could be exempted and stated he would rather remove this section from the
ordinance, and if that is no
t possible, make it a 25% maximum or a Type II approval to make it more difficult for people to do.
Suggestion was made to possibly include more stringent criteria for this section. Mr. Molnar stated if the Commission wishes
to change this provision, they
need to provide specific direction to staff. Stromberg restated his suggestion to hear Jeannine
Ross
a’s input on this. Marsh voiced concern that this person has now become an authority on this process. Morris agreed
and stated it seems as if they are going
back to the beginning. He noted they have already determined that it is not possible
to map out every lot
along the streams and feels this is where some of the members are heading. Mindlin suggested those
that have issues provide specific suggestions at t
heir next meeting.
Stromberg commented on the notion of having different setbacks for the various sections of a watercourse and asked for the
Commission’s input on this.
Dotterrer stated the functions of a stream change along the course of the stream and voiced
support for looking into this. Stromberg also voiced support for flushing
out this idea. Dimitre noted this ordinance is designed
to protect the entire riparian habitat and not just the fish. He added that he
has concerns about reducing the buffer area and
how this might harm the other wildlife.
Dimitre left the meeting at 9:25 p.m.
Dotterrer questioned the buffer sizes and asked where the 30 ft. and 40 ft. figures came from. Mr. Molnar clarified these
figures are based on
existing knowledge of the community and how the current standards have been applied. He stated staff
felt the current standard
s were inadequate and this is why it was increased.
Stromberg noted they have reached the time they decided they would conclude and announced this hearing would be
continued to the October 16
, 2008 Planning Commission meeting. Morris expressed his concerns with the process and does
not feel they are moving towards as outcome. Stromberg clarified it is his intention to take a vote on this ordinance at thei
r
next hearing.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
None
OTHER
Overview of City Employment Lands Inventory
A.
Mr. Molnar noted there have been a lot of questions regarding the City’s E1 and M1 zoning throughout the Croman Mills
redevelopment process, and
provided a brief presentation on the City’s employment lands inventory. He displayed maps that
outlined the City’s commercial, employment and industrial zones and noted the City’s total net buildable acreage is
approximately 117 acres, and the gross vacant or partially va
cant acreage is 167 acres. Mr. Molnar commented on the types
of building
s you normally see in these areas and displayed several pictures of various industrial buildings in Ashland.
ADJOURNMENT
Meeting adjourned at 10:00 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
April Lucas, Administrative Assistant
Ashland Planning Commission
September 9, 2008
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