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City of Ashland
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MINUTES
February 24, 1997
A TIENDANCE:
Present:
Al Alsing, Bob Bennett, Teri Coppedge, JoAnne Eggers, La~rie MacGraw,
Director Ken Mickelsen.
Absent:
None
I. CALL TO ORDER
Chair Coppedge called the meeting to order at 6:30 p.m. at the
Senior Building at Hunter Park.
II. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA
Director Mickelsen reported that the Ashland Gun Club had brought some information to
the department regarding completing work on the training facility on the site. Chair
Coppedge placed the item under New Business.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Re2Ular Meeting - Januarv 28. 1997
Commissioner Eggers recommended several corrections to the minutes of the Regular
Meeting of January 28, 1997: on page 1, last sentence, that the wording be changed
from "Commission's endorsement to speak on their behalf when contacting people about
grant opportunities" to "Commission's endorsement to contact people about grant
opportunities"; on page 2, last sentence, the word "development" should be changed to
"develop"; on page 4, mid-page, in discussion of utilizing a landscape architect related
to flood damage, that it should be sPecifIcally noted that the Calle Guanajuato area was
being discussed, not the entire area under the Commission's jurisdiction; also on page 4
regarding her preference that the Commission go out for a separate RFP for a landscape
architect, that, included as part of her reasoning for having the opportunity to select a:
local fIrm would be its accessibility to the community and familiarity with the project
area; on 'page 5, within Commissioner Alsing's motion related to the landscape architect,
the words "in Lithia Park" should be changed to "on Calle Guanajuato"; and, lastly, at
the bottom of page 5, concerning the appointnient of Commissioner Alsing and Director
Mickelsen as Commission representatives to the City's committee to review ~FPs to
select a consulting fIrm, that the phrase "with the other Commissioners' approval"
should be deleted.
In discussing the corrections, Commissioner MacGraw indicated that she felt that the
phrase was appropriate because no one objected to the appointment. Commissioner
Eggers said she did not believe at the time that the item was up for discussion but that
the Chair had made the appointment and did not need the other Commissioners' ,
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approval. Chair Coppedge indicated that the Chair did have the authority to appoint but
that such appointments were routinely made by consensus approval among
Commissioners. However, she said that it was also her recollection that she did just ask
Commissioner Alsing if he would be willing to serve and that she did not ask for
comment from other Commissioners. By consensus, Commissioners agreed to have the
phrase deleted.
Commissioner Bennett made a motion to appr-ove the minutes as corrected.
Commissioner Alsing seconded.
The vote was: 5 yes - 0 no
B. Soecial Meetin~ - Februarv 3. 1997
Commissioner Alsing made a motion to approve the minutes of the February 3, 1997
Special Meeting as written. Commissioner Eggers seconded.
The vote was: 5 yes - 0 no
IV. REVIEW OF FINANCES
A. Aporoval of orevious month's disbursements
Commissioner MacGraw . made a motion to approve the previous month's disbursements
as indicated by checks #15394 through #15704 in the amount of $641,309.65.
Commissioner Eggers seconded.
The vote was: 5 yes - 0 no
B. Aporoval of December 31. 1996 Ouarterlv Financial Statement .
.. Commissioner MacGraw made a motion to approve the December 31, 1996 Quarterly
Financial Statement as presented. Commissioner Alsing seconded.
The vote was: 4 yes - 1 abstain (Eggers)
Commissioner Eggers indicated that she chose to abstain as she was not serving on the
Commission at that time.
As the Public Participation portion of the agenda had been advertised to begin at 7:00 p.m.,
Chair Coppedge chose to proceed with other portions of the agenda prior to addressing the items
specifIcally looking for public input.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
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None
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Aooroval to advertise for bids - tennis court resurfacing
Director Mickelsen indicated that staff was requesting authorization to advertise for bids
for resurfacing the tennis courts at Hunter, Lithia, and Helman School. The project has
been budgeted for this year and should be completed by mid-June.
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Aporoval to advertise - continued
MOTION
Commissioner Alsing made a motion authorizing advertising for bids. Commissioner
MacGraw seconded.
The vote was: 5 yes - 0 no
B. Aporoval to advertise for bids - maintenance equioment
Director Mickelsen indicated that the specifIed equipment budgeted for this year is an
aerator, a 4-wheel utility vehicle which would be used by the Forestry staff, and a
seeder. He said that the dollar amount involved may not require the bidding process on
all items, but that staff would like authorization to advertise for bids on those items
which may be high enough to require bidding.
