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Minutes
May 5, 2004
Community Development/Engineering Services Building- 51 Winburn Way-Siskiyou Room
Historic Commissioners Present: Keith Swink, Tom Giordano (left at 9:20), Alex Krach, Joanne
Krippaehne, Rob Saladoff, Terry Skibby, Sam Whitford, and Jay Leighton (who arrived at 8:50 and left at
9:15).
Absent Members: Dale Shostrom
Council Liaison: John Morrison (absent)
High School Liaison: None Appointed
SOU Liaison: None Appointed
Staff Present: Associate Planner Mark Knox and Secretary Sonja Akerman
CALL TO ORDER
At 7:05 p.m., Vice Chair Skibby called the meeting to order.
COMMISSION TRAINING
This has been postponed until the June 2 meeting.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Whitford moved to approve the April 7, 2004 minutes as submitted. With a second by Saladoff, the motion was
approved with all voting aye.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
Planning Action 2004-018
Site Review
322 Pioneer Street
Al and Sandra Carlson
All members had site visits; none had ex parte Contacts.
Knox explained that although this application had been advertised as a public: headng, it was heard informally
last month due to issues that Staff had on parking. As a result, the application was delayed one month so the
issues coUld be worked out. The most recently submitted design consists of a 1,130 square foot addition that
has no upper story and no deck; instead, it has a clerestory on top that has the potential to eventually
accommodate a full second story. The commercial storefront includes three sections that can either be
entrances or windows. Knox stated Staff would like to see at least one of these areas recessed more. Parking
will be around the perimeter of the lot on Oak and "A" Streets and three off-street parking spaces will be provided
off "A" Street at the rear of the property. Staff is supporting this application with Histodc Commission
recommendations incorporated into the Findings.
Gary Capema, 2908 Hillcrest Ddve in Medford, stated he represents the desiign team for Batzer, Inc. for this
project. He then explained the changes made since the last Histodc Commission meeting. The addition now
consists of three equal volumes. Each of the bays is one large volume. These volumes give the proposed
addition an appropriate presence on "A" Street. By eliminating the upper story apartment, the parking
requirements fit with the proposal. Skibby asked about the extedor lighting and Capema replied the light will be
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behind a narrow fiat steel sheet and will project downward. He added the color scheme of the building will be
subdued; the CMU block will be a dark oak color. He then explained the three entry sections will be recessed
24 inches and the canopy extends four feet, so there will be a six foot protected entry. Capema explained he
wanted to design the building with longevity in mind, thus the potential for three separate openings. It will be built,
however, with only one opening at the beginning. The canopy will be continuous. The middle portion of the
alcoves can be either doors or windows; the rhythm would remain the same. The bronze anodized windows in
the clerestory will be non-operable and are the same as used in the existing building and the "A" Street
Marketplace across the street. He clarified the ceilings will be 16 feet high and the addition will be built to
accommodate a second floor in the future. The CMU block is 8" x 16" and the grout will be the same color. The
base of the building will be fluted, and then the building will go into common bond on split face block. On top,
the cornice will be smooth block.
Knox stated he would like to see at least one of the alcoves (middle would be best) further recessed to help
clarify the main entry. The door(s) will open onto the sidewalk and pedestrians walking by would have to be
careful.
As there was no one in the audience who wanted to speak, Skibby closed the public hearing.
Whitford stated he feels Knox's point about recessing the center bay is important for the look of the building and
for safety issues. Kdppaehne and Saladoff both stated it would be difficult to identify the main entry, as it could
eventually change. Giordano remarked the flexibility would be taken away if one entry were to be designated
now. Ideally, all three bays would be recessed at least three feet. Knox responded the space is actually quite
small and the middle bay is the most likely one to be the main entry. The addition will likely accommodate only
one or two businesses. Giordano stated he would like to recommend all three be recessed.
Capema offered to set up the retum walls in the entdes (alcoves) so if the space is used for a window, it can be
forward and if used for a doorway, it could be recessed more. This would still allow for flexibility of the use. He
would comply with a condition of approval stating doors would need to be recessed and windows could remain
with a 24-inch setback. In discussing this further, Capema and owner Al Carlson, agreed to recess all three
alcoves, noting more square footage could be added in the rear to make up for the loss of space. The
Commission concurred this wouh:! be the best solution.
