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ASHLAND PLANNING COMMISSION
SPECIAL HEARING
February 24, 1982
I. CALL TO ORDER: 7:30 PM, Civic Center, 1175 E. Main St.
II. TYPE I PLANNING ACTIONS:
1. PA #82 -05, Site Review to build a flower shop on the parking lot adjacent to
Orchard Lane Mall. Applicant: Kirk B. David.
2. PA #82 -06, Minor Land Partition at 779 Oak St. to divide the lot into two
parcels. Applicant: Howard Tolliver.
3. PA #82 -08, amendment of a Site Review to allow the construction of a new
structure at 265 Fourth St. in lieu of the relocation of the Depot building.
Applicant: Erik Wallbank.
III. PUBLIC HEARINGS:
1. Revisions to Comprehensive Plan Map, outside the City limits, within the
Urban Growth Boundary and Ashland /Jackson Co. UGB Agreement. (To be ad-
journed to 3 -4 -82)
2. Revisions to the Zoning and Comprehensive Plan Maps within the City limits:
A Area added to Urban Growth Boundary
B Area deleted from Urban Growth Boundary
C Retail Commercial to Employment
D Urban High to Multi- Family
E Light Industrial to Employment
F Heavy Commercial to Employment
G Agriculture to Single Family Reserve
H Rural Residential to Single Family Reserve
I Agriculture to Single Family
J Heavy Industry to Employment
K Manufacturing to Commercial
L Manufacturing to Employment
M Commercial to Employment
N Heavy Industrial to Employment
IV. STAFF BUSINESS:
V. ADJOURNMENT
O Urban High to Multi Family
P Suburban Residential to Townhouse Residential
Q Urban Low to Townhouse
R Commercial to Employment
S Light Industrial to Employment
T Rural Residential to Employment
U Light Industrial to Industrial Reserve
V Retail Commercial to Employment
W Urban High to Multi- Family
X Rural Residential to Woodland Reserve
Y Forest to Woodland Reserve
CALL TO ORDER
TYPE I
APPROVALS
PUBLIC HEARING
REVISIONS TO
COMP PLAN
OUTSIDE
CITY LIMITS
MINUTES
ASHLAND PLANNING COMMISSION
SPECIAL HEARING
February 24, 1982
The meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m. by Chairman Jeff Barnes
in the Civic Center. Members present were John Billings, Ethel Hansen,
Gene Morris, Don Greene, Tom Owens, and Jackie Reid. Planning Director
John Fregonese and Associate Planner Steve Jannusch were also present.
1. Planning Action #82 -05, a request for a Site Review to build a
flower shop on the parking lot adjacent to Orchard Lane Mall; applicant:
Kirk B. David. Fregonese informed the Commission that this request had
been called up and would be reviewed at the Planning Commission
meeting of April 14.
2. Planning Action #82 -06, a request for a minor land partition at
779 Oak St. to divide the lot into two parcels; applicant: Howard
Tolliver. Morris was curious as to where the bank, which drops to
the flood plain, was located. Fregonese informed him that the drive
has a gentle drop, and he also noted that there were major discrepancies
with the official flood plain map. He indicated the Planning Dept.
was in contact with the federal government in order to determine the
actual location of the flood plain. He did note that the proposed
units were located clearly out of the flood plain. The action stands
approved.
3. Planning Action #82 -08, a request for an amendment of a Site Review
to allow the construction of a new structure at 265 Fourth St. in lieu
of the relocation of the depot building; applicant: Erik Wallbank.
Morris asked about the nature of the rest of the lot. Fregonese in-
formed him that the applicant would be attempting to purchase the depot
building and move it to the proposed site. He stated it would require a
future site review and Historic Commission review as well. Greene asked
whether or not the new structure would look like the depot which was
originally intended for this site. Fregonese stated the building would
basically be a board and batt design with an aluminum roof. He felt
this was in keeping with the architecture of the surrounding district.
The project received approval.
This item, which covered revisions to the Comp Plan outside the City
limits,would not be discussed at this time but instead would be covered
at the larch 4, 1982, meeting when the Jackson County Planning Com-
mission would also be present.
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PUBLIC HEARING
REVISIONS TO
COMP PLAN
WITHIN
CITY LIMITS
Area C
Retail
Commercial to
Employment
Area D
Urban High to
Multi- Family
Barnes outlined the procedures which would be followed for the hearing.
