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ASHLAND PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MINUTES
JULY 12, 2005
CALL TO ORDER
Chair John Fields called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. at the Ashland Civic Center,
1175 E. Main Street, Ashland, OR.
Commissioners Present: John Fields, Chair
Russ Chapman
Allen Douma
Dave Dotterrer
Olena Black
John Stromberg
Mike Morris
Kerry KenCairn
Michael Dawkins
Absent Members: : None
Council Liaison: Jack Hardesty, absent
Staff Present: John McLaughlin, Planning Director
Bill Molnar, Planning Manager
Sue Yates, Executive Secretary
ANNOUNCEMENTS – There were no announcements.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Black/Dotterrer m/s to approve the minutes of the June 14, 2005 Regular Meeting. Voice
Vote: All approved..
PUBLIC FORUM – No one came forth to speak
TYPE II PUBLIC HEARINGS
PLANNING ACTION: #2005-00873
SUBJECT PROPERTY: 905 N. Mountain Avenue
OWNER/APPLICANT: Medinger Construction Company
DESCRIPTION: Request for a Site Review approval for eight mixed-use
buildings comprised of commercial and residential condominiums for the property
located at 905 N. Mountain Ave. A parking structure will be located below the
buildings. This is the third phase of the Quinn Subdivision, and is .80 acres located
between N. Mountain Ave., Plum Ridge Dr., and the future street named Fair Oaks
Court.
Site Visits and Ex Parte Contacts
Site visits were made by Chapman, Douma, Dotterrer, Black, Stromberg, Morris, KenCairn
and Dawkins. Fields is familiar with the site.
KenCairn is working with one of Medinger’s contractors on another project and she could
have a potential conflict of interest. She feels she can make an impartial decision.
What was seen on site visit that would influence them in any way?
Dawkins visited the site. Stromberg saw the large blackberry berm. Black listened to the ambient
noise coming from the freeway. How noisy should a “village green” be? Douma found that his
site visit helped put all the diagrams in the packet into perspective and allowed him to have a
better sense of what was going on. Douma and Dotter found that the site visit helped put all the
diagrams in the packet into perspective and allowed them to have a better sense of what was
going on. Non of the Commissioners felt anything about their site visit would influence them one
way or the other.
STAFF REPORT
Molnar gave some historical background on this application as outlined in the Staff
Report. Staff approved the application administratively and it was called up for a public
hearing. The proposal involves the last .8 of an acre that is within the North Mountain
Neighborhood Plan area and Central Overlay District (neighborhood commercial district)
allowing for mixed use (ground floor commercial/residential above). Molnar showed
photos of the site and site plans. Access to the project is off the south alley. An item of
concern raised by a neighbor requesting the public hearing is the status of the alley and
the large area of blackberry bushes within the public right -of-way. The applicant’s
landscaping plan shows removal of the blackberries and replanting it with a more formal
landscape plan.
The applicant is proposing to construct eight buildings, consisting of 20 condominium
spaces, 16 of which are residential and four commercial. The four commercial
condominiums are on the ground floor. There is no off-street parking requirement in the
Neighborhood Central District. Residential units are required one space per residential
unit. The applicant is proposing a 31 space underground parking structure below the
building, accessed off the alley. The plan identifies a larger yard area proposed for the
southeast corner of the property. Three trees are proposed for removal.
The alley was platted as public right-of-way during the approval of the Quinn and Plum
Ridge Subdivisions. It is a public alley. The right-of-way does not extend all the way to
the North Mountain right-of-way. The neighbor requesting the hearing lives immediately
south of the southeast corner of the project.. He is concerned with the removal of the
blackberry bushes in the right-of-way and that the planting plan shows more lower
growing vegetation that would not afford as much privacy. The Tree Commission has
reviewed the landscape plan and has suggested the landscaping plan be modified to
include more of an evergreen hedge or a continuous site-obscuring evergreen trees. Staff
endorses the Tree Commission recommendation and suggested adding a few evergreen
trees but not the point it would create too much shade covering the south yard. The
applicant is proposing some of the plantings within the existing alley right-of-way. That
would take an encroachment permit from the Public Works Department, usually agreeing
the plantings could be removed if the City needed to utilize the right-of-way. They don’t
anticipate the alley to ever be needed for a vehicular connection to North Mountain. A
Condition 12 has been included.
