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CITY OF ASHLAND
PARKS AND RECREATION COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
MINUTES
July 25, 1994
Chair Alsing called the meeting to order at 7 :00 p.m. at the
department office, 340 S. Pioneer Street.
ATTENDANCE:
Present
Absent
Pat Adams, Al Alsing, Teri Coppedge, Laurie MacGraw, Bob
Malone, Ken Mickelsen, Councillor Hauck.
None
I. ADDITIONS OR DELETIONS TO THE AGENDA
Commissioner MacGraw added a request by Master Swimmers to use the Meyer Pool
under Old Business.
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Regular Meeting - June 27. 1994
Commissioner Adams made a motion to approve the minutes of the Regular Meeting
of June 27, 1994 as written. Commissioner MacGraw seconded.
The vote was: 5 yes - 0 no
III. BILLS AND FINANCES
A. Approval of previous month's disbursements
Commissioner Coppedge made a motion to approve the previous month's
disbursements as indicated by Payables checks #9343 through #9503 in the amount of
$108,933.44 and Payroll checks #7226 through #7326 in the amount of $39,085.90.
Commissioner Adams seconded.
The vote was: 5 yes - 0 no
IV. AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION ON THE AGENDA
A. Larry Roven- petition regarding dogs in parks
Mr. Roven read a copy of a citizen's advisory petition which requested that the park
ordin8.]J.ce related to dogs in parks be revised to model other city ordinances related to
dogs. He said that he had personally collected approximately 200 signatures and that
there were other forms still out. He gave the Commission a copy of the petition form
but said that he was saving the actual petition for the Council. He would bring the
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Commission a copy of the petition with signatures if it wanted one. He inform~d the
Commission of statistics related to the number of dogs and families which owned
dogs in Ashland. He said that because a sizable percentage of households in Ashland
have dogs and because dogs have always been considered "man's best friend" that to
prohibit dogs from parks was like saying to many households that you can't come to
Ashland's parks with your best friend. He felt that the least the Commission could
do would be to find a small place in one park where people could take their dogs.
At the end of Mr. Roven's presentation, Chair Alsing asked the Commissioners if
they would like to make any comments. F or clarification, Commissioner Malone
indicated that he'had understood that the Commission would be hearing Mr. Roven's
petition at this meeting but that the Commission was not expected to take any
specific action. Chair Alsing responded that the Commission could take some action
if it chose to but that no action was required. Commissioner Adams indicated that
since the item was on the agenda and that there were obviously people in the
audience who would like to address the topic, that they should be given the
opportunity to be heard. She said that she had felt the topic had already been
reviewed in a previous meeting, however.
Bob Tabor (l08 5th Street) said that he had great interest in Mr. Roven's proposal.
He also indicated that he was not a dog owner and had a great fondness for Lithia
Park. He was concerned about parks but he was also concerned about man's
tendency to "disassociate itself from other forms of life." F or that reason he'
supported Mr. Roven's proposal as a step to re-associate with another form of life.
He requested that the Commission consider a balance somewhere and look at the
proposal as a viable proposal.
Jim Shute (1347 Prospect) indicated that he was surprised that the topic had come up
for discussion again. He thought it had been resolved at a previous meeting. He
again strongly opposed allowing dogs into parks. He felt that the existing ordinance
should be enforced more strongly. He said if Mr. Roven's petition was going to be
given serious consideration, if the number of signatures on a petition would decide an
issue, to give him the opportunity to circulate a petition in favor of the existing
ordinance prior to changing it. He said he and many others did not want to have to
worry about the behavior of other peoples dogs while enjoying the parks, "dogs and
people just don't get along."
Russ Silbiger (562 Ray Lane) said that it was news to him that "dogs and people just
don't get along." He said that he felt the Commission could set aside a couple of
acres for dogs, many households in Ashland have dogs and there is no place for them
to run free. He said dog owners are taxpayers too.
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Sandy Fletcher (609 Terrace) said that she was a dog owner but was did not believe
that dogs should be allowed in city parks. She said that there are still many beautiful
places, such as the Loop Road or around S. Pioneer Street, where people could walk
with their dogs in open, forested areas. She said that many dogs don't get along with
other dogs. She liked the system the way it is. She was opposed to any area in
which dogs would be allowed to run free because of wildlife and for liability reasons.
