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ASHLAND PLANNING COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
SEPTEMBER 13, 2005
MINUTES
CALL TO ORDER
Chair John Fields called the meeting to order at 7:10 p.m. at the Ashland Civic Center, 1175 E. Main Street, Ashland, OR
97520.
Commissioners Present:
John Fields, Chair
Olena Black
John Stromberg
Michael Dawkins
Allen Douma
Dave Dotterrer
Kerry KenCairn
Mike Morris
Russ Chapman
Council Liaison:
Jack Hardesty, present
Staff Present:
Bill Molnar, Interim Planning Director
Maria Harris, Senior Planner
Mike Reeder, Assistant City Attorney
Sue Yates, Executive Secretary
ANNOUNCEMENTS
Fields said there will be a study session in two weeks.
Molnar said the search firm that will be looking for potential candidates for the Planning Director’s position will also be in
town toward the end of September, trying to create a community profile for the individual. They will want to talk to Planning
Commissioners too. The week prior, Mr. Zucker will be in town working on the organizational audit for the Planning Division.
He will be doing a number of interviews with the Council, Planning Commission Chair, and two focus groups consisting of
citizens at large and those involved in the development process. The visit by the consultants doing the land use update will be
the third week in October. The Commissioners might be thinking who would like to participate along with one or two
Councilors at an advisory stakeholder meeting.
Fields reminded the Commissioners to keep their packets for Planning Action #2005-01476 that has been postponed
until next month (290 Skycrest).
APPROVAL OF MINTUES AND FINDINGS
Approval of Findings - July 12, 2005
Findings for PA2005-00873, 905 North Mountain Avenue, Medinger Construction
Dotterrer/Douma m/s to approve the .
Voice Vote: Unanimous.
Findings for PA2005-00696, Meadowbrook Park Subdivision, Camelot Family
Douma/Dotterrer m/s to approve the
Homes
. Voice Vote: Unanimous.
Approval of Findings - August 9, 2005
There is a typographic error under Paragraph 2.9. It should read “Planning Commission,” not “Hearings Board.”
Findings for PA 2005-01050, 720 and 730 Liberty Street, Dale Shostrom
KenCairn/Dotterrer m/s to approve the . Voice
Vote: Unanimous.
Findings for PA2005-01313, 917 E. Main Street, Jerry Quast
Dotterrer/KenCairn m/s to approve the . Stromberg stated he
was voting against it because there was no deliberation. Under Paragraph 2.7, Stromberg wondered if a precedent is set by
finding that changing from a grocery store to a coffee shop is not a change in use. Reeder said every application will be fact
specific. Voice Vote: Douma, Fields, Dotterrer, KenCairn, Morris, Dawkins, Morris voted “yes” and Black and Stromberg
voted “no.”
Approval of Minutes
July 26, 2005 Study Session, August 9, 2005 Regular Meeting, August 9, 2005 Hearings Board (Dotterrer, KenCairn,
Dawkins), and August 23, 2005 Study Session. Voice Vote: Unanimous
PUBLIC FORUM
- No one came forth to speak.
TYPE II PLANNING ACTION
PLANNING ACTION: 2005-00964
APPLICANT: CITY OF ASHLAND
REQUEST FOR AN ORDINANCE AMENDMENT TO THE PERFORMANCE STANDARDS OPTIONS, CHAPTER 18.88 OF THE
ASHLAND MUNICIPAL CODE RELATING TO CONSERVATION DENSITY BONUS FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENTS.
STAFF REPORT
Molnar explained that this is an ordinance amendment that has been before the Planning Commission a couple times. It is to
amend the current Conservation Density Bonus Point provision. The substitute language would ultimately guide development
so builders would be required to construct 85 percent of their homes in a development to Earth Advantage standards. The staff
report provides a brief history of incentives, dating back to 1981. There is a letter from the Conservation Commission
supporting the proposed amendment.
The ordinance change would modify the ordinance, maintain the density bonus at 15 percent, and require 85 percent of the
homes after the bonus is added on to comply with the Earth Advantage standards.
DICK WANDERSCHEID, Manager of the City’s Electric Utility and Conservation Dept
., said the Density Bonus system we have
currently is not working very well. It is difficult to implement and rewards builders for what is now common practice. He
likes Earth Advantage because it guarantees the house is going to be 15 percent more efficient than the energy code and also
rolls in other resource conservation issues. Because it is fuel blind, it allows them to impact all new houses in Ashland.