Giordano moved to recommend approval of this application with the condition all three openings on "A' Street
be recessed a minimum of three feet. Krippaehne seconded the motion and it passed with a unanimous vote.
Planning Action 2004-049
Conditional Use Permitrrransfl.~r of Ownership
115 North Main Street
Jessica and Bruce Capp
All members had site visits; none had ex parte contacts.
Knox explained this application iis for a Transfer of Ownership for a previously approved Bed & Breakfast.
Although there are rarely complaints, he clarified this process gives neighbors a chance to voice concems when
a traveler's' accommodation changes ownerShip. There are no intedor or exterior changes proposed.
There was no one in the audience who wished to speak regarding this application.
Whitford moved to recommend approval of this application and Swink seconded the motion, which passed with
a unanimous vote.
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Planning Action 2004-043
Conditional Use Permit
530 Catalina Drive
Dr. William Rodden
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All members had site visits; none had ex parte contacts, although Skibby stated that while he was taking pictures
of the property, a neighbor offered his personal opposition to the proposed u:se because of the deer.
Knox reported this application is for the construction of a temporary parking lot across from Ashland Community
Hospital. The lot is currently vacant and would provide parking for the owner's patients and staff dudng the
remodel of the Catalina Medical Building and upgrading of the existing parking lot. (Dr. Rodden owns both
properties.) Knox explained a Conditional Use Permit is required because a parking lot should not be the
predominant feature on a street. The proposal is to use the temporary lot for a two-year period, at which time
the use will be reevaluated. The lot will be gravel with 16 spaces, a locked (,;late and perimeter landscaping,
which will incorporate a bioswale at the rear of the property to capture and retain storm water runoff prior to
pumping the excess water with a sump pump up to Catalina Ddve. In addition, Knox related the existing tree is
proposed to be saved while the property is a parking lot, but will most likely be removed when the lot .is
developed in the future. Staff is supportive of this temporary two-year use.
Designer Mark Reitinger (385 Vista Street), representing the applicant, .,stated this is a straightforward
application. The property is zoned Health Care. He referred to the letter from Dr. Fded opposing the use and
stated there is no real cdteda for setting up a temporary parking lot so there is no clear criteria. After he received
a copy of the letter, Reitinger submitted a letter to the Planning Department mitigating most all the points in the
letter that could be contentious. The dust will be alleviated with the use of a biodegradable solution that will
provide a temporary coating to the lot throughout the summer months, then would dissipate in the winter. He said
they are hoping the bioswale and sump pump will take care of most of the drainage problems, since historically,
the property drains downslope to the rear. Reitinger acknowledged there probably could be nothing that will
alleviate the glare from windshields; however, landscaping the perimeter will help. Kdppaehne questioned the
parking configuration being in such close proximity to the tree and Reitinger responded that while the site plan
shows parking tight against the tree, it will most likely be reconfigured to keep cars away from the drip edge of
the tree. They may lose a couple parking spaces. He added that landscaping is only required against residential
properties bordering parking lots. Although adjacent properties to the north and south are not residences, these
borders will also be landscaped.
Krach asked if Reitinger had talked with Dr. Fded and he responded he had not talked with her but had
addressed her concems. Krach then questioned what the eventual use of the property would be. Reitinger said
Dr. Rodden owns both pieces of property and may decide to build another medical office or he may decide to
sell the proposed parking lot property. Rodden does not want to limit any future use of the vacant property. His
intent is to use the temporary lot while construction is taking place on his existing office and parking lot. Reitinger
also noted the hospital currently has major construction taking place and parking spaces' are at a premium in
the area.
Skibby asked about the temporary fill at the rear of the property. Reitinger said he suspects that that area would
be filled no matter what the future use will be. Swink asked who would most likely use the lot and Reitinger
replied half of the first year would be used mainly by staff for the Catalina Medical Building. When the existing
parking lot is being brought up to current standards, the temporary lot would likely be used for valet parking
because most of Dr. Rodden~s patients are geriatric.