Deborah (264 Walker) said that some parks such as Clay Street Park was not heavily
used by people at all and that she felt that setting aside a portion of a park such as
that would be appropriate. She was not in favor of allowing dogs in Lithia Park.
She also said that people take their dogs "all the time" to Hunter Park and to ball
games and the ordinance is not enforced. She suggested changing the ordinance so
that if dogs were under control they could be taken to some parks. She asked the
Commission to come up with a solution whereby dog owners could take their dogs
somewhere without being in violation of the law. She said that she was just looking
for some place in her own town to be able to enjoy her dog.
Lvnn Thompson (505 Maple Way) said that she has become very frustrated by a lot
of the rules which Ashland is adopting. She said that "everyplace" allows dogs in
parks and that a park system should be a big back yard for everyone in the
community to enjoy. She said that Ashland as a town has started alienating its
residents in favor of tourism and keeping the town pretty. A lo~ of Ashland's rules
seem stupid. She said a lot of people don't want to take their dogs into the forested
areas because of ticks and wild animals.
Commissioner Adams read a letter from Barbara Stout into the record which
supported maintaining the existing ordinance. Ms. Stout related specific instances
when she had personally witnessed dogs behaving in an unsafe manner around other
people because they become excited by all the sights and sounds typical of a public
park. She indicated that although she was a dog owner, she felt that it would be
inappropriate for dogs to be allowed in city parks. Commissioner Adams said that
she supported the existing ordinance because in her experience many dog owners
were not responsible and that many people are frightened by strange dogs. She said
that there are lots of places to take dogs around Ashland and did not believe it would
be workable in parks. She referred to the recent Council action regarding dogs on
the plaza which was taken due to irresponsible owners congregating with their dogs.
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Commissioner MacGraw indicated that she believed that the Ashland area still
provided many trails and open spaces in which dogs can walk and roam with their
owners. Living in Ashland is not like a large city with no access to open areas.
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MOTION
Commissioner MacGraw made a motion to support allowing the existing ordinance
regarding animals in parks to stand. Commissioner Adams seconded.
The vote was: 5 yes - 0 no
v. AUDIENCE PARTICIPATION NOT ON THE AGENDA None
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. Revised policy for Bandshell rentals ·
The Commission reviewed a memorandum from staff recommending a revision to
current policy regarding Bandshell rentals for public gatherings or performances,
particularly regarding sound levels related. Director Mickelsen explained that the
way the curr~nt policy. was written no objective criteria could be used to determine
whether or not a renter was in compliance with the policy. The proposed revised
policy would state objective criteria based on decibel readings. The recommended
maximum level would be 75 dB; City Band registers at 70 - 75 dB. Commissioners
generally discussed current policy for Bandshell rentals regarding frequency of usage
and length of rentals as well as loudness from performances.
MOTION Commissioner Malone made a motion to adopt the following policy: That no person
shall make, continue, cause, or permit to continue any noise, the source of which is
from an event approved by the Commission for the Bandshell which exceeds 75 dB
when monitored from a point directly across from the Bandshell on the park side of
Granite Street and when using a sound meter approved by the Commission for more
than five (5) continuous minutes or for more than fifteen (15) cumulative minutes
during a rental period. The maximum length of time for amplified sound or
performance at the Bandshell is one and one-half (I 1/2) hours per rental and will
cease no later than 8:15 p.m. Commissioner Adams seconded.
The vote was: 5 yes - 0 no
MOTION
B. Lease with AsWand Gun Club
Having reviewed the revised lease with the AsWand Gun Club for lease of the Lithia
Springs site, Commissioner Adams made a motion to authorize the Chair to sign the
lease. Commissioner MacGraw seconded.
The vote was: 5 yes - 0 no
MOTION
C. . Youth Activities Levy Contract
Having reviewed the contract agreement between the Ashland School District and the
Commission related to the Youth Activities Levy, Commissioner MacGraw made a
motion authorizing the Chair to sign the contract. Commissioner Coppedge seconded.
The vote was: 5 yes- 0 no
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D. Review of Articles on Parks Foundation
Commissioner Malone said that he generally supported the concept of creating a
foundation but inquired as to what kinds of things a foundation could do that the
Commission could not do on its own, what were the advantages to creating a
foundation? Commissioner Alsing responded that he believed that a foundation could
focus its energy on fund raising without having to address all t~ other policy related
issues on which Corpmissioners must spend time. Commissioners generally had no
difficulty with the articles as drafted by the City Attorney.