Wanderscheid noted there is a memo in the packet summarizing why Earth Advantage is a good thing. He emphasized that
with $3 a gallon gasoline and natural gas going up somewhere from 18 to 22 percent, this is becoming more and more of an
issue. The houses we build today are going to be standing for at least100 to 150 years. Any help we can have in a land
development ordinance makes the voluntary program work a lot better. Wanderscheid urged the Planning Commission to
make a unanimous recommendation to the Council to make this change and move on with trying to improve the resource
conservation activities in the building community in town. He added they also have a program where an individual builder can
come to them and build a home and receive a $1000 incentive
Wanderscheid said Earth Advantage has to be 15 percent more efficient than the building code. It insures the homes exceed
the State energy code by 15 percent. Many homes are more than 15 percent, but it doesn’t necessarily mean the occupants will
use 15 percent less energy.
LARRY GIARDINA, Energy Specialist
, said they have developed a prescriptive path they can follow in addition to modeling
individual plans to help people meet the 15 percent.
Douma asked about the 50 points required. Giardina said those are base requirements. Three of the categories are related
specifically to energy efficiency but to resource efficiency and environmental protection. Pollution would be reduced or
degradation of a timber resource would be reduced, in other words, something external to the house.
Dotterrer wondered if the ordinance change is made, can the worksheet be changed at any time? Wanderscheid suspected the
worksheet could be changed administratively to make it either more or less stringent.
Stromberg felt an approval should be delayed in order to see a cost benefit analysis. How much is it costing the developer
versus how much does the developer profit from this change? How much does it cost the City versus how much does the City
gain?
Wanderscheid asked the Commission to keep in mind that every subdivision approved between now and the time the ordinance
could be implemented can still give density bonuses that are a lot less stringent than the Earth Advantage program.
KenCairn said they have been looking at this for a couple of years. The Commission has been approving subdivisions and the
City is not getting much from that. Six months to wait is a big difference especially since we are in an energy crisis.
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Wanderscheid said Earth Advantage is a utility program. There are not many cities that use their land use ordinance to foster
energy efficient or resource efficient development. Portland General Electric has the program and there are builders in
Portland that are building Earth Advantage homes. Stromberg sees this as entering the City (and citizens) into a business
transaction.
Dotterrer is concerned about the complexity of the program. He asked a builder about the program and the builder said he
looked into it at the City and thought it was too complicated and difficult. It seems like we are trying to influence the behavior
of a certain group.
Wanderscheid said the Earth Advantage program gives builders much more flexibility.
Dotterrer asked about oversight and supervision and who does it. Wanderscheid said his department looks at every house.
Builders have to sign an agreement that they will stay within the Earth Advantage program. They won’t get paid $1000 if they
don’t comply.
Chapman said Wanderscheid and Giardina are City hired experts. They have researched this and have done a considerable
amount of work on this program. If there were significant problems, he trusts they would bring it to the Commission. They
deal with developers on a day-to-day basis and he trusts that if they say this program will further benefit the interests of our
Comprehensive Plan, then we need to support this program.
Fields said he built the first house under the Earth Advantage program. He learned a lot. The current standards don’t work.
There is an embodied value in the house because it is using less energy and it fits into the current program. Super Good Cents
is gone. Now we have this new one that is based on sustainability values and broader social conservation values. This is a
social commitment. It is hard for builders but they will get better at it because they will have multiple houses to build. The
Conservation staff is very tuned into the resources it demands.
Douma said this is a significant step different from the ordinance we currently have. Is it a good idea for the Commission to
endorse a concept like indoor air quality as an add-on to our energy efficiency goals and objectives? He’ concerned because of
his involvement with the sick building syndrome.
Giardina said one of the ways we’ve made houses more energy efficient is to make them tighter. There is a responsibility to
make sure there is enough fresh air and that the materials you introduce into the home are not going to create health hazards to
the occupants of the home. They use a measure whereby they have to test how tight the house is.
Wanderscheid sad Bonneville did an entire Environmental Impact Statement on the indoor air quality of SGC and concluded
ventilation to the houses was needed. He can get documentation. Giardina said Washington adopted ventilation standards into
their building code.
Fields told those who were not favorable to the ordinance change to contact the Council members or do further study.
Chapman/KenCairn m/s to recommend to the Council the Planning Commission’s support of this ordinance change
under PA2005-00964. KenCairn, Chapman, Dawkins, Black, Fields and Morris voted “yes.” Douma, Stromberg and
Dotterrer voted “no.”