Staff believes the design meets the design standards of the North Mountain Plan by
having the commercial look on the ground floor with pedestrian areas, awnings, larger
windows, etc. Twenty-three Conditions have been added.
The following questions came up that were addressed to the applicant.
?An important tree on the site had a branch removed (or it fell off) that was
overhanging the property. How can the tree like that be allowed to lose a major
branch?
?What is the grade leading out of the parking garage? (Condition 21)
?Are they any elevations showing the corridor area?
?Is there significant amount of water drainage at the underground garage level? If
so, should it be within the Commission’s purview?
PUBLIC HEARING
LARRY MEDINGER, 115 Fork Street, explained on the important tree had a limb
hanging down on the ground and was rotting. Removing some of the top of the tree will
help keep it healthier.
Medinger said the alley had always been planned to end with no connection. The idea
was to not have an aley open to an arterial. Staff’s idea of stipulating a path is
accepatable.
According to Medinger, the Neighborhood Plan is clear that the commercial node serves
the neighborhood, and there is no building square footage restriction on residential. It will
take a long time to build it out. Even then, the commercial may not fly. It is required to
build the commercial on the ground floor.
Medinger said there is a little surface water but down deep it is dry..
He explained the corridor elevations.
He said the driveway ramp is less than 15 percent slope. They are widening it from 12
feet to 20 feet.
He agreed with the Tree Commission and Staff recommendations for buffering the
southeastern area of the lot with taller plantings.
MICHAEL GOMEZ, 895 North Mountain Avenue, thought the monstrous buildings will
form a solid wall above him. The park will invite a tremendous amount of trespassing
and he is afraid small children and dogs will gravitate to his property and will be a
livability issue for him. He can post the property but that will only go so far. He owns
eight feet of the alley. He would like privacy. Deciduous trees are not private during the
winter. He would like to see some relatively quick growing trees. He’s concerned about
his part of the blackberries and rose hips being destroyed when they are removing
Medinger’s portion.
Gomez said there is an opportunity to install a fence that could go on the property line or
slightly over on Medinger’s property to help his trespassing issue. Gomez said the
CC&R’s in Mountain Meadows would likely come into play.
Staff Comments – Molnar said when they looked at the remaining end of the right-of-way
(16 feet), it seemed to provide an opportunity to keep an informal path and it seemed that
area could be designed through the landscaping plan to benefit both property owners.
The Commission could clarify or elaborate Condition 3.
Rebuttal – Medinger said he would be fine with a fence and he’d move it six inches onto
his property.
Dawkins wondered if Medinger would be amenable to working with the neighbor to
develop a plan to stagger the hedging type effect, making a much better project visually
in addition to the small fence. Medinger agreed to work with the neighbors.
Dotterrer/KenCairn m/s to approve PA2005-873 with the following changes: Add to
Condition 12 that there be a minimum five foot wide public pathway (from the end of the
alley to the public right-of-way on North Mountain) to the north of the proposed fence on
the south side of the property and on the applicant’s property. Add to Condition 3 that at
least two or full size stature evergreens go in along the southeast property line to start to
break up the view of the building. Add Condition 24 that a six and one-half foot fence
maximum height, solid site obscuring fence be installed slightly on the applicant’s
property on the south property boundary. Roll Call: The vote was unanimous.
PLANNING ACTION: #2005-00696
SUBJECT PROPERTY: N. Mountain Avenue and E. Nevada Street
OWNER/APPLICANT: Camelot Family Homes, LLC
DESCRIPTION: Request for Commercial Site Review approval for four mixed-use
buildings comprised of commercial and residential condominiums units in the “Village
Center” area of the Meadowbrook Park Subdivision located at N. Mountain Avenue and
E. Nevada Street.
Site Visits and Ex Parte Contacts
Dawkins had a site visit. Two weeks ago, the entire Planning Commission heard from a
neighbor a condemnation of the applicant before us tonight.. He’s uncomfortable with
that, however, he feels he can judge the application without prejudice. The other
Commissioners each had site visits and agreed that they heard the same thing, but none
felt the testimony given would prejudice them with regard to the application tonight.