Since items A and B on the agenda pertained to those areas added and
deleted from the Urban Growth Boundary and would be discussed at the
Planning Commission meeting on March, 4, 1982, those two items were
skipped.
1. Harry Kieval, a member of the audience, requested a clarification
of the terms expressed in the ad in the Tidings, which were those to
be discussed this evening. Fregonese then read the definitions from
the draft of the Comp Plan.
2. There was no public testimony on area C.
1. Al Willstatter, 128 Central, was concerned with the reasons behind
the changes. He felt it was a sad mistake to eliminate the density
potential of R -3 and change it to R -2. He felt there were more units
needed in this area to provide shorter walking distances to town for
the elderly. He noted that the R -3 zone in this district provided a
buffer area for the manufacturing zones adjacent to it. Barnes replied
that the rationale in providing a zone of the R -3 density revolved around
the expected mass urbanization anticipated during the drafting of the
original ordinance. In fact, this mass urbanization did not happen.
Barnes also noted that projects presently being submitted in the R -3 zone
were being designed to R -2 densities anyway. Fregonese concurred with
this and stated that three -story structures would be necessary to
meet R -3 density, and multi -story units just don't sell here. Wil-
statter stated that it should be incumbent on the individual developer
to determine his solutions for these problems, and a blanket change
would not be good. He felt these projects should be looked at on an
individual basis.
2. Irma Laible, 145 Central, after being shown the area being dis-
cussed by Fregonese, informed the Commission that the neighbors want
their area to remain as is. She questioned whether this change will alter
the value of her property. Fregonese answered that it probably would not,
if she lived in a single- family residence.
3. Duane Taylor, 450 Ashland, asked if all the R -3 was being taken
out. Fregonese stated yes. Taylor stated he felt each project should
be considered separately. He asked whether the Plan had been adopted
by the City, and Fregonese informed him that it had. Taylor wanted
the Commission to consider the time and money spent discussing this
issue in the past. Some years ago, when this same issue arose, he
could see no real reason for down zoning this area and still doesn't.
He stated he would appreciate a written response to his letter.
4. Ron Kelso, local realtor, wondered whether we could discuss the
entire R -3 issue, which included two other sections on the map posted
in the Tidings. Barnes replied okay. The other sections were W and
the 0 zone. That meant that we would be discussing areas D, W and 0.
Fregonese identified these areas on the map.
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5. Roger Vait, 879 Clay, wanted to know whose idea the rezoning was.
Barnes informed him that this was a general concensus of those in-
volved in the planning process. Vait explained that he didn't like the
idea, felt there was no justification for the change, and felt the
Planning Commission shouldn't be telling people that their property
values wouldn't be changing.
6. Kelso read a letter from a client he represents who lives at
404 Bridge St. The client felt that properties would be devalued and
that the number of potential units would affect the sale price. He
stated that there was really no way that the City could adjust the tax
structure for these people when the zone was changed. He then addressed
the zone change relevant to a piece of property which he owned at 416
Bridge St. He indicated he would stand to lose 50% on the property value,
which, incidentally, is across the street from a 54 -unit motel. He felt
that being more selective about the location of R -3 districts would save
some areas from over development.
7. Bill Wright, 595 Taylor, spoke against the elimination of the
R -3 district. He stated he has lived in Ashland for over 40 years and
has seen many changes, but this proposed zone change is one to which
he strongly objects. He stated he was .a retired real estate appraiser.
He then noted that he owns property that presently would support 15
units. If it were changed to R -2, only 6 units would be allowed on the
parcel. This would create a devaluation of from $12- 15,000. He asked
whether the City was planning on paying him for the devaluation.
Fregonese replied no. Wright then asked if anyone on the Planning
Commission even owned any R -3 land, and the answer was that none of
them did.
8. Harry Kieval, 740 Park, spoke in favor of the change. He approved
of the change because he felt it would reduce the amount of traffic
running up and down Park St.
9. Myrtle Bunnell, 308 W. Hersey, wanted clarification of the difference
between R -2 and R -3. She spoke in favor of the R -3.
10. Bob Williamson, 311 N. Mountain, questioned why the change was even
being proposed. Fregonese stated that some of the changes were due to
LCDC requirements, while others were merely updates. Fregonese stated
that it was his belief and that of the Planning Commission that, by
reducing the allowable densities, many of the existing neighborhoods
would be protected. Williamson replied that this was basically unfair,
because of those individuals who had purchased property with the under-
standing of the greater densities which were allowed under R -3. He
felt that to reduce the densities would unfairly penalize these people.