PLANNING ACTION: #2005-00084
SUBJECT PROPERTY: 165 LITHIA WAY & 123 N. FIRST STREET
OWNER/APPLICANT: ARCHERD & DRESNER, LLC, AND REDCO, LLC
DESCRIPTION: REQUEST FOR A SITE REVIEW APPROVAL OF A MIXED-USE COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT
TO BE LOCATED AT 165 LITHIA WAY AND 123 N. FIRST ST. THE PROPOSAL INCLUDES TWO 3-STORY MIXED-USE
COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL BUILDINGS. IN ADDITION, SIX ROW HOUSES ARE PROPOSED. A TOTAL OF
APPROXIMATELY 14,700 SQUARE FEET OF RETAIL AND OFFICE SPACE AND A TOTAL OF 41 RESIDENTIAL UNITS ARE
INCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT. THE SITE IS LOCATED IN THE DETAIL SITE REVIEW ZONE, AND IS SUBJECT TO
THE DETAIL SITE REVIEW STANDARDS AND TO THE DOWNTOWN DESIGN STANDARDS. IN ADDITION, THE PROPOSAL IS
SUBJECT TO THE LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS BECAUSE IT EXCEEDS 10,000 SQUARE FEET IN SIZE AND
INCLUDES BUILDINGS GREATER THAN 100 FEET IN LENGTH. AN ADMINISTRATIVE VARIANCE FROM THE SITE DESIGN AND
USE STANDARDS IS REQUESTED FOR THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS. A TREE REMOVAL PERMIT IS REQUESTED
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TO REMOVE FOUR TREES ON SITE. THE APPLICANT HAS APPLIED FOR A LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT, CHANGING THE
CONFIGURATION OF THE LOT LINES OF THE TWO PARCELS
.
Site Visits and Ex Parte Contacts
Mike Reeder, Assistant City Attorney, said the Commissioners have to re-state any previous ex parte contacts.
Morris saw David Chapman and David asked him a question he couldn’t answer. At the last meeting, he spoke with Colin
Swales about the Downtown Plan.
KenCairn spoke with various people about whether or not she should sit on the Commission during this meeting. She decided
not to step down because she does not want to be used as a reason for someone to appeal it. She has not had discussions with
anyone and she does not have any financial involvement. She believes there is enough energy around people believing she
cannot be neutral because of various relationships she has with various people, and those people choose to attack her integrity.
She does not want to have her integrity publicly doubted.
Chapman respects KenCairn’s decision but as far as he is concerned, KenCairn’s integrity is unassailable and he does not want
to lose her expertise.
Fields has had various relationships with Evan Archerd. He built the building across the street. He will be doing the addition
across the street. They have had no discussions about this and he does not believe it will affect his decision-making.
Dotterrer, Douma, and Chapman have had no ex parte contacts.
Dawkins reported no ex parte contacts and noted again he had not attended any of the charrettes.
Stromberg said his contacts were as noted at previous meetings. He has had to tell people to stop talking about this project.
What he has heard is that people are concerned about the bulk and scale of the building and appropriateness of the project.
Black attended a charrette toward the end of that process. The last time she had a phone conservation but during that did get a
general comment about bulk. She had someone ask her tonight about solar access and she referred them to Senior Planner,
Maria Harris.
It was noted that the public hearing will be opened and new testimony will be taken, in addition to reviewing past testimony.
All issues are on the table.
STAFF REPORT
Molnar reviewed the Staff Report Addendum. In June the applicants were granted additional time to address the issues. In
August the applicants submitted new information responding to the 20 foot front yard requirement. There has been only one
minor change and that is that there has been a slight shifting of some of the underground parking to insure that the entire
underground parking configuration is within the outline of the footprint of the building. The applicants have responded to a
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number of the issues in Mike Reeder’s memo of June 13 where he outlines issues open to interpretation by the Planning
Commission. A letter from the Transportation Engineer for the project is included, giving a short synopsis of his initial impact
study.
Molnar said the issue we left off with was the Special Setback Requirement as referred to in General Regulations, Chapter
18.68. There was a determination made by the City Attorney that along arterial streets in this section of the town that there was
a 20 foot front yard requirement applying to this project. The site plan showed the buildings were approximately seven to eight
feet set back from the front property line, therefore, the proposal at that point violated the provision and the Commission
allowed the applicant to address that. There are two parcels of record on the property and the applicants filed a request to
modify the boundaries of those parcels, creating two wide lots with narrower frontages along First Street. The narrower
frontage, specifically on a corner lot is considered the front lot line and it is from there that the front yard is measured.