When asked by Saladoff if the Catalina entrance is the only access to the lot, Reitinger responded it is. Saladoff
said the bottom three spaces will be difficult to use and Reitinger agreed, stating they will probably lose them
in the reconfiguration. He added there is an .existing curb cut that will be used, but staff may require it be moved
when the lot is developed in the future because of its neamess to Dr. Fded's property.
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Krippaehne wondered why the applicant is making such an effort to save the tree when probably in two years,
a tree permit will be submitted to remove it for development. She stated the tree has not been maintained and
looks like a mess. She could understand the efforts if it was a good specimen and didn't impede the
development of the property.
Skibby closed the public headng ,as there was no one who wished to speak.
Skibby stated there was a similar application a few years ago for the lot on the comer of Catalina and Maple pdor
to the construction of the now existing medical building. He sees the same process in the development of this
property and commented a building on the site will impact both the lot and the tree. It is inevitable.
Krippaehne stated she personally feels it would be beneficial to make the most efficient use of the property and
that includes mitigating for the possible loss of the tree.
Krippaehne then moved to recommend approval of this application with the recommendation that IF the tree
presents an impediment to the most effective use of the temporary parking lot, the Historic Commission supports
its removal and if that is the case, that the removal of the tree be mitigated elsewhere. Giordano seconded the
motion and it passed with a unanimous vote.
OLD BUSINESS
Review Board - Following is the May schedule for the Review Board, which meets every Thursday from 3:00
to at least 3:30 p.m. in the Planning Department:
May 6th
May 13th
May 20th
May 27th
Skibby and Giordano
Skibby, Kdppaehne and Swink
Skibby, Whitford and Krach
Skibby, Swink and Saladoff
Project Assignments for Planninq Actions
PA #2000-120 485 "A" Street (Steve Hoxmeier) Shostrom
PA #2002-100 142 East Main Street (Earthly Goods) Leighton
PA #2003-005 35 S. Second Street (Winchester Inn) Kdppaehne
PA #2003-092 124 Alida Street (Kirt Meyer and Vadim Agakhanov) Krippaehne
PA #2004-017 364 Hargadine Street (Ken Kolar) Krach
PA #2004-026 81 Central Avenue (Wes & Lucinda Vail) Giordano
PA #2004-018 322 Pioneer Street (Al & Sandra Cadson) Swink
PA #2004-043 246 Catalina Ddve (Dr. William Rodden) Krach
Articles for City Source - Krach volunteered to write an article about historic preservation.
National Histodc Preservation Week - Knox encouraged all members to attend the award ceremony on Fdday.
He also pointed out there would be three more walking tours - Thursday, Fdday and Saturday.
Possible National Reqister Nomination for Lithia Spdn.qs Property - The tour that was held on April 22nd was
discussed, as well as the Parks Commission decision to study the Gun Club proposal and impacts the lease
renewal would have on the site. Skibby stated one of the Parks Commissioners is still under the impression the.
Lithia Springs Property is listed as "surplus" and could be sold. He requested that someone notify the Parks
Commission that it has been removed from the surplus list.
Carnegie Library Restoration - Tlhere was nothing new to report.
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ITEMS NOT ON AGENDA
Krippaehne related she had two items to discuss with the Commission. The Conservation Commission (of
which she is also a member) quarterly sponsors educational events. Looking ahead to next winter, she would
like the Historic Commission to co-sponsor a workshop on how to build storm windows for historic windows.
She feels this is a good topic to mesh the interests of the two commissions. North Mountain Park Nature
Center hosts these events and also advertises them in the newsletter. The Historic Commission agreed this
is a good idea and is willing to be a co-sponsor.
