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ASHLAND HISTORIC COMMISSION
Meeting Minutes
October 8, 2008
Community Development/Engineering Services Building – 51 Winburn Way – Siskiyou Room
CALL TO ORDER – REGULAR MEETING
Due to the absence of Chairman Shostrom, Vice-Chairman Skibby agreed to run the meeting and at
7:06 pm, called the Historic Commission meeting to order.
Historic Commissioners Present:
Terry Skibby, Allison Renwick, Keith Swink, James Watkins, Sam
Whitford, Henry Baker, Tom Giordano
Absent Commission Members:
Dale Shostrom, Alex Krach
Council Liaison:
Eric Navickas, absent
High School Liaison:
None Appointed
SOU Liaison:
None Appointed
Staff Present:
Planner: Angela Barry; Clerk: Billie Boswell
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Mr. Giordano moved to approve the minutes of the September 3, 2008 meeting as presented. Mr.
Whitford seconded the motion and they were approved unanimously with Mr. Swink and Ms. Renwick
abstaining due to their absence from the meeting.
PUBLIC FORUM:
There being no one wishing to speak, Vice-Chairman Skibby closed the Public
Forum.
DISCUSSION ITEMS:
Paul Christensen provided an update on “The Imagine Project”, a video imaging
project. He stated they were in the process of producing 3 1-hour audio walking tours with brochure
maps for the Historic Downtown and Railroad districts that would available for distribution by spring,
2009. A fee is being considered and they are working on the logistics of what equipment would be used
and how it would be rented out. He thanked Chairman Shostrom and Mr. Krach for the letter of
recommendation they wrote supporting his request for a funding grant. Mr. Skibby requested that copies
of the brochures and scripts be provided the Commissioners for review of content and accuracy. Mr.
Christensen agreed and Mr. Skibby offered to be the contact person.
PUBLIC HEARING:
PLANNING ACTION:
2008-01526
SUBJECT PROPERTY:
281 Fourth Street
APPLICANT:
Noble Coffee
DESCRIPTION:
Request for Site Review approval to locate a coffee shop/restaurant into the existing
building at 281 Fourth Street and for a Variance to the required number of parking spaces to reduce the
number of parking spaces from 12 to 5.
Mr. Giordano disclosed that he had previously worked on a project at this address that was unrelated to
this current project and the applicant involved. He did not feel it would affect his objectivity. The other
Commissioners agreed.
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Ms. Barry explained that the applicants were requesting a change of use from light industrial to a retail
coffee shop. Exterior changes would be limited to exterior color changes, window replacement and
changing the vehicle roll-up door to a glass bay with a glass door, similar to the door into the Standing
Stone. Staff is recommending a variance to the parking requirements. Staff is also recommending the
curb cut in front of the entry be removed and the side reconstructed to current City standards. A permit
for outside seating would be subject to Public Works approval. There were no further questions of staff.
Mark Knox, Steve Sacks, Caleb Peterson and Jared Rennie spoke on behalf of Noble Coffee. Mr. Sacks
explained the concept and why they chose this location. Mr. Knox reviewed the plans for the building.
He pointed out that the applicant preferred not eliminating the curb cut as recommended by staff
because in doing so, the header for the entry door would have to be raised requiring a greater impact on
the historic building. Leaving as is would better retain the original character and use of the structure.
There followed a discussion of how the pedestrians and outside diners would be protected from a car
rolling up onto the sidewalk if there were no curb. Suggestions ranged from bike racks, trees, planters
and wheel stops or combinations of those. The applicants agreed to develop a design that would work.
Mr. Watkins expressed concern over the assumption that most of the coffee house customers would be
walk-ins and said he felt the parking in the area was inadequate. Mr. Rennie felt there would be and
pointed out that many of the gallery owners in the area were anxious for other businesses such as this
that would provide additional incentives to customers coming into the area.
There being no further questions of the applicants and no one in the audience wishing to speak, the
public hearing was closed.