Therefore, the lot line adjustment ultimately creates the Lithia frontage of the property as the side lot line and the applicants
have argued there is no front yard requirement because Lithia Way is a side lot line. There is a memo from the Legal
Department concurring.
Black asked about something that had been said at an earlier hearing about the possibility of widening Lithia Way at a future
date to create a two-way street and the setback would allow for that widening at some future date. Molnar understands that is
more a longer range issue in terms of looking at the purpose of Lithia Way. At this point, the issue is with the lot line
adjustment. It switches the side lots lines to a ministerial action, making Lithia Way no longer the front of the property. The
only other more recent guiding document is the 1998 Downtown Plan that doesn’t indicate any intention to widen Lithia Way.
The City adopted a Transportation System Plan in the early 2000’s and the consultant looked at all the arterials and collectors
and identified any that might have capacity issues and any that would need widening. That document did not identify Lithia
Way. It is not say that through some downtown planning or visioning action there might not be an interest for re-visiting that
issue. If this action is approved, it would make it difficult to expand Lithia Way.
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Dawkins referred to Reeder’s memo and submitted that in the 1964 plan the group of 50 appointed by Mayor O’Neill did
indeed look at Lithia Way eventually becoming a two-way street to alleviate some of the traffic from the downtown area.
When you are looking at the intent of a 20 foot setback, it is for a higher good. At some future point in time we may want to
revisit making Lithia Way a two-way street. Within that spirit, Dawkins believes it gives the Commission room for
interpretation of the intent. Lithia Way is still an arterial street. A lot line adjustment to get around it does not change the
arterial street that should be protected.
Reeder said in this part of the code it clearly says “front yard.” In other parts of the code it says “every yard.” The plain
language cannot overcome the purpose and intent. You only look at the purpose and intent when the plain language isn’t clear.
It is not within the power of this Commission to make a determination that there is some higher good.
Stromberg believes there is an interpretation issue. Chapter 18.65.05 clearly states the purpose of the special setback applies to
arterials in general and to specific streets. The purpose is to afford better light, air and vision and also to protect arterial streets.
The criterion it uses for doing this is a 20 foot front yard setback. That instrument isn’t adequate to achieve the stated purpose
of the Section. He asserted this ordinance is in conflict or inconsistent. When this happens, the Planning Commission has the
right to make an interpretation. Stromberg believes we have the ability to interpret this ordinance in such a way that the arterial
street is protected by a 20 foot setback.
Molnar continued with his Staff Report discussing the Special Permitted Uses. The memo from Reeder gave the Commission
two options. The Staff Report and Reeder’s memo explain the options. The applicant has argued that regardless of how the
Planning Commission wishes to apply this standard, the proposal meets it in either case. They identified that approximately 55
percent of the total lot area is in a commercial special permitted use other than residential and the accessory uses that
accompany the commercial are special permitted uses such as the public plaza spaces adjacent to the commercial components
of the project as well as the surface parking spaces and the driveway aisle accessing those commercial parking spaces. Staff
agrees that the ground floor meets the requirement but there is a question whether or not the accessory use of other areas on the
project are for the sole use of the commercial or special permitted uses or if there is an overlapping use by the residential
component of the project. The driveway aisle connects to the City parking lot so there will be some cross-use. If the
Commission believes that the 50 percent requirement applies, it is unclear to Staff if the applicants have met the burden of
proof that the areas they have identified should solely be apportioned to the commercial aspect of the project. The Commission
has some discretion if they want to include all those areas in the 50 percent requirement.
Stromberg wondered about “uses.” Reeder said accessory uses to permitted uses are permitted uses. It is in C-1 Permitted
Use, 18.32.020. Stromberg said it does not say the following uses include accessory uses. It mentions them separately. Molnar
said the Staff Report includes a definition of an accessory use.
Molnar said the third issue relates to the applicability of the Design Standards. By virtue of the location of this project, all of
the City’s Design Standards apply. TThe standards are included in the packet. These are mandatory design standards and the
Commission’s charge is to find that each and every one of the Design Standards have been met or that the applicant has
requested an exception to a Design Standard to the Downtown. In the case of separation between buildings, that requires an
Administrative Variance.
Molnar said there was a concern about how the project complies with the Large Scale Development Standards. Staff concurs
with the applicant that the project is viewed as a series of buildings. The intent of the Large Scale Development Standards was
to look at the exposed bulk and volume of buildings above grade and to the use of underground parking and not potentially
penalize a proposal for using underground parking and then have it structurally connected to a building above.