Black said in addition to her site visit, Mr. Marr tried to talk to her but she said she could
not. She has had some experience with the builder in the building of Meadowbrook Park
I and she has concerns and feels the developers are following a pattern. There was a
dispute regarding the common area in her homeowner’s association in Meadowbrook I
that raised questions about the deeds and lack of detailed information however, she still
believes she can be fair and unbiased because there were about three other sides to their
issue. They have had some problems reconciling the CC&R’s.
STAFF REPORT
Molnar said this application involves the development of four separate lots. The infrastructure is
not yet complete. The survey plat has not yet been signed. Each of the four lots is referred to as
a “series” and each series contains multiple buildings: Series 1 – Village Green, Series 2, Plaza
West, Series 3 – Plaza East, Series 4 – Plaza South.
The clock tower is now a viewing tower. It will cover the public space at street grade. The public
space associated with this public area be landscaped.
They are beginning to construct the surface streets in the area, however, building permits cannot
be issues until the infrastructure is in (a Condition has been added)..
This action was approved administratively and David Young requested a public hearing. He is
concerned that East Nevada will be reaised four and one-half feet above his property and it is
already depressed. He believes he will be negatively impacted by the development. Dr. Young
has been in discussions with the applicant. .
Molnar showed photos of the site and the relationship to Young’s property. Generally, as part of
a subdivision, they will look at accommodating a driveway with an adjacent property owner. The
approved engineering plan shows a driveway and where there can be transitional fill allowing for
a gradual descent to Young’s property (see Condition 7). Young is also requesting additional fill
to bring up a building site, but Staff is reluctant to grant the request.
The applicant is showing downstairs commercial spaces and upstairs residential spaces. They
are anticipating 50 to 60 parking spaces that would accommodate 22,000 to 27,000 square feet
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of office space. Staff feels there will be sufficient parking to
accommodate the commercial.
Black had a problem with the noticing of this development. The sign posted on the property didn’t
(AND MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE – SHOWED WRONG # OF
give sufficient detail
PARCELS??).
Molnar explained the sign has to have a sufficient amount of detail and it has to
show the location of the site.
Black asked about a possible I-5 exit onto North Mountain in the future. Dotterrer said the State
of Oregon has said there will never be an on/off ramp at North Mountain.
PUBLIC HEARING
ALAN HARPER –
Harper asked before beginning his testimony to ask a procedural question. Fields granted him
time. Harper asked what he has heard so far concerning ex parte contacts, as cause him to
raisse some concerns. He has not idea what the disclosures are that were given. To what are
the Commissioners referring?
Reeder – if they want to ask about the substance, do so now.
Harper – there would
Dawkins explained that one of the neighbors (Mat Marr) spoke two weeks ago and strongly
criticized the progress and handling by the property owners of the No. Mountain Land Company
project. Everyone at the meeting heard it. Even though Dawkins heard it, he was not moved by
Marr’s testimony.
KenCairn added that Marr was trying to negotiate proper treatment of their property and Dawkins
said Marr’s testimony deatlt with fiscal responsibility. Stromberg noted what was happening on
this property affected the White’s ability to begin building on their property.
Stromberg asked if the property owner was planning to pave or not? Harper asked if they did not
respond to that because it is not an approval criteria, willthat bias the Commission. Douma
reiterated that everyone had said they did not have a bias.
Harper would like to just stick with the applicable criteria for the project in front of the Commission
tonight. He believes Staff did a good job looking at the criteria. Young’s contention is a collateral
attack from two years ago. It is the same thing with the Marrs’. Neither of these issues have
anything to do with the application tonight.
KenCairn –
Harper – he now doesn’t feel that there is
McLaughlin addressed Black asking if she was going to use that financial information and other
stuff not related to the application in the review of this project? Black answered that the criteria
has nothing to do with the applicant’s good will, however, it is important.
McLaughlin said Molnar raised the issue of the location of Young’s driveway curb cut. Staff
believes there is a relationship of how the driveway is located. But, beyond that, trying to make
adjustments to other projects is not related.
Stromberg – transportation aspects can justify raising this issue. ???
Mac – issue Mol raised is the location of a driveway curb cut. Staff’s belief is there is a
relationship of how the dw is located. But beyond that, trying to make other adjustments to other
projects is not?// related.
Harper began his testimony?????????