MOTION Commissioner MacGraw made a motion authorizing advertising for bids. Commissioner
Eggers seconded.
The vote was: 5 yes - 0 no
C. Recommendation for ap,pointment to Ashland Parks Foundation Board
Commissioner Alsing indicated that Celia Meese's term was expiring on the Ashland
~ Parks Foundation Board. He also indicated that the Foundation's hi-laws stipulated that
. ~,~ _ an individual could serve a second teI'!!!J In a recent meeting, the Foundation Board
,~ chose to recouunend to tile CommISsion that it appoint Ms. Meese to a ~ond term.
MOTION Commissioner Alsing so moved. Commissioner Bennett seconded.
The vote was: 5 yes - 0 no
D. Pro,posal bv Ashland Gun Club
Commissioners briefly reviewed a report submitted by the Ashland Glin Club for
completing improvements to the leased site. As it was the fIrst opportunity
Commissioners had had to see report, consensus was to table the item and to place it on
the agenda for the next Regular Meeting.
At 7:00 p.m., Chair Coppedge chose to postpone the remaining items under New Business to
later in the meeting and to address the Public Participation portion of the agenda.
V. PUBLIC PARTICIPATIO~
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A. Public in,put on Lithia Park flood restoration.
Director Mickelsen presented a few slides related to the current status of the flood
damage to Lithia Park on the east side of Ashland Creek, particularly the east side trail
system. Following the showing of the slides, Chair Coppedge indicated that the
Commission was seeking input from the community as to what it would like to have
happen regarding re-establishing the east side trail within the park.
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Public Participation - Flood Restoration - continued
In response to a question from Commissioner Eggers, Donn Todt, Park Horticulturist,
said that his best guess is that the red layer of soil about ~ee feet down is fIll brought
in after the 1974 flood.
Tom Foster 047 Nutley). Mr. Foster said that he felt it was important to re-establish at
least a portion of the east side trail system for joggers, hikers, and those people who
wanted to access the more natural area of the park. He said that he felt that some of the
foot bridges should be replaced so as to create a multiplicity of routes through the park.
He encouraged the Commission to contact community service organizations about
funding rebuilding of the foot bridges. He also encouraged the Commission to
coordinate another volunteer weekend.
Jim Moore 0217 Park). Mr. Moore recommended that when approaching
reconstruction that the Commission take advantage of what the natural forces have done.
Referring to the last City Council meeting in which the Council restated its commitment
to the Valdez principles, he recommended that the Commission commit itself to work
with the environment and take advantage of what Ashland Creek has done rather than
put it back to the way it was. He said that if we just put it back the way it was before,
we will just have the same problem "because the creek doesn't like the way it was
before. "
Steve Koskella (Scenic Drive) said that he kind of likes what the creek has done; its
invited a little wildness into the landscape of the upper park. Saying he aesthetically
enjoys this wilderness look, he hoped that some of those features could be retained and
that the Commission only put back what needs to be put back.
Laurence Olsen (2365 Luoine) said that he felt the Commission should look at the
advantages of what the creek did by opening up the channels so "things won't get so
screwed up the next time." Should analyze where the problems were, get all the best
input you can, total resource analysis, and take time before deciding what to do. Don't
try to correct everything. Not always what we would like to have done but what can be
done.
Nola Katooothis (491 Lori Lane) said her primary question was about money and the
bond issue which citizens were being asked to vote on. She said she would like to see
restoration, but wanted "to know how much money was needed and where it was going to
come from. :.,'
In response to a request by the Chair, Director Mickelsen responded that it was his
understanding that at the time the Council had had to write the ballot measure, an
extremely rough estimate was that 2.6 million dollars would be needed to cover the cost
of repairing damage related to the flood throughout the city. He said that his
understanding was also that now that the various departments throughout the city had
had the time to more thoroughly review the damage, that the actual cost would be much
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Public Particioation - Flood Restoration - continued
less and that the City would only sell bonds in the amount needed to cover the real cost
of repair. Councillor Carole Wheeldon indicated that that was also her understanding
and that she was going to encourage the Council to review all matters related to the
bond measure at the upcoming Council meeting. She encouraged all those present who
were interested to attend or view that Council meeting.