With regard to building height, if the Commission decides the parapet is ornamental, it does not need to be included in the
height requirement. If it is an integral part of the roofing structure, it would need to comply. In discussions with Staff and
Historic Commission, the applicant felt having a raised parapet feature at the corner adds something to the design.
There have been questions regarding the legitimacy of the existing easement. Molnar deferred to Legal. They have concluded
the existing easement is adequate for the two parking lots to be connected. It looks like the easement is centered on the
boundary lines.
Molnar gave the Commissions some options on how to deliberate toward a decision. The application includes an
Administrative Variance that the buildings be separated by the height of the tallest building (40 feet). The separation goes at
the widest section, 75 feet down to 25 feet. The area encompassed in the public space is equal to or exceeds 40 feet, but it is
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not a continuous 40 feet. He suggested they start deliberating on that item. If the majority feels the burden of proof has not
been met for an Administrative Variance, there is not reason to move on with deliberations. Molnar suggested next it would be
advisable to tackle the interpretation of the mixed-use provision.
Molnar cautioned the Commissioners not to lose sight of the fact that this could easily be the largest project in the downtown
and there is a design process as to whether the City Standards have been met. Staff had raised issues regarding the bulk and
scale of the project. The applicants have made changes to the Commission’s initial concerns, but are those enough to clearly
find whether each one of those design standards have been clearly met?
Reeder reiterated the 20 foot setback does not apply because there is no front yard. It is not an applicable criterion. He
disagreed with Stromberg’s analysis. He doesn’t want the Commissioners going down the road of deciding on a 20 foot
setback. Reeder believes if this went to LUBA, LUBA would reject it.
PUBLIC HEARING
EVAN ARCHERD, 550 East Main Street,
stated this project is the result of input of hundreds of citizens. Their intent is to answer
questions that have been raised and any questions raised tonight. He believes they will show that far from being an end run,
the boundary line adjustment will put into place what was always the intent and in accordance all the ordinances and with the
Comprehensive Plan.
Building Separation
- They modified and increased the public space to 3,655 square feet between the buildings. They widened
the mouth of the project and have breezeways that create sheltered space as well as open space. Beyond that, there is no
precedent for separation of buildings in the downtown. He showed several examples. The intent in the downtown is to build
buildings lot line to lot line. The intention of the Large Scale Development is to provide light and air between larger buildings.
He believes they have solved this inherent conflict in the ordinance with a useful, beautiful space that meets the intent of
ordinances.
Commercial Use Space
– They provided a handout. All the space is commercial space, commercial access to parking or the
plaza between the two commercial buildings and the sidewalks mandated by the commercial use. They did not include the
residential or additional parking or some other public spaces. The end result is that they far exceed the required amount of
space to meet the 50 percent standard.
GEORGE KRAMER, 386 N. Laurel,
said he has been through this before in numerous public meetings. The project meets each
and every one of the Downtown Historic Design Standards. The Historic Commission has reviewed the project four times and
found by general consensus at their May meeting, no individual standards with which they took issue. The Staff Report agrees
in their Addendum. Downtowns are vibrant places. It is not their intent to freeze progress.
ALAN HARPER, 717 Murphy Road, Medford
, said he was asked to take a look at the code on how to interpret the ordinance.
What do we do with an ordinance that doesn’t seem to be working, specifically, the special setback? He agrees with Reeder
that the Commission can’t interpret the ordinance. In order to accomplish the goals, the Commission has been given certain
tools and the applicant has been given certain standards they have to live up to. It doesn’t appear the setback standard has been
applied uniformly. This is not the first building to come in on that side of Lithia Way.
KRAMER
talked about why it is a really good thing the 20 foot setback doesn’t apply. Everything we have learned in the 30 to
40 years since that setback was adopted, has required buildings to be put on the street line. He referenced an ODOT article
from November, 1999, an award winning document, “Main Street -When a Highway Runs through It.” It is all about zero
setbacks and reducing the width between buildings in order to create pedestrian friendly environments. It has been 20 years
since this setback was last modified. Every single planning document the City of Ashland has adopted has clearly indicated
that Lithia Way is to be a second Main Street, designed to Main Street standards. Less than two months ago, ODOT voiced
absolutely no interest in ever widening Lithia Way or ever turning Lithia Way into a two-way street except when running a
parade down Main Street. There is no design or transportation related reason to push these buildings back 20 feet and in fact,
doing so is counter to everything we have learned about creating a successful streetscape in more than 30 years since this was
first adopted.
Stromberg asked what will keep a condominium owner from parking in the commercial spaces. Archerd said the commercial
spaces will be designated commercial and the tenants will have designated spaces and will primarily park in the underground
parking. There will be an elevator to bring them up. If they wish to walk, they can go out the residential lobby to the street.