Mr. Watkins questioned why staff would recommend adding bike racks to an already standard size
sidewalk. He felt there may not be enough room for pedestrians, outdoor seating, and bikes. Ms. Barry
said the bike racks were planned for the park row.
Mr. Giordano stated he supported the plan, including leaving the curb cut, as long as there is some
mitigation for the lack of a parking curb such as a bike rack, bollard, bench, etc. to stop cars from being
able to travel up onto the sidewalk. Vice-Chairman Skibby stated the building was not significant and
non-contributing but leaving the framework of the original roll up door would retain the history. He felt
the new use would be an asset to the area. Mr. Watkins and Ms. Renwick agreed. Mr. Whitford added
that because of all the B & B’s in the area, there would be many walkers that would utilize the coffee
shop.
Mr. Baker made a motion to recommend approval of the application and to recommend allowing the
existing curb cut to remain if some kind of visual and physical barrier could be provided to assure
pedestrian and bicycle safety. Ms. Renwick seconded the motion and it was approved unanimously.
OLD BUSINESS
Planning Action: 2007-01939, 175 Lithia Way – Review of proposed Building Plans
A.
Jerome White and Evan Archerd and Mark Knox discussed the changes they had made to the plans as
recommended by the Historic Commission. Vice-Chairman Skibby asked about the pedestrian cover on
the North elevation that was asked for. Mr. Knox said there were pedestrian covers on all three other
sides of the building and they felt it just wasn’t needed on the fourth side. Ms. Renwick felt the back of
the building would be very exposed, especially to the residential area, and should be highlighted more.
Varying the color of center section would be sufficient to add additional interest.
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Mr. Giordano made a motion to revise the original recommendation to allow the applicants to eliminate
the pedestrian awning on the north elevation, but asked that they incorporate a color variation to the
center section of the rear elevation. Mr. Watkins seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
Review Board Schedule
B.
th
October 9 Terry, Keith, James
th
October 16 Terry, Henry, Dale
rd
October 23 Terry, Tom, Allison
th
October 30 Terry, Sam, James
th
November 6 Terry, Keith, Alex
Project Assignments For Planning Actions
C.
BD-2005-234 Vista St (Deboer) Upper & Lower Poolhouse Swink
(under contruction)
00092,93
BD-2007-0054511 First St (Ron Yamaoka) (under construction)Skibby
BD-2008-00275125 Sherman Street (Russ Dale) {Under construction}Shostrom
Shostrom/Giordano
BD-2007-01764160 Helman (Batzer-Comm Bldgs) {Permit ready to issue}
BD-2007-00792237 Almond Street (Don Sever – ARU) {Under Construction}Whitford
PA-2007-01939175 Lithia Wy Renwick
Archerd & Dresner-Mixed Use Bldg
(formerly 165 Lithia)–(No Permit yet)
BD-2008-00627542 A St (Gremmels/Delgado – Rebuild Shed {Under construction}Skibby
nd
BD-2008-01083872 B St. – 2 story Addition (Under construction)Shostrom
PA#2008-00596165 W Fork – New SFR on hillside (Ashley Jensen) Swink/Shostro
(project on hold per
appl)
m
PA#2008-01005637/649 E Main – Renwick
2 Additional motel units(Runkel) Anne Hathaway Cottages
PA#2008-01526281 Fourth St – Noble Coffee RoasterWhitford
Single Family Residential Design Standards – Question was raised about whether or not to remove
D.
this item from Old Business on the agenda. It was decided to leave it on and to develop a public
information brochure regarding changing out windows in the Historic District. Another brochure on
general responsibilities for maintaining and remodeling homes within the Historic District was also
suggested.
NEW BUSINESS
– CLG Grant – Ms. Barry asked for suggestions on using the CLG grant monies. It
was decided to use the funds to produce the two brochures discussed for Window Change-outs and
remodeling a Historic Home.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
The next Historic Commission meeting will be on November 5, 2008 at 7:00 pm in the Siskiyou Room.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the unanimous decision of the Commission to adjourn the meeting at 8:35 p.m.
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