Michael O'Brien 007 Fork). Mr. O'Brien said that fIrst and foremost he believed that
it needs to be remembered that we are talking about a park which people will be using
and that the health and safety of those people needs to be considered when deciding what
will be done. He said that living just above the park he can observe people using the
area now and he feels some concern about the stability of some places.
Jim Youn2 (Talent). Mr. Young said that he was present as a representative from the
Lithia Arts Guild which was very interested in restoration, particularly on Calle
Guanajuato. In general he stated that he was supportive of diversity in use and design.
He felt it would be important to use the community's interest and understanding of
keeping diversity in a riparian area as it flows through an urban area.
Mike Uthoff (633 Roca) indicated that the sooner we learn that we are "not in charge",
the better off we will be. He said that he believed.repetitively recreating "what was
before" after each flood has proved an .obvious. mistake. He recommended a minimum
of structural fixing and mling. Likes it the way it is now.
Llovd (Clav Street), Lloyd, a fIfty-year resident of Ashland, said that he and his family
have used the park a lot over the years. He said he didn't know exactly how it should
be done or how to fund it but please "do it." He s~id that he felt it was very important
to the people of Ashland and its many visitors to have the park back in shape.
Somehow, weneed to get a trail back on the east side. As it is now, you can't walk the
entire length of the park without going into the street. Would like to see a complete trail
on the west side of the creek as well!
Lola Brosbe 098 N. Wi2htman). Ms. Brosbe inquired as to how quickly the
. playground area would be repaired, and, whether or not the food tax monies could be
used to help pay for the flood damage.
Chair Coppedge responded that, as approved by the voters, the Prepared Food and
Beverage Tax can only' be used for land acquisition, not for construction or maintenance.
Director Mickelsen said that the playground will be repaired within about three weeks.
Right now the department is waiting on the specially prepared sand which is used for
safety purposes under the equipment. He also took the opportunity to let the audience
know that he anticipates that the area of the park from the Bandshell to the plaza should
be completely restored by early summer. It is the upper portion of the park which will
require more study, time, and policy decisions prior to taking action.
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Public Participation - Flood Restoration - continued
Cate Hartzell (881 E. Main) encouraged the Commission to take into consideration as
much as possible the cause and effect nature of what happened and why; to take the
opportunity to understand what happened all along Ashland. Creek from the watershed
down. Prior to making decisions about whether to fIll or not to fIll to look at the overall
picture of what would happen next time. She said that she hoped we would take this
event as an opportunity to learn and try something different. As to re-establishing
jogging and hiking trails, she said that she hoped that a process would be used to ask
people what they "really need" so that a plan could be made which would better fIt
people needs with a more natural stream course.
Phil Miller (Laurel St.) urged the Commission to act conservatively in the upper portion
of the park. He. said that he had fIrst anticipated being depressed when he went to the
upper park (ollowing the flood, but that his reaction was entirely different. He enjoyed
the "wilder" look of the park; more like a river than a controlled stream. He suggested
that the Commission put its money between the Bandshell and the plaza and focus on
"wilderness" planning for the upper park; Le. keep the stream channel wider, don't re-
establish all the trails on the east side. He also speculated that perhaps some of the
slides in the upper park may have contributed to taking out some of the bridges in the
lower park.
Michael G. said that he used the park a lot and wanted the trail on the east side rebuilt
in some form but that he did not believe it would be necessary to replace all the bridges.
He also said that a park is not a wilderness. He is also an avid user of wilderness and
felt if someone wanted a wilderness experience they should go to the wilderness. Lithia
Park was created. He said .that the experience of walking the east side trail was very
different than that of walking the west side; that he didn't necessarily want everything
replaced the way it was, but wanted enough replaced so that the exPerience walking the
east side would not be lost. He expressed concern that the widened creek channel would
not be ecologically sound during summer months when the water flow has decreased
substantially.
Mike Parker (Tolman Creek Rd.) said that he was a fIsh biologist and that the only place
within the park which does look somewhat natural at this time is that widened portion of
the creek. He said that this summer the side channels would warm up some but over
time, when the riparian vegetation grows back, water temperature should not be a
problem. He said that the structures in the channel in the lower park currently prevent
fIsh from reaching th{upper stream anyway. He said that he has used Ashland Creek in
fIsheries class studies and when doing so has used it to demonstrate what is un-natural
about the channel, such as the rip-rapping. He said that he felt that some access to the
east side of the creek would be appropriate but felt it should be as minimally intrusive as
possible.