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Archerd said there is 47 percent glass in the buildings.
CRAIG STOCKWELL, GB ARCHITECTS, 1120 N. W. Couch Street, Portland, OR,
was available.
Dawkins said there is not one block in the downtown where there are not different building heights. There is nothing close to
two buildings that are as long as the Plaza. He doesn’t see any relief at all by recessing parts of the building, but he doesn’t see
any relief in the difference in heights. It appears very bulky.
KRAMER
responded by describing the various push and pull design of the buildings including a broken parapet and dropping
the end of building 1 as it enters the breezeway and balcony. Building 2 uses a broken parapet as well. He gave other design
examples, including the Ashland Springs Hotel. The buildings are long. They are within the size allotment for this building
classification. They have broken up the masses and the facades and included vertical rhythms as per the Design Standards.
They have incorporated a 25 to 50 foot rhythm.
JEROME WHITE, 253 Third Street,
said the standard says the buildings need to be “slightly” dissimilar. It is his recollection that
he and Kramer helped write the standard. The committee recognized the buildings would be built up to the height limit.
Dawkins is confused to see a flat line for the entire length of the project. Even though there is a slight difference in height, to
the eye, the buildings look the same height.
White acknowledged they won’t get the greater degree of break along the roofline. Kramer explained that Building 2 has more
vertical rhythm than Building 1 and Building 1 has more horizontal rhythm than Building 2. There is a very large separation
between buildings (wider than Lithia Way) creating an enormous sense of relief. Each building has its own distinct style.
LARRY KELLOGG, 415 Merrill Circle,
believes a project of this size and scope should insist the designer lay it out on the site and
see how it will look in the future. He showed overlaid photos and entered them in the record showing different vantage points.
LARRY MEDINGER, 115 Fork Street,
is a believer in underground parking. We’re using the underground parking aspect to make
it one building. It’s hard to build parking underground and move your cars around, but it is a wonderful investment and use of
space.
Stromberg asked if buildings have to be 40 feet high if they are three stories. Medinger said in residential buildings they
commit eleven feet per story, floor to floor.
ERIC NAVICKAS, 711 Faith,
feels this is in violation of the Big Box ordinance. It has been said that the Big Box is just about
bulk and scale, but in reading the original writing about the Big Box ordinance it states “any new building or contiguous groups
of buildings.” There are implications of a large scale development project, for example, traffic flow and parking. With regard
to being able to build something on top of something else, he believes the ordinance is referring to the passage of time; adding
something on. He had a diagram from Colin Swales showing the HVAC system in one place for both buildings. That should
clearly define it as one building and we should look at the entire square footage. He believes a precedent was set by the Bemis
project and it will probably stop this project too. There are many lots we need to be concerned about in the downtown,
especially the Wells Fargo lot that will probably develop soon. We need to encourage the subdividing of lots.
REGINA AYARS, 199 Hillcrest
, stated she is very concerned about the mass and height of Northlight. There are numerous
concerns that have been voiced about this project. To name a few: The capacity of existing streets to handle the traffic flow,
congestion around the Post Office, require 20 foot setback on Lithia Way, questionable solution of changing the frontage of the
parcels to First Street, architecture not being appropriate for the Historic District, violation of the Big Box ordinance, the
breezeway variance, the lack of dedicated public space, the cancer center tenant and required ceiling heights (she understood
they have pulled out of the project). Why does the second building have to have 17 foot ceilings, access to the project roadway
through the public parking and not provide a pedestrian walkway that may eventually be underground parking?
Ayres’ primary concern is the height of the two large structures facing Lithia Way. She does not want this primary traffic area
to become a tunnel as illustrated in Kellogg’s photos. A new affordable housing structure is proposed across the street so both
sides of the street will be 40 feet in height. She said even the view from Main Street will be compromised. Instead of seeing
the mountains, she’ll see the tops of the 40 foot structures. Tourists come because we are unique. We want to keep it that way.
She would like to see the developers required to reduce the height of the buildings and at the very least, one building.
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LYNN GALLAGHER, 386 B Street,
agreed with Ayars’ comments. On May 17, 2005, she submitted 65 signatures of those
opposing the approval of the project because of bulk and scale, appearance, design and materials of the two main buildings that
are inconsistent with downtown Ashland. The large buildings and the row houses are not compatible with the look and feel of
the Railroad District. A total of 108 new parking spaces for 90 plus commercial and residential units is wholly inadequate and
will aggravate the existing shortage of parking, especially during the Festival season. The project deliberately feeds its
commercial and residential into a predominantly residential neighborhood via First Street.