11. Carl Crafton, 1729 Siskiyou Blvd., also a realtor, was in favor of
retaining the R -3 zone. He represented property owners who were cur-
rently involved in a sale which involved some R -3 property. He felt
this proposed change occurring during this sale was unfair and would
affect the transaction negatively.
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Area E
Light
Industrial
to Employment
12. Jerry Shaller, 259 N. Laurel, stated he was in favor of the
down zoning, although he would end up losing the potential for another
unit on his property, but this loss would be outweighed by the reten-
tion of his property and neighborhood as it was.
13. Edwin Chapman, 270 N. Laurel, was opposed
to the down zoning. He asked whether Billings still owned property at
Laurel and Van Ness and Billings replied that he did. Chapman said
that Billings should have stated so earlier. He then stated that he
felt R -3 was an absolute necessity within the City of Ashland. He
further stated he has spent $15,000 developing lots which will be
changed, and this change would create a hardship for him. He stated
that the neighborhood in which he lived was currently zoned R -3, and
it had been previously zoned R -2, and he would have no problem with
the change there. He stated that all planning was unfair, but the nature
of this planning was the most unfair of all. In response to a previous
comment made by a concerned citizen, he stated that if the City should
pay for down zoning, those people who stand to gain from the up- zoning
should be forced to pay for the profits gained.
14. Arnold Weeks, who owned property at 166 Laurel and 195 Van Ness,
spoke in favor of retaining the R -3 zone.
15. W.R. Welch, 132 Susan Lane, spoke in favor of retaining the R -3 zone.
1. This area encompasses Hersey and Water Sts. Fregonese pointed out
this area on the map, and explained the differences between the Light
Industrial and Employment districts. He noted that the Employment
district allows light industrial uses as well as some commercial uses.
It is, therefore, a more flexible zoning jurisdiction.
2. There was no public comment on this area.
Area F 1. Fregonese noted there was a mistake made on the map for the change
Heavy in this area. It would not be Heavy Commercial to Employment, which was
Commercial to indicated in the paper; it would be Heavy Commercial to Single Family.
Employment
2. Harry Skerry, attorney for Albert Wolber, spoke for his client.
Skerry noted that, for this area to be zoned single family, it would be
an improper utilization of the property, after considering the employment
and commercial zones for the parcel. He felt the parcel would be more
appropriately considered under the R -2 jurisdiction, in that it would be
compatible with the condominiums which abut it. Fregonese concurred with
Skerry's conclusions, and noted it would be a natural area for apartment
use. Barnes pointed out it might be a natural area for a neighborhood
store.
3. Daniel Liebowitz, 1470 Pinecrest Terrace, felt the R -2 designation
would not be appropriate, and would result in clumping the area into a
hodge -podge of zones. He noted the corner was contiguous to an R -1 -5P
property, and this would be a more logical use of the area.
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Area G
Agriculture to
Single-Family
reserve
Area H
Rural
Residential to
Single Family
'reserve
Area I
Agriculture to
Single Family
Area J
Light
Industrial
to
Employment
Area K
Manufacturing
to Commercial
Area L
Manufacturing
to Employment
4. Greene questioned whether this change would have any effect on the
condominium properties adjacent, and Fregonese noted that it would.
1. These properties were located within the North Mountain /Nevada St.
area, which is primarily Agricultural and Rural Residential, now
being designated as Single- Family Reserve and Single- Family.
Fregonese noted that the reasons for these changes were that LCDC required
that no Rural Residential properties be located inside the City limits.
The Residential Reserve indicates that the area will be used in the
future for Single Family Residential.
2. Johnny Hodges, 192 N. Mountain, wanted to know why the top of
Mountain, just below the railroad tracks, was being excluded from this
area. Fregonese pointed out that it is already Single Family Residential
in this area, and therefore is not changing. Hodges then wanted to know
what Single Family Residential meant in terms of minimum lot size.
Fregonese noted it would be 5000 sq. ft. minimum.
3. Morris asked Hodges whether or not he had tried in the past to
build on this property and whether he had received negative responses from
the City on this. Hodges indicated that he had.
4. Barnes noted that since this area was presently zoned for this use,
Hodges could build a PUD there.
5. Morris wanted to know what the frontage requirements were in an
R -1 -5 zone, and he was told it would be 50 ft.
6. Hodges noted that his attempts to develop this area occurred roughly
10 years ago. The Commission encouraged him to submit plans for develop-
ment of this area at this point if he so chose.