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Susan Powell expressed her opinion that Ashland Creek as it flowed through the park
was more a "water feature" for the .park rather than a natural waterway. She said that
there is very little similarity betWeen a truly natural creek and Ashland Creek. She said
that it will always be part of a managed watershed. She said she supported a healthy
ecology to the stream but felt that to have it totally "natural" was not realistic.
Scott Kurtz (Liberty St.). said that he loved .the east. side of the park and thought it
looked great now. He said he would want a trail all along that side, but did not believe
that we need as many bridges as we previously had. As to the front lawn area, he said
that he felt that it would be okay not to replant the front lawn prior to "tourist" season if
the engineering study which the City is undertaking is not yet far enough along to plant
this spring. He recommended interpretive signs for the tourists and to hold off planting
until fall. Indicating that he believed that the Commissioners were "stewards of the
stream channel", he expressed concern for some of the work done by City contractors
on upper Granite Street which appears to have damaged the stream channel.
Several other persons also spoke who re-iterated ideas and comments previously stated;
primarily, that Commissioners should take time in making decisions regarding the stream
channel, the east slope and east side trail using whatever technical resources. available to
them prior to making those decisions so that old problems aren't recreated, that the
"new, wilder look" to the east side wasn't all bad and in many respects was more
aesthetically pleasing and provided better access to the stream channel, that having a trail
on the east side was important to people who wanted a less urban park experience but
that it may not be necessary to have the path as wide as it was in the past,. and, .fInally,
that some of the foot bridges should be replaced to provide access to the east side but
not necessarily all the bridges. People encouraged the Commission to work closely with
the City on the overall picture, to remember that "the flood will happen again", to try to
work with the natural forces as demonstrated by the flood, and to plan for the future.
B. Kari Tuck - Partners for Wildlife
Kari Tuck reported to the Commission on a visit from Maureen Sullivan, Project Officer
for U.S. Fish and Wildlife, regarding the $9,500 grant for the natural area development
of N. Mountain Park. She said that Ms. Sullivan had indicated that although most of
Fish and Wildlife's projects were more focused on floodplain restoration that she was
excited about the project in that it was in a public park and would receive a lot of
visibility. Ms. Sulliv~ had also expressed concern however that the planning process
was still in a conceptUal phase and wanted to have a clearer understanding within the
next six months as to how the monies would be used.
In discussion with Commissioners, Director Mickelsen indicated that he foresaw no
diffIculty in supplying Ms. Sullivan with the kind of information she needed within the
. next six months.
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C. Open Forum
A young woman named Tammi was present in the audience with her fIanCe who
addressed the Commission about the fee charged to reserve a place for a wedding in
Lithia Park. She said that she felt that a fee of $200 was not reasonable. She felt that
to charge local residents for use of their own park was not appropriate.
In discussion, Commissioners and staff briefly reviewed the reservation policy and the
fee amount which have been in effect for several years. By consensus, Commissioners
chose not to change its- policy or waive the fee in this particular circumstance.
Having completed the Public Participation portion of the agenda, Chair Coppedge
returned to New Business.
NEW BUSINESS - continued
E. 1997 - 98 Deoartment Bud2et
Director Mickelsen revieWed a fmal draft of budget worksheets which had been prepared
following several Study Sessions in which the Commission discussed the various funds
under its jurisdiction. He pointed out a few' changes which had been made after the last
Study Session Clue to new information received from the City Finance Department. He
indicated that as the City budget process moves along, some of the fIgures may change
due to new infofmation on b~lot Measure 47.
MOTION Following discussion, Commissioner Bennett made a motion to recommend the budgets
as presented to the City Council and Budget Committee for approval. Commissioner
Alsing seconded.
The vote was: 5 yes - 0 no
VIII. COMMUNlCA nONS and STAFF REPORTS
Director Mickelsen reported that this weekend would 'be the last of operation for the ice
rink this year; ,
IX. ITEMS FROM COMMISSIONERS
None
X. UPCOMING MEETING DA TE(S) and PROPOSED AGENDA ITEMS
The next Regular Meeting was set for Monday, March 17, 1997. The report from the
Ashland Gun Club wOuld be placed on that agenda.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
With no further business, Chair Coppedge adjourned
the meeting.
R):J r:L-
Ann Benedict, Business Manager
Ashland Parks and Recreation Department