One of women she spoke with that participated in the charrette process. The priorities that came from the charrette included
open spaces, affordable housing, improving the existing problems with parking on B Street, and communal areas. These
priorities are being ignored and aggravated.
Gallagher asked the Commission not grant any Administrative Variances mostly because of the negative impacts on adjacent
properties.
RAMONA DUVALL, 865 Palmer Road,
said she agreed with the last two people who testified. She read a statement. She asked
the Commission to consider the historic architecture and the staggering of building heights. The applicants were asked to
stagger the building heights but we still seem to be dealing with the same issues. Why hasn’t a serious attempt been made to
stagger building heights? She gave traffic count numbers on surrounding streets and said there needed to be an in-depth study
of traffic. Northlight will be setting a standard and precedent for large buildings in the future.
TOM BRADLEY, 700 Terrace Street,
said it seems clear that obtaining unanimous community consent on this project is not even
remotely possible. It seems like conceiving a project that conforms to every applicable standard is nearly impossible. The
Administrative Variance is at issue. When he wants open space he goes up the side of a mountain. When he goes downtown it
is to be squeezed and to interact with people. He believes granting the Administrative Variance is the right and best thing to do
for Ashland.
STEVE NEELY, 386 B Street
, read from the National Historic Preservation Week brochure concerning the Ashland downtown. It
uses the word “charming” to describe Ashland. His guess is 95 percent of the residents of Ashland would object to this project.
The applicants are getting everything to conform to meet their needs. He strongly requests the applicants conduct a new traffic
assessment. He feels subterfuge was used to defeat the specifically stated purpose of the ordinance. There is a conflict and
inconsistencies in the ordinance.
RON ROTH, 6950 Old Highway 99 South,
said he worked in the downtown for 28 years and believes this is an incredible
opportunity for the City to get both affordable housing and parking. He would like to see this project approved. He’s had a lot
of conversations with a lot of people including Staff and the applicants, but never any with the Commissioners. He doesn’t
understand why we can’t have a conversation concerning higher densities, affordable housing and parking underground. He
would like to see housing for people who live downtown. He somewhat disagrees with people who say more housing in the
downtown means more traffic. He thinks there is an incredible infrastructure downtown. We just need more people to be
within walking distance of it. The process is on trial here and has been for a long time. A lot of people talk about it, but no one
does anything about it. He congratulated Staff for figuring out a way to take care of the setback rule. He is suggesting more
affordable units. They could work with the City to get more units that are smaller for the single people who work downtown.
He has a petition he submitted with 85 signatures of downtown merchants and citizens that support the Northlight project.
He’d like to see this hearing more like planning and less like a jury trial. With regard to the parking, he is talking about digging
out the surface parking and providing a City parking lot too.
Stromberg wondered how Roth could convince the developer to build smaller units when they could get $500,000 and up for a
condominium. Roth just thinks there are so many creative things that could happen. He would like to get the Ashland
Community Land Trust involved and have 50 units. It would need a zone change, but let’s start talking about this.
NEELY
clarified that he did not say “no one” was in favor of this project, but he hadn’t run across anyone that was.
Fields read comments from:
FRANCES LOPEZ, 249 B STREET,
was concerned with parking and traffic.
LARRY AMBROSE, 269 B STREET,
was concerned with parking, design and underground springs.
JACQUELINE AMBROSE, 269 B STREET,
was concerned with design, parking and size of the project.
MARY BARNHILL, 165 N. FIRST STREET,
opposed approval of the Variance with a negative impact on traffic, design and
parking.
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Dotterrer/Chapman m/s to extend the meeting to 11:00 p.m. Everyone approved.
BILL STREET, 180 Mead Street,
referred to handout submitted by Colin Swales. He addressed three reasons to deny this action.
Variance Criteria
– In order to meet the Variance, criteria A must be met. There is a demonstrable difficulty in meeting the
specific requirements of the Site Design Standards due to a unique or unusual aspect of the proposed use of a site. He has not
heard the applicant say he has difficulty in meeting those requirements. What is the unique aspect of the site? How can they
give them a Variance?
#6 – Reasons to deny
–Reference to the lot line adjustments circumventing the City policy to setbacks. He believes Reeder
contradicted Mike Franell, City Attorney. Referring to 18.72.100, Power to Amend Plans, Site Design and Use Standards,
Franell wrote, “Certainly the cited section gives the City authority to require greater setbacks than would otherwise be required.