MOTION Commissioner Malone made a motion to proceed in creating a foundation for parks
along the guidelines set forth in the draft of articles. Commissioner Adams seconded.
The vote was: 5 yes - 0 no
Commissioners Alsing and Malone volunteered to continue to work with the City
Attorney to continue the process.
. E. Masters Swim Program
Commissioner MacGraw reported that she had been contacted by the Masters Swim
Program which requested that the program be allowed to use the Meyer Pool for the
period of time which the sasc po~l will be closed prior to the fall quarter,
approximately mid-August to mid-September. Director Mickelsen indicated that the
Masters had used the pool similarly for several years, that the department provided .
one guard and that heat for the pool would be provided by the solar system only~
Master Swimmers would pay the same rate as lap swimmers. By consensus,
Commissioners authorized use of the pool along the guidelines presented.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Dedication of Park Land
Commissioners reviewed a memorandum related to the dedication of the Brevik and
Superior properties commonly referred to as the Siskiyou Mt. park site. Director
Mickelsen indicated that the two year process of clean-up of the property had been
completed by the City. It has been the understanding between Commission and City
that once the clean-up was complete, that the land would be dedicated for park
purposes.
MOTION Commissioner Coppedge made to motion to request that the City Council dedicate the
property commonly referred to as the Siskiyou Mt. Park site as park property.
Commissioner Malone seconded.
The vote was: 5 yes - 0 no
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B. Land Acquisition
Director Mickelsen reported that he had been contacted by a resident of the hospital
concerning a parcel of land which might be available and suitable for a neighborhood
park. The property is approximately one acre in size and located at the end of Scenic
Drive off Maple Street. When the Open Space/Park Land Acquisition map was being
developed, no property in the hospital area was' able to be identified for a possible
neighborhood park. Director Mickelsen inquired as to whether or not the
Commission would like to look into acquiring this parcel. It is currently zoned R-2
but there appears to be no plans for development at this time. By consensus,
Commissioners authorized the Director to contact the property owner to make an
initial inquiry. .
Commissioner Coppedge mentioned a very small piece of property at the comer of
Coolidge and,N. Main which could make a stopover point for walkers and bicyclers
· on their way into town. After brief discussion, Commissioners concurred that pricing
the property would be appropriate but that it would probably not be of high priority
considering other obligations.
Commissioners Alsing, Coppedge and Malone volunteered to work with the Director
on the Falk view-shed property. The possibility of cooperating with the Forest
Commission on the hiring of a timber cruiser was discussed to assist in determining
the fair market value for the property.
VIII. CORRESPONDENCE, COMMUNICATIONS, DIRECTOR'S REPORT
Director Mickelsen reported that the public inquiry form concerning the community
portion of the Youth Activities Levy was scheduled for the September utility newsletter.
He also indicated that he had contacted Y outhworks which is the agency that oversees the
Ashland Teen Center to express the Commission's interest in working with them on
determining future programming needs.
Commissioners reviewed a staff memorandum outlining recommendations for water
curtailment related to maintenance procedures and modifying irrigation. Director
Mickelsen reported that the outlined cutbacks would save better than 30% in water
consumption. In discussion, one of the recommendations was to drain the Perozzi
Fountain because of the volume of water required to maintain it. Commissioners
authorized staff to follow the measures as outlined but to put off draining the Perozzi if at
all possible.
Director Mickelsen reported that a member of the Tayler Foundation board had inquired
about the possibility of converting irrigation in Lithia Park to T.LD. He said that the
Tayler Foundation might be interested in funding a conversion if it proved feasible. After
brief discussion, the Commission authorized staff to hire an irrigation consultant to assist
staff in determining the feasibility and associated costs.
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IX. ITEMS FROM COMMISSIONERS
Commissioner Coppedge, indicated that she would very much like to see bicycle racks
placed at the department office and at the Meyer Pool entrance.
MOTION
Commissioner Malone made a motion to extend the temporary rule related to noise in
parks which was adopted at the July 18, 1994 meeting to the end of August.
Commissioner Adams seconded.
The vote was: 5 yes - 0 no
X. NEXT MONTH'S AGENDA
The next Regular Meeting was scheduled for
Tuesday, August 30, 1994 at 7:00 p.m.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
With no further business, Chair Alsing adjourned the
meeting.
Respectfully submitted,
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Ann Benedict, Business Manager
Ashland Parks and Recreation Department
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