Kdppaehne stated she lives on Terrace Street, which is on a ddge where there are old orchards. There are
still small historic farmhouses standing but they are in jeopardy. A house dating back to 1865 just sold on
the street and there are several other lots for sale in the vicinity. She wondered if there are ways the Histodc
Commission could appeal to the buyers to save these homes. The pressure for people to have large homes
threatens the existence of the small histodc houses with demolition or abuse because the buyers are paying
a huge amount of money for the property. Giordano stated both he and .Shostrom are on the Demolition
Board and they carefully scrutinize these applications. Krippaehne said that to her, it seems too easy to meet
the economic justification cdteda in order to receive approval for demolition. Knox said the applicant needs
to prove it would cost more to tear down a house and construct a similar one (including size) than to
renovate it. The Demolition Board tdes hard to look at the preservation of buildings as the most viable option,
but he agreed that histodc houses outside the Historic Districts are in jeopardy. He suggested the significant
historic homes be documented as eligible for National Register status. Kdppaehne commented there ought
to be a way to do some outreach to educate the purchasers of these properties on the value of historic
homes. She would like the Histodc Commission to brainstorm ways to accomplish this without relying on
more regulations, but appealing to their interest.
(Leighton ardved at this time.)
Giordano stated owners would need to be notified prior to the sale of histodc homes, but it would be tough
to convince them. Kdppaehne asked about the process of creating a list of structures outside the District.
Knox responded someone would be hired to go through the City's resources; however, Council approval
would be required first.
Krippaehne moved for development of a memo to the City Council to request authorization for a multiple
listing survey to place structures outside the existing four historic districts on the National Register of Historic
Places. Krach seconded the motion with the stipulation the memo be reviewed by the Commission pdor to
submitting it to the Council. The motion passed with a unanimous vote.
Leighton announced she would like to see the Historic Commission mcmbers at the Oregon Heritage
Conference and encouraged them to attend. She noted daily fees were $2:0 for Thursday and $25 each for
Friday and Saturday. She also stated she had a limited number of free passes to Governor Kulongoski's
speech. (She left at 9:15 p.m.)
Designer Bill Emerson presented proposed plans for an addition to the Unitarian Church on Fourth Street.
Giordano stated he is working with Emerson on this project and felt it would be inappropriate for him to
participate, therefore, he left the meeting at.9:20 p.m. Emerson stated the, existing church will remain as it
is, including the pinkish vertical block. The existing basement portion with a one-story shed will be removed
on the north side of the building and replaced with a larger addition. He showed elevations of the proposed
addition from all sides.
Krippaehne said that while the design is a competent one that is a traditional style, she personally thinks it
would be a mistake to add something that is reminiscent of a house. She would like to get away from
imagining the past because it doesn't reflect the culture of our time and it robs the building of meaning. She
does not feel new buildings should be made to look old. Whitford stated th~at while he doesn't always agree
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with Kdppaehne, he does with this. He doesn't think the addition is in harmony with the existing church and
said he feels the two should be more similar.
Emerson said his intention is to have both buildings look separate, even though they will be connected. He
also noted he used elements of modern architecture in the design. Saladoff remarked this is not just about
the style. There is a hierarchy of what is the use and what is needed in the neighborhood. The features on
the proposed addition are residential in nature and the design fits into the neighborhood. Other options would
be to match the existing building that was constructed in the 1960s or to make the design more
contemporary. Whitford commented there are two churches that come to his mind. The historic Trinity
Episcopal Church has a recent addition that matches the existing church. The Methodist Church on North
Main Street has a separate building in the back that is a completely different style. They don't match, but they
harmonize.
Skibby related he likes the proposed design. Swink and Krach said they could go either way with the design.
Krippaehne pointed out she is not advocating mimicry with the new addition, rather a more contemporary
design. Krach added this is a tough site and a tough call. He advised Emerson to gather the opinions of the
Historic Commission members and then go with his heart, as he doesn't feel the members will see eye-to-
eye on this project. Saladoff invited Emerson to come to the Review Board no matter which way the design
goes.
Saladoff presented preliminary plans for his own house, which will be located at 150 Church Street. He
stated the house is proposed to be larger than the maximum house size by 10% so it will be coming back
to the Commission as a planning action. Before he goes further with the design, however, he requested input
from the Commission. Saladoff said he thought it was important to design the house to fit the street as well
as the needs of his family.
(At 10:00, Krippaehne moved and Swink seconded to extend the meeting until 10:15. The motion passed with
a unanimous vote.)
In discussing the design, the Commission felt Saladoff should basically proceed with his proposed design.
ADJOURNMENT
With a motion by Krippaehne and second by Whitford, it was the unanimous decision of the Commission to
adjourn the meeting at 10:15 p.m.
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