This could be applied to the Northlight project.” He goes on to talk about discretionary development controls. We heard the
need for light and air and space and the possible future widening of Lithia Way. The Commission has the authority to use
discretion.
#7 – Mainly residential use in retail commercial zone
– Street read from the Staff Report, referring to retail commercial. Staff’s
comments state the overriding purpose of the district, and the standard is open to interpretation. Staff believes the standard
should be applied in such a way that carries out to the best of its ability the purpose of the district. Staff felt some of the project
area included in the applicant’s calculations is comprised of required parking and public space and could likely be used by the
residents of the projects and their guests and they are not convinced the total area encompassed by these uses should be
counted toward the standard. Street believes the Commission can interpret that rule and apply the multiple building standard.
#1 – Too Big – Excessive “bulk and scale.”
- Kellogg’s illustration showed the tremendous affect this project will have on the
downtown. He asked the Commission to consider the neighbors and the transition to their historic neighborhood. This
building should be on the other side of Lithia Way.
Street referred to the Big Box ordinance. The Staff Report did not refer to the fact that even if you don’t count the square
footage in the basement, if you consider the building as one building, it still exceeds the Big Box ordinance. He agreed with
Navickas’ comments regarding the mechanical equipment located in one building. If the Commission allows this pattern of
development, you’ll be contributing to the over development of Ashland and contribute to the price of inflation we are already
experiencing.
Street asked the Commission to deny this project so we can go back to the drawing board and we as a community try to
develop this property so it serves the interest of Ashlanders and creates the mix of affordable housing for people who can
afford housing.
Street submitted a list of design standards he does not believe were met. He reviewed those items.
Stromberg wondered how Street sees this property adhering faithfully to the Design Standards. Street said the buildings should
not be the same height. The sense of entry has not been clearly established. Reduce the bulk and scale. Some of the windows
look like they are horizontal rather than vertical. He would like to see windows similar to those in the downtown. There is a
blank wall in the pedestrian breezeway. One window is not enough. It does not encourage pedestrian participation. The roof
shapes of the row houses violate the standard. Will the pedestrian area encourage the kind of pedestrian climate we want. Is
there weather protection? There are pockets of public space in this development that mock the concept of public space and
mock the intent of the public space requirements?
DAVID FRENCH, Rogue Fly Shop, 165 Lithia Way
, stated it has been incredibly challenging finding retail space in Ashland. They
needed a reasonably sized commercial space and there are not many options in town. Ceiling heights are important. Clients
like to try out fly rods that can be ten feet long. They would be very interested in a building with higher ceilings.
Reeder suggested leaving the public hearing open.
Bill Street requested the record be left open for seven days.
Alan Harper asked at the very least the record be left open for seven days, then closed so we are done with new evidence and
the applicant can proceed with their rebuttal. He suggested they leave the record open for written comment.
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Dotterrer clarified that the written record will stay open for seven more days, then it closes, then they will come back in two
weeks and begin with rebuttal.
It was decided anyone could submit new information and the applicant can respond to any additional evidence submitted. The
continued meeting will occur on September 27, 2005 at 7:00 p.m. at the Council Chambers.
PLANNING ACTION: #2005-01476
SUBJECT PROPERTY: 290 SKYCREST DRIVE
OWNER/APPLICANT: BRIAN & DIANE SMITH
DESCRIPTION: REQUEST FOR A LAND PARTITION TO DIVIDE ONE EXISTING PARCEL INTO TWO PARCELS INCLUDING ONE FLAG
LOT FOR THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 290 SKYCREST DR. THE APPLICATION INCLUDES A PROPOSAL TO VACATE THE EXISTING
PUBLIC ALLEY RIGHT-OF-WAY TO THE NORTH OF THE PROPERTY. A VARIANCE IS REQUESTED TO MINIMUM LOT WIDTH
REQUIREMENT – 100 FEET OF LOT WIDTH IS REQUIRED AND THE PROPOSED LOTS ARE IRREGULARLY SHAPE WITH PORTIONS
REDUCED TO 50 FEET IN WIDTH. A PHYSICAL CONSTRAINTS REVIEW PERMIT IS REQUESTED TO CREATE A PARCEL WITH SLOPES
25% AND GREATER AND REMOVE THREE BLACK OAK TREES GREATER THAN 12 INCHES DIAMETER AT BREAST HEIGHT IN HILLSIDE
LANDS.
This action has been postponed.
ADJOURNMENT – The meeting was adjourned at 11:00 p.m.
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