BOB FOSTER, 431 Ash Street, Lake Oswego, OR 97034, talked about building elevations.
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Foster described the building series.
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There was a question about parking. If the ground floor commercial ends up being used for
residential, there is a private lot that has 23 parking spaces. Through an outside market study,
Foster said they found there is a need for commercial.
All the buildings face the square to create a downtown village square for the whole neighborhood.
It is less than half an acre (just the grass)
Harper said they have not objections to Condition 3. They are asking that Condition 7 be
removed. They asked the wording under Condition 10 to say “approximately” one tree every
thirty feet. Rather than a “four by four foot planter,” they are anticipating a “three by five foot
planter” (tree grates) to allow for handicap access. The sidewalk width will vary, but going down
the building by the octagon building, it narrows. There are two Condition 15’s. Renumber the
conditions.
Foster said the existing Siberian elms on the north side, adjacent to the north side, they were all
trimmed and the crown is all distorted and they are hanging. The Tree Commission agreed the
applicants could straighten the crowns of the trees. They will have an arborist look at the tree on
the west that appears to be rotting.
Harper disagrees with Staff regarding Young’s property. His property no way serves the
applicant’s project. It does not apply to the site plan nor does it apply to the criteria.
KenC – he wants it struck and he thinks it should be.
Molnar said the first Condition 15 applies as Staff wants to make sure the garages are used for
parking purposes.
Black said the landscape plan shows the main entrance to the octagon coming in from the
southeast, but on page 4, Series 1, shows the entrance is due east. Foster said that was an error
and the entrance is southeast.
Black thought the governance of the CC&R’s could be difficult with condominium owners and
commercial renters.
TOM MARR, 955 North Mountain, said the applicant has been working in some form on all four
sides of his property for over a year. During that time they have suffered numerous irriations,
distractions, personal and property damage caused by multiple violations of City building and
planning codes and poor communication. Marr listed the numerous problem. There also seems to
be a property line adjustment problem too and he believes this invalidates the original plan. He
would like to see all of their differences resolved in a timely and equitable manner for all parties.
Assistant City Attorney, Mike Reeder, stated that challenging Conditions of approval from
previous projects are collateral to his application. McLaughlin said Outline Plan occurred about
two years ago. The issues Marr is raising are being handled through enforcement action with the
applicant. The City has not taken any steps to invalidate previous approvals. The applicant has
an approved plan and they are moving ahead with the project. Marr’s issues are not for the
review by the Planning Commission as it relates to this planning action.
IRAJ OSTOVAR, 389 E. Hersey Street, gave his time to Tim Bossard.
Douma/Black m/s to continue the meeting to 10:30 p.m. Everyone approved.
DAVID YOUNG, 348 S. Modoc Avenue, Medford, OR, turned in a numbered handout. Page 1
shows the property location, Page 2 confirms he has a buildalbe lot, Page 3 and 4 showing the
proposed driveway from the applicant. He was told by Jim Olson, Engineering Department, that
the location of the driveway was a matter of negotiation. The applicant was to negotiate with him.
No negotiations have taken place. His project has been held up eight months because he’s had
no response from the applicant. Any position of the driveway will create drainage problems.
Young said there is no utility access at this point. He was led to believe placement of the
driveway was still an open question because the City has not signed off.
TIM BOSSARD, Engineer, has offices in Grants Pass and Medford, said he put a packet together
for the Commissioners. They were hoping to agree to a solution to 1) access and grading of the
lot, 2) sewer connection, and 3) drainage. Bossard offered as a solution. They wanted to create
a reasonable access to simulate what was there before the road went in. The photos are taken at
different angles and location to show the height of the finished roadway and the grade difference,
and the potential drainage coming from the freeway Bossard said the preliminary plan was two-
dimensional and Dr. Young could not see the potential discrepancies in the grading.
IRAJ OSTOVAR, 389 E. Hersey Street, read a note from Jim Olson.
Reeder recommended striking Condition 7.
MAT MARR, 955 N. Mountain asked for time not included for testimony to address procedural
issues. Fields granted him that time. He strongly agrees with Planning Staff and their
interpretation that there is a logical nexus between the issues raised by Dr. Young and Tom Marr
relating to the Site Plan approval. Fields said this topic does not really cover procedural issues
such as ex parte contacts and Marr began his five minutes of testimony.