1. This would be a change from Light Industrial to Employment.
2. Liebowitz raised some questions about this change. After a clarifi-
cation by Fregonese as to the nature of the change, Liebowitz indicated
he was in favor of it. Fregonese stated that any changes that would
occur in this area, or, for that matter, in any area, that individuals
affected by the change would be notified.
3. Morris wanted to know why Oak St. Tank and Steel and Parsons Pine
were being changed to Employment. Fregonese pointed out that this was
an error and the map would be updated.
Area K will remain Commercial.
Area L will be Multiple Family and not Manufacturing to Employment.
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Area M
Commercial to
Employment
Area N This area is Heavy Commercial_ to Employment, also on A St. There were
Heavy no public comments on this change.
Industrial
to Employment
Area 0 1. Jerry Walker, 115 California St., raised considerable objections
Urban High to about why he had not been allowed to speak. His property was surrounded
Multi- Family by apartments, and he had purchased his proeprty with the intention of
developing it later. He stated he was definitely in favor of keeping
the R -3 designation.
Area P
Suburban
Residential
to Townhouse
Residential
This change is on the south side of A St. There were no public comments
on this change.
2. Dick Kirkpatrick, Century 21 real estate, represented a client who
lived at 2225 Siskiyou Blvd. in opposing the change.
3. Hamid Ghavam spoke against the change.
4. Mike Morse had some questions about property he owned on Glenn St.
He wanted a clarification as to whether the definition of the R -2 designa-
tion would be changed. Fregonese pointed out that R -2 would remain the
same. Morse noted that there were obviously some properties in town
which lend themselves to R -3, and he was opposed to the blanket change.
He felt that selective changes were more appropriate.
5. The audience, in one voice, raised the question of the difference
between R -2 and R -3. Barnes explained the differences. The question
was also raised about agricultural uses within the City. Fregonese
pointed out that livestock is not allowed in any areas unless there is
over 1 acre of property. Other agricultural uses were permitted anywhere,
but there could be no specific zone designated as agricultural within
the City limits.
1. This change was being proposed for the North Clay St. area.
2. Fregonese read the definition from the Comp Plan.
3. Gene Wright, 120 Clay St., was against this rezoning because of his
concerns for the retention of this area as prime farm property. He
felt the change was ridiculous. Fregonese explained the reason for
considering this area as Townhouse Residential, specifically the require-
ments LCDC had imposed on the Comp Plan. He indicated there was a
definite need for medium density housing in the City, and this area was
a logical place to provide for it. Wright felt it would be a "rape of
the land." He felt the land deserves to be kept in farming.
4. John Conway, 140 Clay, asked whether this was a prelude for
annexation, which would increase his cost of living. Fregonese stated
that annexation would only occur upon request of property owners.
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Area Q
Urban Low to
Townhouse
5. Doug McPhee, who is buying 140 Clay St. from Conway, stated that
its location and distance from town was the very reason he was buying
the property.
6. Ross Johnston, 301 Clay St., which is actually outside the City
limits, stated he thought the property should be left as is as the street
is narrow and in poor shape, and the City is too beautiful to ruin by
increased housing there.
7. Jack Center commented on his property at 1932 Highway 66. He
stated he wanted the property kept in Heavy Commercial in lieu of the
change to the Employment zone.
This area crosses Clay St. to the south of Area P. There was no
comment on this area.
Area R This area is located behind the Oak Tree restaurant and the Knights Inn
Commercial motel and adjacent to Ashland Hills. There was no comment on this
to Employment change.
Area S
Light
Industrial to
Employment
Area T
Rural
Residential
to Employment
1. This area was along Clover Lane which is under consideration to be
changed from Light Industrial to Employment.
2. David Maltby, 615 Clover Lane, stated he was not sure if his
property was included in this area, and would appreciate further informa-
tion regarding this. Fregonese stated it would be included in this area
and it would give more uses to his property. He again explained the new
Employment district.
1. This is the area between E. Main and the Airport.
2. Curt Weaver, 333 Ardmore, Medford, representing a property owner
who owns two tax lots in this area, stated his client was in favor of
this change.
Area U 1. Fregonese noted a change that should be reflected on the map.
Light He suggested the residential lands should be shown along Highway 99 and
Industrial to not along Interstate 5, and the railroad tracks should serve as the
Industrial dividing line.
reserve
2. Ron Grimes, 820 Crater Lake Ave., Medford, spoke for his clients,
Messrs. Pedrojetti and Winan. He noted that their property along
Clover Lane and Hwy. 66 is proposed to be split, as indicated on the map.