Marr referred to Criteria A, that all applicable ordinances have or will be met by the proposed
development. Staff’s Condition 2 regarding the Site Review says that all applicable conditions for
Outline and Final Plan approval shall remain in effect. Marr contends that Criteria A and
Condition 2, the Final Plan must continue to be valid and implemented in a way the Planning
Commission requested it be done. He will show how the applicants are in breech. All of the
following issues have been created by the applicant:
1. The applicants have raised a fundamental question as to the surveys of the property.
A few feet may not seem like much, but the project could barely meet solar.
2. The applicant’s encroachment shows the project is not buildable within the project
boundaries.
3. Condition 3 of Final Plan calls for construction fencing to be put around the property
through the duration of the project. They agreed in a letter to the City to reinstall the
fencing, but it is still not up. They have been in violation for six months.
On behalf of Young, Marr said paved access to and through the development will be provided.
The enforcement actions city has tried to take have been significantly hampered on the part of the
applicant.
The applicants built a drain box on the Marr’s property. They have lost the use of part of their
property. Their fence has been trampled. He asked the applicant designate a contact person
who has final authority for making decisions on the project. He believes the issues raised in a
letter written by Alan Harper should be resolved prior to final plat and all issues related to
damages to Mr. Young’s property and the Marr’s property should be resolved before final plat.
Dotterrer/Black m/s to continue the meeting to 11:00 p.m. Everyone approved.
Rebuttal – Harper said fixing Young’s driveway issue won’t even address the grade problem. He
distinguished the Young issue from the Marr’s issue. First of all, Harper took exception to Black’s
Young project is being
comment about the applicant’s pattern of violating the conditions. The
built out as approved
. Did Harper mean the Camelot project???? That is completely different
than Marr saying there is a condition of approval for construction fencing, etc. These are all
issues that are being addressed. Harper is confident the issues will be resolved.
COMMISSIONERS’ DISCUSSION AND MOTION
Fields clarified that it is not the Planning Commission’s role at this point to enforce violations.
Stromberg asked Reeder about the first two Marr’s comments about Criteria A and Condition 2.
Reeder said the applicant is not asking us to change Outline Plan or Final Plan.
Chapman agreed Condition 7 should be stricken.
KenCairn said the Tree Commission wants the trees planted one per 30 feet, not one every 30
feet.
Fields notes the tree grates are a design standard and shouldn’t be a handicap obstacle.
Chapman asked if everyone is comfortable with the façade. KenCairn believes it meets what has
come forward in past applications. Fields believes a lot of the elements are coming through from
the North Mountain Plan.
Fields said applications usually come forward with a table summarizing the spaces in a project.
Does Staff believe the applicant has satisfied the requirements? Molnar believes the information
is included in the packet.
Dotterrer/Chapman m/s to approve Planning Action 2005-696 with the exception of dropping
Condition 7 and re-numbering the Conditions from Condition 15 on. (Everyone was talking at
once and I heard Mac say something about the tree grates – did that get changed? What
happened with the trees every 30 feet??)
Black said it puts the neighbors at an enormous disadvantage if their only recourse is to hire a
lawyer if one’s property is developed right next to that neighbor(s).
Fields said they would like to see the City use their full strength of enforcement and get their
attention.
Roll Call: Unanimous.approval.
PLANNING ACTION 2005-00960
APPLICANT: City of Ashland
DESCRIPTION:
Request for an ordinance amendment to the Sign Regulations, Chapter 18.96 of
the Ashland Municipal Code, regarding number of business frontages.
Douma/KenCairn m/s to make a recommendation to move the sign ordinance changes forward to
the City Council.
Roll Call: Unanimous.
PLANNING ACTION 2005-00965
APPLICANT: City of Ashland
DESCRIPTION:
Request for an ordinance amendment to the Tree Preservation and Protection,
Chapter 18.61 of the Ashland Municipal Code, regarding applicability to building permits
Douma/Black m/s to make a recommendation to move the tree ordinance changes forward to the
City Council.
Roll Call Morris, Fields, Black, Dotterrer, Dawkins,Chapman, Douma, KenCairn voted “yes” and
Stromberg voted “no.”
ADJOURNMENT – The meeting was adjourned at 11:00 p.m.