He requested that all of their land be considered as commercial,
as this split would complicate their planning and future goals.
Fregonese indicated that this request should pose no problems.
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Area V
Retail
Commercial to
Employment
Area W
Urban High to
Multi- Family
Area X
Rural
Residential
to Woodland
Preserve
Area Y
Forest to
Woodland
Preserve
This area is on south Siskiyou Blvd., directly to the south of
Jacqueline St. There was no public comment on this item.
There was no public comment on this area, which is adjacent to Area V
to the west and south.
1. These properties are adjacent to Granite St. and above Strawberry
Lane. Fregonese explained the changes from Rural Residential and Forest
to Woodland Preserve, and read the explanations directly from the
Comp Plan.
2. Mark Cooper, 1801 Siskiyou Blvd., commented
on his property which is included in the Woodland Preserve area. He was
concerned that this would have an impact on his development in this area.
Fregonese indicated on the map where this was located. He also pointed
out that this does not mean he cannot develop, only that the woodland
character of the area needs to be preserved. He further stated that
Woodland Reserve is the same as the 2.5 acre minimum of the Rural Resi-
dential designation, only that it has slope density reductions imposed
in it.
3. Marilyn Briggs, 590 Glenview, stated the Woodland Reserve section
cuts through her property. She wondered how much protection this would
provide in view of the Lithia Homes project. Fregonese pointed out that
the building sites were still zoned half acre. Briggs then
asked for a clarification of where exactly the Woodland Preserve area
was located within the Lithia Homes area. Fregonese pointed out that
Woodland Preserve is included in the 11 acres Cooper owns which are not
buildable. Briggs stated she felt the lines were inconsistent. Fregonese
stated they follow the topography, and they were determined by the air
photos and topographic maps. He then reiterated that Woodland Reserve
doesn't prevent development, but it just restricts the density.
4. Lyle Stewart, planner, 45 Hawthorne, Medford, raised additional
questions about the placement of the Woodland Preserve boundary lines.
Barnes also asked for a clarification of this. Fregonese pointed out
that these lines were established along tax lot lines where topography
allowed, but we may want to readjust these lines in the summer when the
topographic maps are available for this area.
5. Carl Oates, 351 Granite St., stated the Woodland Preserve lines
were in some cases 500 -1000 ft. from Granite St. This does not seem to
follow a 30% slope designated for this jurisdiction, which in actuality
occurs closer to Granite St. Fregonese indicated there were ravines in
this area, and these lines were followed along tax lot lines where
possible.
6. Barnes stated there were saddle areas to be developed within the
area Oates questioned. Oates still maintained that the line was too far
from Granite St.
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7. Fregonese stated that because the definition of Woodland Preserve
may be confusing, it could be changed to Scenic Resource or something
more appropriate for the steepness of the terrain.
8. Marilyn Marthoski, 514 Granite St., spoke in favor of the changes.
She felt the property there had been rezoned incorrectly, since when
Cooper bought his property it had been zoned 4.5 -acre minimum lot size.
Fregonese pointed out that Marthoski is zoned presently at half -acre
minimum.
9. Dick Stark, 837 E. Main, Medford, spoke representing the Harshmans.
He expressed concern about his clients property relative to the Woodland
Preserve designation. He questioned whether this land would be considered
under future extension of City services. Fregonese pointed out that
this area was a lower priority as far as the service extensions were
concerned. He also noted that the change in the designation from Rural
Residential 2.5 acres to Woodland Preserve meant only that this property
would be subject to the new Physical Constraints Ordinance currently
proposed and under consideration by the Planning Commission.
10. Ron Kelso then spoke representing the Molner family. He requested
that their property is currently zoned .5 acre, and they did not want
to be included in the Woodland Preserve district.
11. Ron Skog, Strawberry Lane, indicated that during neighborhood
meetings the Molners requested that their property be removed from
Woodland Preserve. Fregonese noted that it was an error on the map and
this property would be maintained at .5 acre minimum.
12. Oates requested information regarding the findings of the Erosion
Committee. Barnes pointed out that this would be discussed at the
Planning Commission hearing on March 10.
13. Wilstatter reiterated his opinion that it would be a disservice
to eliminate the R -3 designation completely.
The public hearing was then closed.
Barnes stated the discussion would be continued until the next meeting.
ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 10 p.m.
John Fregonese, Executive Secretary
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